Does anyone know when... the 20k worth of software for Foundation series will be uploaded to Cybertruck?

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💯 agree German car manufacturers are not known for great software but they are known for great hardware and engineering. It would be amazing if we can blend the best of both sides to deliver a balanced product with excellent engineering, craftmanship, usability, and software instead of letting the end customers like us wait in line for Tesla to release features that have already been purchased.
Well, people have been waiting for software from those Germand companies, too.

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Delays are not normal. Delays can be unexpected but if they exist, it means the project was not correctly efforted to begin the development process. There are known knowns, known unknowns, and unknown unknowns with the last being the most troublesome type. As of the last few years, especially with FSD development, it has felt like Tesla has been experiencing numerous unknown unknowns without proper anticipation.

While I understand your point, I respectfully disagree. These issues exist because Tesla is run like a software company where MVP (minimum viable product) is a common baseline for product releases in software engineering. However while Tesla’s vehicles have a large portion that runs on software, they are ultimately still pieces of hardware. German manufacturers spend a great amount of time on craftsmanship and do not rely on over the air updates to release features. Yes, Germans manufacturers have their own set of problems and I think both traditional and new age vehicle manufacturers can learn a lot from each other.

IMO, features that are marketed as part of a product needs to be released with the baseline MVP of the same product. Any future iterations can be done with over the air updates. But we should not rely on OTA updates to “release” features that have been sold and marketed.
Isn't Volkswagen a German company? It seems as if they have been having similar issues.

With production ramp up, you have two options, estimate your timeframes conservatively, being able to meet your timelines with 100% accuracy or be a little aggressive and come pretty close to hitting your timelines.
The only problem with hitting your timelines 100%, if you are early, you have to store your product, not recognizing revenue and not satisfying customers. But at least the customer is happy that they are getting it on the promised date!

I'm pretty sure that EVERYONE here would much rather get it 9 months earlier with some flex in the dates than for first vehicles getting delivered in September, guaranteed.


Delays are not actually a good description of what is happening, it's unexpected situations that are impacting the schedule.
  • Did Tesla anticipate that the employees on a production line would go against the specifications of assembly to make putting the accelerator together easier? No.
  • Did Tesla anticipate Covid during the design phase, No.

They actually hit the delivery that I anticipated back in December when I ordered within a few weeks.
I was an early order Model 3. I knew that for it, employees and California came first and that my Model 3 delivery was a little about 9 months from start of production for someone who stood in line the first day or orders.
So I expected that a Jan-Mar delivery was probably actually going to be closer to the end of the period and probably past it.

This all gets resolved and put behind you with one event, the delivery of your Cybertruck, at which you will then have the answer to the question that you will get multiple times, "When did you order it?"
 
 




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