Elon: "I was just reviewing the production beta Cybertruck. It is incredible."

[HaulingAss]

I personally have a Reservation and happen to like the look of the CT, I just find it hilarious when some die hards melt when anything negative is said about the CT. unimaginable ignorance is put on full display.

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[TyPope]

The CT has an incredibly interesting and innovative design. For someone with who appreciates the modernist design aesthetic, it is awesome.

Some people will look at iconic architecture like the Rothko Chapel or the Guggenheim or the Eames house and say they are stark and ugly while others will appreciate the beauty in the clean lines. Some will prefer the busy, ostentatious gilded age architecture.

Ram/GM/Ford are producing gilded age trucks with shiny-plush-busy-bling everywhere you look inside the cabin. Franz is pushing a modernist design. It will not be to everyone's taste.

Very true. However, I am of the mind that it is possible to not not find things ugly just because I don't like them.



Except the Pontiac Aztek...


And that new BMW 7 series with the grill larger than a small horse... I mean, look at it.

I mean, WTF?

 

[firsttruck]

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Now, a side effect that you may think is a downgrade, is the loss of time travel. Personally, I'm not so ready to surf the resulting alternate timelines so this seems like a net positive in my book. But your mileage may vary.

Yup, with Cybertruck you don't have to worry about making a little mistake in a past timeline and removing yourself from ever existing. Some might think never existing is probably just a minor inconvenience.

 

[Ogre]

It’s called “Truckholm Syndrome”. People have spent 15 years justifying to their spouse and friends that they butt ugly truck is awesome that they’ve fooled themselves into believing it.

Cybertruck will be normalized within 3 years of launch. They will be boring and un-noteworthy within 5 years. Some people will still hate them, but it will no longer be this big “controversy”.

 

[BayouCityBob]

Very true. However, I am of the mind that it is possible to not not find things ugly just because I don't like them.



Except the Pontiac Aztek...


And that new BMW 7 series with the grill larger than a small horse... I mean, look at it.

I mean, WTF?

If you were a beaver you would think that 7 series grill is one sexy beast...

 

[KHappe]

I started out not really liking the exterior of the CT. But the features it had won me over. Air suspension. Big roomy cabin. Covered bed. Not having to worry about scratching the paint.
Price comparing to M3 and MY was awesome. Built-in AC outlet. (Great for running the equipment at baseball practice.) Good price on the FSD. ( Hope they honor it)
And overall I thought it would be a great road car. It would make traveling around Texas a lot more comfortable.

 

[Diehard]

Just curious what accessories you have bought for your Lightning, and what modifications you have done, since taking delivery?

I am guessing you are asking this so you can say you don't have to do any of that with CT but you asked so I will answer: Nothing serious. I got the bare bone trim so I had to add running boards to make my short wife happy (that is my excuse but I need it more than she does). I had to get floor mats, bull ring retractable bed tie down. Bed Cleats Box Link tie downs all of which would fit earlier models with a lot of options to chose from. I can use my Thule adjustable racks off my old truck for my kayaks (not on for winter).

I have done no mods but you can see on Lightning Forum what people are doing. I am not sure if they could or would feel comfortable messing with CT as much. Parts seem very accessible on this truck without needing many special tools. My point is if you take a Lightning to a body shop or a gas station to do some basic work done, there is less of a chance they freak out than if you take a CT to a non Tesla shop. This is not an issue for most people especially those that don't keep their vehicles past warranty or take it to the boons away from civilization and I am not trying to convince any of them to think differently. It is just that having options has value for me personally.

Please don't turn this into a Tesla Rocks and Ford sucks rant. I don't have any special attachment to neither. I wrote a response because you asked a question. I am here because I am hoping CT's advantages and value (for me) will justify a trade. By then, there will be a lot of owner reviews of CT and I have a better feel for EV life. There is a chance Lightning may convince me that both of them are too big for me.

 

[firsttruck]

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Please don't turn this into a Tesla Rocks and Ford sucks rant.
.....

OK, I won't say "Tesla Rocks and Ford sucks".

But a
500mi range, super low drag aerodynamic shaped front, dynamically lowering air suspension, 3mm cold-rolled dent-resistant scratch-resistant stainless steel exterior, armor glass windowed, low drag aerodynamic shaped powered tonneau covered 6ft bed, 3,500lb payload, 6-seater EV truck would ROCK
and a
250mi range, huge barn shaped aero dragging front, static non-lowering non-air suspension, eggshell fragile thin painted aluminum exterior, low payload, aero dragging backside of barn 5.5ft bed, 5-seater EV truck would SUCK.

Hardly any difference at all (sarcasm warning).

 

[charliemagpie]

One has evolved from the Model T, and the other from a vision about Mars.

 

[Ogre]

OK, I won't say "Tesla Rocks and Ford sucks".

But a
500mi range, super low drag aerodynamic shaped front, dynamically lowering air suspension, 3mm cold-rolled dent-resistant scratch-resistant stainless steel exterior, armor glass windowed, low drag aerodynamic shaped powered tonneau covered 6ft bed, 3,500lb payload, 6-seater EV truck would ROCK
and a
250mi range, huge barn shaped aero dragging front, static non-lowering non-air suspension, eggshell fragile thin painted aluminum exterior, low payload, aero dragging backside of barn 5.5ft bed, 5-seater EV truck would SUCK.

Hardly any difference at all (sarcasm warning).

I can assure you after reading a million posts about the latest “Tesla Killer” coming out “Later this year”, it’s a lot easier for an unreleased car to stomp the pants off of an actual existing vehicle.

Cybertruck range right now is 0 miles. Its cargo capacity is 0 pounds.

We can wait 6-9 months until these are actually under customers butts to make comparisons. Until then, the Lightning wins every lap.

Of course this is a marathon not a sprint.

 

[Diehard]

I can assure you after reading a million posts about the latest “Tesla Killer” coming out “Later this year”, it’s a lot easier for an unreleased car to stomp the pants off of an actual existing vehicle.

Cybertruck range right now is 0 miles. Its cargo capacity is 0 pounds.

We can wait 6-9 months until these are actually under customers butts to make comparisons. Until then, the Lightning wins every lap.

Of course this is a marathon not a sprint.

My choices were $110K Hummer, $80K Rivian and a $40K Lightning which Ford could get it to me earlier than the other two. I never thought I would ever be driving a Ford but so far, I am pretty happy with it. I wouldn't feel as comfortable traveling with it as I would with a 350 mile CT but as long as we have an ICE in the driveway for that 5% use, it works.

 

[Ogre]

My choices were $110K Hummer, $80K Rivian and a $40K Lightning which Ford could get it to me earlier than the other two. I never thought I would ever be driving a Ford but so far, I am pretty happy with it. I wouldn't feel as comfortable traveling with it as I would with a 350 mile CT but as long as we have an ICE in the driveway for that 5% use, it works.

As long as your good with the range seems like an ok deal. Particularly if you have a long wait for the Cybertruck.

Unrelated… Ford had a horrible 4th quarter. Absolutely slaughtered.

 

[Sirfun]

My choices were $110K Hummer, $80K Rivian and a $40K Lightning which Ford could get it to me earlier than the other two. I never thought I would ever be driving a Ford but so far, I am pretty happy with it. I wouldn't feel as comfortable traveling with it as I would with a 350 mile CT but as long as we have an ICE in the driveway for that 5% use, it works.

I think you did just fine. Not included in your choices was a Ford ICE truck which sucks way more than the Lightning! Enjoy your new toy!

 

[Diehard]

As long as your good with the range seems like an ok deal. Particularly if you have a long wait for the Cybertruck.

Unrelated… Ford had a horrible 4th quarter. Absolutely slaughtered.

700K spot on CT line.

Hybrid companies like Ford use their shrinking ICE money to kickstart an EV business that is bound to be inefficient initially. Interest rates and inflation are no help. It must be rough with low margins in both segments. Stock is clawing it’s way back up. The only car company stock I ever bought and sold was Rivian. I must be one of the few people that actually made money on it (not much). I also must be one of the few people that missed the boat on TSLA (several times).

 

[Ogre]

700K spot on CT line.

Hybrid companies like Ford use their shrinking ICE money to kickstart an EV business that is bound to be inefficient initially. Interest rates and inflation are no help. It must be rough with low margins in both segments. Stock is clawing it’s way back up. The only car company stock I ever bought and sold was Rivian. I must be one of the few people that actually made money on it (not much). I also must be one of the few people that missed the boat on TSLA (several times).

Yeah, if you managed to snag that $43k intro deal def a nice spot to be in.

Sounds like maybe you’ll be driving this around for 3 more years and might be able to get decent resale out the Ford if you decide to get your Cybertruck. (If… I’m betting when)

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