Cybertruck VINs

[CyberGus]

A vehicle's VIN serves as a serial number, but is also encoded with other information.

All Teslas start with "5YJ", followed by 5 digits for model/type/class. The 10th and 11th digits are the Year and Location. Year 2022 is "N", and the Austin gigafactory will be "A".

Obviously, the Year digit gets recycled over time, and the Location digit is specific to the manufacturer.

The only new car I've ever purchased was a Mazda Miata, whose VIN digits included "N" for 1992, and "A" for their primary plant (Hiroshima). So if I get a 2022 Cybertruck, it will also have the NA digits.

Here's hoping for serendipity.

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[Ogre]

A vehicle's VIN serves as a serial number, but is also encoded with other information.

All Teslas start with "5YJ", followed by 5 digits for model/type/class. The 10th and 11th digits are the Year and Location. Year 2022 is "N", and the Austin gigafactory will be "A".

Obviously, the Year digit gets recycled over time, and the Location digit is specific to the manufacturer.

The only new car I've ever purchased was a Mazda Miata, whose VIN digits included "N" for 1992, and "A" for their primary plant (Hiroshima). So if I get a 2022 Cybertruck, it will also have the NA digits.

Here's hoping for serendipity.

So based on the above, 5YJC XXXXXXX seems likely for us.

 

[CyberGus]

So based on the above, 5YJC XXXXXXX seems likely for us.

Yeah, the "C for Cybertruck" seems most likely.

 

[Throwcomputer]

It would seem that decoder posted would suggest that each factory would get their own initial 3 digit code. If 5YJ = Fremont, LRW = Shanghai, XP7 = Berlin.. I would think Austin VIN is unknown at this time.

 

[CyberGus]

It would seem that decoder posted would suggest that each factory would get their own initial 3 digit code. If 5YJ = Fremont, LRW = Shanghai, XP7 = Berlin.. I would think Austin VIN is unknown at this time.

The new Worldwide Manufacturer Identifier "7SA" for 2022 Teslas is specifically for models X and Y, which Tesla refers to as "MPV"s. Looks like they are separating the SUV/crossover types from the passenger vehicles.

https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/decoder/Manufacturer/Details/955

 

[CyberGus]

Tesla updates VIN manufacturer code to 7SA for Model X/Y
https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/tesla-updates-vin-manufacturer-code-7sa-model-x-y/

After sticking with the same ‘5YJ’ VIN manufacturer code since it started producing the Model S in 2012, Teslahas updated its code for the 2022 model year.
But only for some of their vehicles.
Until now, all vehicles produced at Fremont had a VIN that started with the ‘5YJ’. As of November 1 2021, that code only applies to the Model S and Model 3.
The Model X and Model Y now have their own manufacturer code – ‘7SA’.
The new codes were revealed in documents posted to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) website this week.
Along with the updated manufacturer code, the document also revealed an update to digit 11, used to indicate the ‘Plant of Manufacture’.
Once Tesla cars start rolling off the production line at Giga Texas, they will have a code of ‘A’, while Fremont cars will retain ‘F’.
You can read the full 2022 Model Year VIN Decoder document from the NHTSA below.

 

[Bill906]

First three characters are assigned by SAE and are called the World Manufacturer Identifier (WMI). The first digit is region. If the first digit is a 1, 4 or 5 the vehicle was manufactured in the US.

I suspect (but do not know) that because Austin is in the US the WMI might stay 5JY.

GM uses the 3rd digit to identify the brand. 1G1 = Chevrolet cars. 1G2 = Pontiac cars. 1G3 = Chevrolet Trucks etc. So Tesla could choose to use a different WMI for Austin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_identification_number

Edit: Looks like others posted similar information just before I did. Also, according to the above wiki page VIN's starting with 7 are manufactured in New Zealand. Hmmmmm.

 

[CyberGus]

Edit: Looks like others posted similar information just before I did. Also, according to the above wiki page VIN's starting with 7 are manufactured in New Zealand. Hmmmmm.

The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from.

 

[TyPope]

It would seem that decoder posted would suggest that each factory would get their own initial 3 digit code. If 5YJ = Fremont, LRW = Shanghai, XP7 = Berlin.. I would think Austin VIN is unknown at this time.

Ty's VIN guess
5YJ means Tesla of America based in Fremont, CA. You are correct that that part could be unique as Tesla has relocated but I think the first 3 digits will remain 5YJ because Tesla is still Tesla. They are incorporated differently in Berlin and China (funny how we naturally use a city for the Germany plant and the country of the China plant). Anyway, Here's my bet.
1-3) 5YJ -USA Tesla
4) C - Cybertruck
5) I - weight class (this should be the next consecutive letter from the Model Y
6) C - Manual seatbelts with airbags
7) E - fuel type
8) M or N - M for 2 electric motors, N for 4 (should be next letters from last model Y performance letter
9) # Check digit
10) P - year (N=2022, P=2023)
11) A - Plant of origin A=Austin?
12) 17 445000 - sequence #
Hopefully, mine will read something like
5YJCICEN923A135850

It'll be interesting to see how close I got.
That's my 2¢.

 

[flowerlandfilms]

I've been to the Mazda Hiroshima plant.
Cool factory, but the tour guide was very un-enthused.

 

[John K]

(Maxwell Smart) Would you believe… I received my VIN number?(/Maxwell Smart)


”Missed being humorous by… that much”

 

[Bill906]

Ty's VIN guess
5YJ means Tesla of America based in Fremont, CA. You are correct that that part could be unique as Tesla has relocated but I think the first 3 digits will remain 5YJ because Tesla is still Tesla. They are incorporated differently in Berlin and China (funny how we naturally use a city for the Germany plant and the country of the China plant). Anyway, Here's my bet.
1-3) 5YJ -USA Tesla
4) C - Cybertruck
5) I - weight class (this should be the next consecutive letter from the Model Y
6) C - Manual seatbelts with airbags
7) E - fuel type
8) M or N - M for 2 electric motors, N for 4 (should be next letters from last model Y performance letter
9) # Check digit
10) P - year (N=2022, P=2023)
11) A - Plant of origin A=Austin?
12) 17 445000 - sequence #
Hopefully, mine will read something like
5YJCICEN923A135850

It'll be interesting to see how close I got.
That's my 2¢.

Good guess. Three things:

• Tesla has already started using a different WMI (first three letters) in the US. Starting in 2022 passenger cars (Model S and 3) will continue to use 5YJ while Multi Passenger vehicles (MPV's) (Model X and Y) will use 7SA. Will the CT fall under passenger car, MPV or will they create a third? My guess, they'll create a third.
• I"m pretty sure VIN's don't use the letter "I" along with the letters "O" and "Q".
• You are assuming there will only be two motor variants. (2 and 4). Although there's many people on this forum that have jumped to that conclusion we don't know that yet. With the information we currently have I'd list all 4 options. (Single, Dual, Tri and Quad). We have been told (at different times) that each would exist. We have assumed but were never told any were removed.

 

[TyPope]

Good guess. Three things:

• Tesla has already started using a different WMI (first three letters) in the US. Starting in 2022 passenger cars (Model S and 3) will continue to use 5YJ while Multi Passenger vehicles (MPV's) (Model X and Y) will use 7SA. Will the CT fall under passenger car, MPV or will they create a third? My guess, they'll create a third.
• I"m pretty sure VIN's don't use the letter "I" along with the letters "O" and "Q".
• You are assuming there will only be two motor variants. (2 and 4). Although there's many people on this forum that have jumped to that conclusion we don't know that yet. With the information we currently have I'd list all 4 options. (Single, Dual, Tri and Quad). We have been told (at different times) that each would exist. We have assumed but were never told any were removed.

The first letter is area of origin. 5 is US, 7 is Oceana according to SAE. I didn't realize manufacturers had more than on Worldwide Manufacturer Identification.
Cool that you knew that. I'll bet they don't produce a single motor variant anytime soon, if ever. I know he says they will but at a rate of just 250,000 a year being their goal, it wouldn't make sense for them to produce versions that make less profit when there is a wait list years long (5-6 years right now).

You made me go back and look at my Model Y vin. (My wife's car) and I just realized that although we ordered her LR on, are you ready for this accidentally ironic date?, 4/20, we got it 2 months later. I still don't know how we managed that (the VIN is lower than 11,500. I don't know how but I hope that luck works on my Cybertruck!

Thanks for keeping me honest, Crissa!

 

[Crissa]

Thanks for keeping me honest, Crissa!

We all have to try! I really underestimated you guys' ability to tear apart all these numbers and tease out their meanings before we even have any shipped examples ^-^

-Crissa

PS And I think you're right with that low of run rate. And last year they sold more Model 3 than were pre-orders. There's kinda endless demand.

 

[TyPope]

We all have to try! I really underestimated you guys' ability to tear apart all these numbers and tease out their meanings before we even have any shipped examples ^-^

-Crissa

PS And I think you're right with that low of run rate. And last year they sold more Model 3 than were pre-orders. There's kinda endless demand.

Precisely. I would bet there will be at least 250,000 new buyers per year wanting the 4 motor version, especially if it is the longest range option. There won't be a need for a cheaper version other than for all the articles that have that "Starting at $39,900" tagline.

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