FSD Feature needed: Avoid jail with location-specific limits

[Nephilim]

In Virginia, you may find yourself on a highway with a posted speed limit of 70MPH. If you were pulled over while traveling a mere 11 mph over, you might think this is probably not a big deal. Little did you know, you crossed the magic 80mph threshold, and regardless of what the speed limit was, you are now a "criminal" who may be spending some time in jail for reckless driving.

In Virginia reckless driving is not a traffic citation, it’s a criminal charge, and a Class One misdemeanor at that. That means it’s the highest level of misdemeanor you can be charged with in Virginia, right below a felony. The maximum penalty for a reckless driving conviction is a $2,500 fine, a six month driver’s license suspension, and up to a year in jail.

They really do jail people for this! Example:
https://jalopnik.com/never-speed-in-virginia-lessons-from-my-three-days-in-1613604053

I happen to know this because I live in VA, but I'm sure other states have similar random gotcha laws. It would be great if FSD could be programmed with some hard limits to keep the drivers out of jail in states with stupid laws like this. I realize that laws change all the time, and how is Tesla supposed to track 50 states and every possible county specific law, etc... It does not have to be perfect. This VA law has been on the books for decades, has not changed, and people get really screwed by it all the time.

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[SCTesla]

You can put a cap on your speed. Turn ASSO off.

 

[TickTock]

I agree this would be a great feature. Much more important than location-based suspension settings. It would also allow us to enter the school zones that, for whatever reasons, FSD doesn't recognize.

 

[Nephilim]

You can put a cap on your speed. Turn ASSO off.

A non VA resident would not know to do that. In a neighboring state, 11mph over in a 70 is totally fine.

Also, I live in a tri-state border. In neighboring states they have 75mph highways and people go 85-90 as the speed of traffic. I still want to be able to do that.

 

[SCTesla]

A non VA resident would not know to do that. In a neighboring state, 11mph over in a 70 is totally fine.

Also, I live in a tri-state border. In neighboring states they have 75mph highways and people go 85-90 as the speed of traffic. I still want to be able to do that.

Right. So turn off ASSO, you use the scroll wheel to set your max speed and you can change it at will. That's the purpose of it.

 

[Woodrick]

Many states have the laws, many just don't know about it.

Reinstatement FAQs - Super Speeder | Georgia Department of Driver Services

"a mere 11 mph over the limit" That's also known as 11 mph beyond what is legal.

 

[Stinky10r]

Many states have the laws, many just don't know about it.

Reinstatement FAQs - Super Speeder | Georgia Department of Driver Services

"a mere 11 mph over the limit" That's also known as 11 mph beyond what is legal.

None are as enforced as Virginia. Remember the old $1000 speeding ticket fine?

 

[Nephilim]

Right. So turn off ASSO, you use the scroll wheel to set your max speed and you can change it at will. That's the purpose of it.

Various levels of disablement indeed work. I'd like to be able to fully use the feature, but without randomly landing in jail because of an obscure state law; hence the ask for a feature

 

[SCTesla]

Various levels of disablement indeed work. I'd like to be able to fully use the feature, but without randomly landing in jail because of an obscure state law; hence the ask for a feature

No. You just turn ASSO off in the menu and you will always control the max speed. You don't have to do it each time. That's the current design of FSD.

 

[Cyber_Dav]

posted speed limit of 70MPH. If you were pulled over while traveling a mere 11 mph over, you might think this is probably not a big deal.

What I hear you saying is that you want to break the law with impunity and you think it is unfair that you cannot do so.

Quit whining. Drive intelligently and you will never face this "problem".

 

[M0unt41nm4n]

Or... violate the law in VA by purchasing a hidden radar detector that runs in full stealth such as a Escort Redline 360c, like a lot of folks do and not worry about it Not to mention, the penalty for a radar detector is a fine. Thats a lot better than a criminal conviction for the speed. Just sayin' pick your poison... I would pick the fine.

 

[CyberGus]

Can FSD keep you from coming within 500 feet of a school? Asking for a friend

 

[pricedm]

Various levels of disablement indeed work. I'd like to be able to fully use the feature, but without randomly landing in jail because of an obscure state law; hence the ask for a feature

That is exactly why YOU set the speed limit "offset" in your Tesla. Either +mph or +relative% from the speed law aka limit.

Once you set the speed limit, that oh-so handy right scroll wheel can be used to fine-tune speed, based on your immediate preference.

 

[Crissa]

In Virginia, you may find yourself on a highway with a posted speed limit of 70MPH. If you were pulled over while traveling a mere 11 mph over, you might think this is probably not a big deal. Little did you know, you crossed the magic 80mph threshold, and regardless of what the speed limit was, you are now a "criminal" who may be spending some time in jail for reckless driving.

In Virginia reckless driving is not a traffic citation, it’s a criminal charge, and a Class One misdemeanor at that. That means it’s the highest level of misdemeanor you can be charged with in Virginia, right below a felony. The maximum penalty for a reckless driving conviction is a $2,500 fine, a six month driver’s license suspension, and up to a year in jail.

They really do jail people for this! Example:
https://jalopnik.com/never-speed-in-virginia-lessons-from-my-three-days-in-1613604053

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That law seems ripe for challenge in a court.

-Crissa

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