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Cybertruck specific hatred. Why?

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Be careful with that. When you actually need a horn for any reason while driving, you won’t have it.
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Nothing to do with hypocrisy. You can’t protest people who destroyed countries multiple decades ago. But you can protest a CEO of a company who had made himself the forefront of the destruction going on here and now.
 

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Reactions I have received in the 9 mo since getting my CT have been overwhelmingly positive (only 1 finger and 2 thumbs down) more smiles, waves, V signs, thumbs up and parking lot inquiries than I could keep track of. That said, if/when I get another negative I have decided to do as you suggested, I.e., smile, thumbs up, wave. But I’m waiting for a chance ?.
 


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Not sure if you want an honest discussion, given that you used the label “liberal” already without even knowing me.
I do care about government bloat, and about bureaucratic corruption. Both in particular about the military complex and the financial industry.
I do not agree with the random approach of destruction that is currently taking place. In particular if things are done clearly outside establised legal rules.

Do you care about following the law, and the separation of powers in this country? Rules the same for everyone?
 

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You do realize that the majority of the protests are not against the actions taken as CEO of the company, but against his extracurricular activities. Elon, the very outspoken and visible CEO of a major automaker made himself also a very outspoken and visible person in the activities of the current admin. It is the same person, he cannot have it both ways. And since the CT was/is hyped as a car/truck as the CEO pet project, and has a very visible presence, it attracts the protesters.
I personally don’t care about fingers or birds, I basically agree with the protesters, they only target the wrong audience. Also I get very, very few of those. Not sure what others do or where, that attracts all that “hate”, but I don’t see it. But non violent protests at Tesla stores? Why not?
 
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Let me start by saying I see eye to eye with you on most of your points but I think to call these non-violent protests is sort of like calling January 6th a casual congregation of supporters going for a walk to a national monument.
While it’s true that only a few people in either group probably really crossed certain lines, that’s how bell curves and crowds work.
Not a particularly impartial journalistic source (if there is such a thing, they are all propaganda), but Forbes wrote a timeline of anti-Tesla events that worry me just as much as the right wing rallies in Virginia did a few years ago.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/conorm...nounces-charges-against-sixth-alleged-vandal/
The division and feverish commitment to a political view on both sides that has consumed this country is the real enemy. Not the “other side”.
The problem is that it frequently serves a political interest to avoid squelching the friction and allow these brush fires to escalate.
This is also true in both directions. There are self interested politicians everywhere.
At the end of the day, we’re all Americans who love our country, we just have different views on what’s best for it.
I think if we try to remember that the other party is interested in the same thing we are; the success of our nation, it’s easier to forgive and find common ground.
Great negotiation which is what really needs to happen here at every level of society is more about asking why than what. This is because there are often different whats that can satisfy both parties that they just don’t know how to ask for.
The great irony here is that there are a host of leaders on both sides constantly patting themselves on the back for being great negotiators when the objective facts seem to suggest they all suck at it.
So I say, start small. Find the person with the most different view to you at your job, at a local bar, at your kids preschool, whatever, and try to understand why they think the way they do.
Don’t try to make them understand why you think the way that you do. Listen first. Truly listen.
Enough people do that and the America we clearly all love changes for the better.

when I read back on that, it definitely sounds a little preachy. Wasn’t intended as such. It’s just how I feel.
 
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So as the owners of both a Cybertruck and a model x, my wife and I both have a hard time understanding the difference in interactions we have with others when driving the two vehicles.
There is clearly more antagonism towards the truck than the model x.
Anyone care to offer an explanation for why this is?
It’s obviously not the “I can’t afford it” thing because both cars are similarly priced.
I think both are clearly associated with Elon and in fact more people have had time to form this association with other Teslas than the trucks.
So what is it about the Cybertruck specifically that rubs people the wrong way?
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But you can protest a CEO of a company who had made himself the forefront of the destruction going on here and now.
In whose reality is the destruction of waste, fraud and abuse a bad thing?

The bureaucracy has taken decades to grow into its current bloated and grotesque form. Only a heavy hand can fix something so monstrous and irretractable. We are lucky that someone with Elon's experience and tenacity is willing to help for free.
 

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In whose reality is the destruction of waste, fraud and abuse a bad thing?

The bureaucracy has taken decades to grow into its current bloated and grotesque form. Only a heavy hand can fix something so monstrous and irretractable. We are lucky that someone with Elon's experience and tenacity is willing to help for free.
This is your opinion, and you are entitled to it.

Others might see it differently. They might agree with the premise, but not with Elon methods. Or they agree with some of it, but not all, very often depending on what they themselves need from the government. And others while agreeing that there is some level of bloat, they disagree with the severeness of “waste, fraud and abuse”.

What we all agree on, I hope, is that any action should follow the current laws, and that ignoring judges is not something that should be part of any methods followed.

But I think we are way off from the OP question why specifically the CT is a target. So I leave it here.
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