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I kind of wonder where I stand with my order. I had to go with the tri motor as I have a 10000 lbs travel trailer and it's the only CT version that can handle it.

Right now I run a 2018 F150 with the 3.6L EcoBoost. Towing capacity of around 13000 lbs.

MSRP for the Ford I bought was $66000 Canadian. This pails in comparison to the approximate $100000 I expect to invest on the CT. But if the Tesla can go 12 years, no fuel and less maintenance bills then I hope to come out on top. In addition I am banking on better resale should I want a change before my self imposed truck lifespan.

Has anyone done the math using the tri motor yet? I know it's all speculation at the moment but that's why we're here, for the fun. :)





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Bonsoir ozweego, many months ago, I calculated the save of $3,000 cad per year from fuel; also, maintenance costs very loo, if it is like model 3, nothing needed before 2 years to check brakes which are not really used because of the reginator...one million km warranty against rust, about the same for batteries lifetime; updates of the software by tesla regularly. As our weather is cold... we need more range... batteries capacity reduced during winter... and, I took the full self driving as we get old...that's why I choose 3 motors ...
 

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Thanks. I figure if I can theoretically save $4000 per year (fuel, maintenance,etc) and get 8 years of use out of it ($32,000 in potential savings) then the math seems to work out. The remaining difference in cost between the two could be made up in resale value, assuming I can get $20-$25K for an 8 year old CT tri motor.
 

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It won’t be an apples to apples comparison until the electric F150 EV specs and pricing are revealed. But I think it will be even more of a landslide win for the Cybertruck compared to an ICE F150. Ford currently doesn’t have the battery/software technology to match a comparable Tesla vehicle, nor can it compete on battery price. What the EV F150 will have going for it is pickup owners’ fierce brand loyalty and fact that Ford still has full federal rebates available, though that may be gone or reduced by the time the electric F150 hits the market.
 

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IIRC Tesla said the CT will be a medium duty vehicle classification comparable to an F-250. I know the chart is from early in the process, but I expect by the time the CT ships it will cost more but will still compare very favorably to a comparably equipped ford F-250.
I disagree. It is designed to compete against the F150. It has such great specs it can compete against an F250.

To truly compete against an F250, it must pull goose neck and fifth-wheel trailers. In my opinion it will also need to go 400-500 miles pulling a full load. It will take Cybertruck HD (Heavy Duty) to be competitive.
 

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I think there is a good chance Cybertruck will last 2x longer than a similar gas or diesel. The trimotor is a beast as well, so you get more truck vs anything you can compare it too .. and you have to give it some value for that. My math shows a savings in fuel and operating at over $50,000 USD over 300,000 miles .. and no one will be surprised if it lasts even longer.
 

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in Québec as we pay around $0.06 KWH
Jesus, I pay $0.29 for off peak and the CT still works out to cheaper than my F350 at ~22,500 miles a year.
 

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I disagree. It is designed to compete against the F150. It has such great specs it can compete against an F250.

To truly compete against an F250, it must pull goose neck and fifth-wheel trailers. In my opinion it will also need to go 400-500 miles pulling a full load. It will take Cybertruck HD (Heavy Duty) to be competitive.
Yes, to fully compete against the F-250 the Cybertruck would need to pull goose neck and fifth-wheel trailers and also go 400-500 miles pulling a full load.

But Cybertruck doesn't have to completely compete against every single F-250 use case.

There are a lot of F-250s that do not use goose neck or fifth-wheel trailers.

There are a lot of F-250s that tow 9,000-14,000 lbs ball hitch trailers for only max. 200 miles non-stop.
Cybertruck cabin + frunk + bed total payload 3,500 lbs. for maybe max. 300-400 miles non-stop.
This is stuff too big for F-150s.
 

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Jesus, I pay $0.29 for off peak and the CT still works out to cheaper than my F350 at ~22,500 miles a year.
Presently, Hydro-Québec provides 70% of electricity for Vermont, and there are agreements for Mass. (Boston) and Maine and N-Y (with de Blasio) the line will pass under Champlain lake and Hudson river... and the selling cost is around $0.05 Kw... to your local company... As Hydro-Québec belongs to our government... the benefit will help to pay our Health insurance... which is free...!!!
 

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I disagree. It is designed to compete against the F150. It has such great specs it can compete against an F250.
For those who don't follow pickup truck marketing events closely, Nissan tried to carve out a niche for their truck in between the F-150 and F-250 with the Nissan Titan XD:
https://www.caranddriver.com/nissan/titan-xd

Slotting a truck into this niche strikes me as a good idea. But I haven't exactly seen a lot of Nissan Titan XDs on the road, so it doesn't seem to have differentiated Nissan's offering on its own.
 

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For those who don't follow pickup truck marketing events closely, Nissan tried to carve out a niche for their truck in between the F-150 and F-250 with the Nissan Titan XD:
https://www.caranddriver.com/nissan/titan-xd

Slotting a truck into this niche strikes me as a good idea. But I haven't exactly seen a lot of Nissan Titan XDs on the road, so it doesn't seem to have differentiated Nissan's offering on its own.
Nissan Titan seems a little expensive for ICE. Cybertruck 4WD dual motor is good deal.

There will be very little room in that niche after the 500,000 Cybertrucks enter the market.
 

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