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Besides, our Government should remove the luxury tax on all EV's. Regardless of price.
This is a good point, batteries and new cars models will of course cost more up front. Even raising it by 50% would let non-plaid models sneak under.

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The CT is a utility vehicle, in my case I want to use it for towing. There is nothing luxury about that.

Give me a cheaper EV alternative to tow over 4 tons. There isn't.


Besides, our Government should remove the luxury tax on all EV's. Regardless of price.
I'm not buying it as a utility vehicle.

I just want it as my regular vehicle - I wonder if that's a waste.. I've never owned a truck before so it may be difficult to manage but when I hear Elon say it's there best product ever I figure why not go for it?

I theorise if it is too much for me after a year I can always trade it in for a M3 or MY.

I also figured that it will be much easier to handle a truck of that size with FSD when CT finally arrives as FSD may be able to do all, if not most of the driving/parking!
 

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I also figured that it will be much easier to handle a truck of that size with FSD when CT finally arrives as FSD may be able to do all, if not most of the driving/parking!
Trucks are big, and clumsy. Sure, the Cybertruck will be nimble and quick, but it will still be big and have limits on how it handles that a Model 3, Y, or whatever won't.

It's a utility vehicle. And it'll be great at that. At being a regular vehicle.

But that's why I have a reservation for an Aptera, too.

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I'm not buying it as a utility vehicle.

I just want it as my regular vehicle - I wonder if that's a waste.
It's not more of a waste than all the huge trucks that people drive as vanity vehicles while spewing black smoke on purpose. Will it use more electricity than a M3 or MY? Sure. But as more renewables come on line, the wastefulness issue will become less of a big deal.

Enjoy your truck without guilt. Have fun driving it. If you end up deciding on changing to a M3 or MY that is good too. Your CT will surely end up at a loving home where it will live on for many years to come. And you will have had a fun experience that you can tell others about. Perhaps they will decide to buy a CT too.
 

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It's not more of a waste than all the huge trucks that people drive as vanity vehicles while spewing black smoke on purpose...
My son-in-law in his Plaid is now getting even for his wife, who always got smoked by these rolling coal with her Tesla S. ? She can't with baby on board.
 


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I didn't post it at the time, but I was very interested in the price increase discussion so I made up a spreadsheet to do my estimates. I know there was no "reveal" price for the Quad, but there were some reasonable speculations after Elon mentioned it.

CYBERTRUCK PRICESMY ESTIMATED PRICE RANGE
REVEALLOWHIGH
CT 1 RWD$39,900.00$45,990.00$51,990.00
CT 2 AWD$49,900.00$56,990.00$64,990.00
CT 3 AWD$69,900.00$79,990.00$90,990.00
CT 4 AWD$89,900.00$103,990.00$116,990.00

There is a fair bit of analysis behind these estimates, including inflation and Tesla price changes.
If you're interested in the spreadsheet... bit.ly/3Ekvkmj
 

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I also did some speculation on the possible motor options. People have said that the Single motor variant isn't going to be made, but I think there may be a couple other interesting options that haven't been announced.

CT Motor Options
frontrear
CT 1 RWDSMT†revealed
CT 2 AWDSMT*SMT†revealed - could be "long range"
CT 2 RWDDM†seems an odd configuration but could be good for towing
CT 3 AWDSMT*DM†revealed
CT 3 PlaidSMT‡DM‡not announced but possible
CT 4 4X4DM*DM†announced
CT 4 4X4 PlaidDM‡DM‡pure speculation

SMT = single motor w/ transaxle
DM = dual motor
*Induction (efficiency)
†IPM-SynRM (power)
‡IPM-SynRM Plaid (speed)

Requires 6 different motor designs:
SMT IND, SMT IPM, SMT PLD, DM IND, DM IPM, DM PLD
(Tesla is already making all of these.)
 

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I didn't post it at the time, but I was very interested in the price increase discussion so I made up a spreadsheet to do my estimates. I know there was no "reveal" price for the Quad, but there were some reasonable speculations after Elon mentioned it.

CYBERTRUCK PRICESMY ESTIMATED PRICE RANGE
REVEALLOWHIGH
CT 1 RWD$39,900.00$45,990.00$51,990.00
CT 2 AWD$49,900.00$56,990.00$64,990.00
CT 3 AWD$69,900.00$79,990.00$90,990.00
CT 4 AWD$89,900.00$103,990.00$116,990.00

There is a fair bit of analysis behind these estimates, including inflation and Tesla price changes.
If you're interested in the spreadsheet... bit.ly/3Ekvkmj
I think the biggest problem with any of these estimates is not knowing what the final models will be.

If there is a dual motor short range truck instead of a single motor, where does that slot in. Likewise if they ditch the tri motor do they just have a $40k gap to Quad?
 

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australia will not see cybertruck for at least 1-2 years to start based on track record with model 3 and model Y.
But i think by that time the prices will come closer to 80c in the dollar for the aud/usd rate,
Yea, my best case scenario was mid 24.. but now I think 2 years after launch at the earliest.. Mid 25 for Australia.

By mid 25, we should be over recession. Amazing how quickly things can recover.. my forecast has the US at 1.4

Below I have my 'ready reckoner' ..for fun, its close enough. Copied and pasted some price points. Other Aussie can get an idea :

Threshold$ 84,916
(LCT value - LCT threshold) x 10/11 x 33/100 = LCT amount
Estimated US Price$ 50,000
AU Converted1.4$ 70,000
GST$ 7,000
Sub T$ 77,000
Luxury Car Tax$ -
AU Price$ 77,000
Estimated US Price$ 60,000
AU Converted1.4$ 84,000
GST$ 8,400
Sub T$ 92,400
Luxury Car Tax$ 2,245
AU Price$ 94,645
Estimated US Price$ 70,000
AU Converted1.4$ 98,000
GST$ 9,800
Sub T$ 107,800
Luxury Car Tax$ 6,865
AU Price$ 114,665
Estimated US Price$ 80,000
AU Converted1.4$ 112,000
GST$ 11,200
Sub T$ 123,200
Luxury Car Tax$ 11,485
AU Price$ 134,685
Estimated US Price$ 90,000
AU Converted1.4$ 126,000
GST$ 12,600
Sub T$ 138,600
Luxury Car Tax$ 16,105
AU Price$ 154,705
Estimated US Price$ 100,000
AU Converted1.4$ 140,000
GST$ 14,000
Sub T$ 154,000
Luxury Car Tax$ 20,725
AU Price$ 174,725
 


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Why would there be a 15% to 30% increase in price for a one-year delay when that year's inflation was less than 7%?

-Crissa
I agree and hope that even my low estimates are too high.

On the CT order page, below the deposit, it used to say, "Fully refundable. You will be able to complete your configuration as production nears in late 2021. Tri Motor AWD production is expected to begin in late 2022." So, yeah, it's (hopefully) only about a one-year delay.

Tesla had to have been factoring in a couple of years' inflation in their pricing, so we shouldn't add any from 2020 or 2021. The bls.gov CPI Inflation Calculator says that there has been 7.75% inflation in the last 12 months, so that could be a reasonable starting point.

However, much of my increase was based on Tesla's actual price increases on all of their cars, but, again, I did start the clock right at Nov. 19, 2019. Averaging that out to a one-year figure brings it down to 13%.

Thank you for the feedback.:)
 

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You also have to recall that price increases for Tesla cars only affect buyers receiving their cars weeks and months (and in some cases) years later, because those already in line do not pay the increases. Their price is locked in when they got in line.

Tesla didn't promise us that, but... they've almost always kept it even when they didn't promise it.

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When I ordered in Mid 2020, the price was not advertised, only the FSD price was.

And to make things worse for me and probably many others, maybe we would want to change from Tri to Quad and therefore there would be no previous commitment to a price.


There is hope, at least then we could order it.
Maybe it's the date of the order which secures honoring a discount, regardless of changing to a new model type.
 
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I agree and hope that even my low estimates are too high.

On the CT order page, below the deposit, it used to say, "Fully refundable. You will be able to complete your configuration as production nears in late 2021. Tri Motor AWD production is expected to begin in late 2022." So, yeah, it's (hopefully) only about a one-year delay.

Tesla had to have been factoring in a couple of years' inflation in their pricing, so we shouldn't add any from 2020 or 2021. The bls.gov CPI Inflation Calculator says that there has been 7.75% inflation in the last 12 months, so that could be a reasonable starting point.

However, much of my increase was based on Tesla's actual price increases on all of their cars, but, again, I did start the clock right at Nov. 19, 2019. Averaging that out to a one-year figure brings it down to 13%.

Thank you for the feedback.:)
Where do we all stand now that prices are dropping back to original pricing for M3 and MY pretty much worldwide?

Are we thinking now that CT could fall back to original the promised pricing or if not should we at least be perhaps further reigned in now that large inflationary price hikes we were factoring in are coming to a slow. There are also bad economic woes on the horizon which could impact demand further incentivising tesla to keep their price promise.
 

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When I ordered in Mid 2020, the price was not advertised, only the FSD price was.

And to make things worse for me and probably many others, maybe we would want to change from Tri to Quad and therefore there would be no previous commitment to a price.


There is hope, at least then we could order it.
Maybe it's the date of the order which secures honoring a discount, regardless of changing to a new model type.
If I were you, I'd think long and hard before agreeing to a significant price change just to get a Quad-Motor CyberTruck. I reserved my Tri-Motor with FSD the night of the reveal because I want an electric truck that will tow a 5th wheel RV. I could justify buying a truck with a <3 second 0-60 only because I need the range and towing capability of the most expensive model. I was happy that I wouldn't have the regret I've felt often from my SR+ Model 3 that doesn't have AWD, track mode, and M3P levels of acceleration. I DO NOT need those things, could not have justified paying for them, but my caveman brain WANTED things I didn't need purely for chest thumping, show off reasons.

When Elon mentioned the Quad-Motor I once again decided I could justify whatever price he put on it because I needed the maximum towing capacity I could get, but when the Tesla Semi came out, with over 40,000 lbs of towing ability, WITH ONLY 3 MOTORS, I had to admit that Quad-Motor is a silly idea. If 3 motors in a semi tractor can get more weight moving than any pick-up truck chassis could ever bring to a halt, I had to admit there is no way to justify four (or frankly, even three) motors. The only change I will consider that would forfeit my $7000 locked in FSD cost would be downgrading to the Dual-Motor if it'd tow ~16,000 lbs and the cost savings made full priced FSD still cheaper.

Folks are going to chime in to extol the virtues of torque vectoring, superior cornering, and tank turns that four motors would provide, but for a work truck, or an RV tow vehicle, or anyone who isn't planning on making a living from their race winnings, these things are unnecessary. I'm going to take the ~$10,000+ that I saved by not getting tempted into superfluous features and sink that money instead into an even nicer RV... Or a Cyber-Quad and the on-board drone Elon hinted at.

Oh lord... there I go again. ?
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