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FSD is functionally autonomous. Agree?

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No.. Was with family on a major Chicago highway, randomly decides to attempt to take an exit that was not there. Literally 4 lane highway, right turn signal turns on and is attempting to veer off over a solid white line onto the shoulder. Took control after that, but I did rengage FSD, sent report..

So ultimately, not there yet, my eyes will forever be on the road, especially with wife and kids in the car.
14.3.3 was … 14.3.4 is a step back . Always getting phantom breaking and phantom ghost human in the way at low speed in neighborhoods and I always have to take over from FSD.
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A direct quote from the link you posted:

"Exceeding the posted speed limit or traveling in a way that endangers others, regardless of traffic flow, can result in a citation."
A direct quote from the conversation we were having... "you can't go above the posted speed limit".

Now read what you just quoted again and pay attention to the word "can" and compare it to the word "can't"

Ya'll have to start reading and not trying to win a conversation.

I will state it again - "You can go above the posted speed limit when flowing with the traffic - in the state of Illinois"

If anyone is concerned about FSD doing that - then change it to SLOTH mode.

Geesh folks - how hard is this to understand?
 

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Was browsing Etsy and found this:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/449501...-ipad-miniiphone?ref=share_ios_native_control


IMG_4365.webp

Got me wondering how many people feel that FSD is good enough that “supervised” is really only a formality now.
What do you think? Would you be willing to take your eyes completely off the road as it stands now if liability wasn’t a concern? Would you trust your life and your family’s life to it?

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I would have no problem trusting it completely. I can tell you as a 66 year old, it's a way better driver than I am. Much, much faster with reactions, and pays better attention to everything. I have slept in a vehicle while my teenage sons drove. Compared to FSD---You tell me when my life was in danger,. haha
 


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What?

wierd sentences does not a smart one make.
I'm not sure how to respond, because the statement I made "Rapidly evolving systems can't be judged by their past" is self-evident. Does not need explaining.

Having said that, the very nature of rapidly evolving systems causes them to be viewed with unease, denial, hostility, all kinds of emotional responses.

Hello, singularity(s).
 

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....I will state it again - "You can go above the posted speed limit when flowing with the traffic - in the state of Illinois"

If anyone is concerned about FSD doing that - then change it to SLOTH mode.

Geesh folks - how hard is this to understand?
Then you won’t be using it, ever. That’s not coming back.
Just asking the important questions here.

Will FSD slow down when it sees that cop hiding up ahead?
 

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Not yet. Still making mistakes.
1-2 years.
FSD will never be mistake free; but eventually we should hit "5-nines" with 99.99999% safety. Most of the public will never understand this until saturation is very high and fender benders make the news.
 

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A direct quote from the conversation we were having... "you can't go above the posted speed limit".

Now read what you just quoted again and pay attention to the word "can" and compare it to the word "can't"

Ya'll have to start reading and not trying to win a conversation.

I will state it again - "You can go above the posted speed limit when flowing with the traffic - in the state of Illinois"

If anyone is concerned about FSD doing that - then change it to SLOTH mode.

Geesh folks - how hard is this to understand?
Here is the actual law for you in case you can read and understand English : https://www.ilga.gov/documents/legislation/ilcs/documents/062500050K11-601.htm

Try to find an exception to speed limits and highway use rules due to "flow of traffic."
 

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Was browsing Etsy and found this:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/449501...-ipad-miniiphone?ref=share_ios_native_control


IMG_4365.webp

Got me wondering how many people feel that FSD is good enough that “supervised” is really only a formality now.
What do you think? Would you be willing to take your eyes completely off the road as it stands now if liability wasn’t a concern? Would you trust your life and your family’s life to it?

IMG_4366.webp
I’m that guy, while using FSD, watching videos, working, note taking, working

next roadtrip plan to play cards
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