Hardcore FSD CT user's question:

[hemiarch]

There are some things I can do that you can’t though. If they act crazy enough I just tube them for a 24hr ventilator time out. They are usually much nicer on the other side of that when all the stuff they have circulating has metabolized off.
So you’re a night shift guy?

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[ABILISK]

Clearly we don’t love it either. I’d rather get sleep between real traumas than dance around people’s BS in the most politically correct way possible.

Damn, if that line of thought doesn’t hit home… remember when we started these jobs? Just wanting to help people in need? Then minimum 90% of our job ended up being complete BS. Maybe a bit less for you, or I hope so at least. Isn’t surgery your specialty?

 

[ABILISK]

There are some things I can do that you can’t though. If they act crazy enough I just tube them for a 24hr ventilator time out. They are usually much nicer on the other side of that when all the stuff they have circulating has metabolized off.
So you’re a night shift guy?

I wish I could shut them up sometimes but no such luck lol. Yeah, we have the option to switch around but most of my career has been night shift.

 

[hemiarch]

Damn, if that line of thought doesn’t hit home… remember when we started these jobs? Just wanting to help people in need? Then minimum 90% of our job ended up being complete BS. Maybe a bit less for you, or I hope so at least. Isn’t surgery your specialty?

Yeah. Trauma surgery specifically but I do a decent amount of general surgery and critical care.
There is a ton of BS but it pays the bills to keep the service open for real trauma which is what I do this for. At least half my census on any given day is geriatric falls with ortho injuries, head bleeds from anticoagulation and so forth. Then there is a subset of annoying people who are trying to game me for pain meds and a certain percentage of minor injuries that are admitted to me because the ER doc chickens out of discharging them.
Why do I put up with it? Because every once in a while I get some poor sod who was buying gum and got shot in the belly. For that person, time is crucial and if they get anybody even slightly less efficient than me, they will die.
I feel like possessing that skill is a huge responsibility. Not all surgeons can do it. Or do it well at least.
I know this because I get called to some random OR frequently to help control bleeding and that sort of thing and I’m always kind of shocked at how frozen everyone is. They just aren’t used to high acuity high pressure situations the way trauma surgeons are.

 

[hemiarch]

I wish I could shut them up sometimes but no such luck lol. Yeah, we have the option to switch around but most of my career has been night shift.

I’m largely a night shift guy too. Most of the stuff I’m in this game for happens at night but more importantly, I’m a full time dad during the day. No BS.
From my kids perspective, they hardly know I work.

 

[hemiarch]

So, do you think FSD belongs in a patrol car?

 

[ABILISK]

Yeah. Trauma surgery specifically but I do a decent amount of general surgery and critical care.
There is a ton of BS but it pays the bills to keep the service open for real trauma which is what I do this for. At least half my census on any given day is geriatric falls with ortho injuries, head bleeds from anticoagulation and so forth. Then there is a subset of annoying people who are trying to game me for pain meds and a certain percentage of minor injuries that are admitted to me because the ER doc chickens out of discharging them.
Why do I put up with it? Because every once in a while I get some poor sod who was buying gum and got shot in the belly. For that person, time is crucial and if they get anybody even slightly less efficient than me, they will die.
I feel like possessing that skill is a huge responsibility. Not all surgeons can do it. Or do it well at least.
I know this because I get called to some random OR frequently to help control bleeding and that sort of thing and I’m always kind of shocked at how frozen everyone is. They just aren’t used to high acuity high pressure situations the way trauma surgeons are.

I can relate to the importance of a good trauma surgeon. I fractured my femur on New Year’s Eve 2013 going into 2014 after being an idiot on an ATV.

I figured I’d get some sloppy seconds bottom of his class surgeon that night but whatever he did really worked so I’m eternally grateful. Those screws in my knee have since been taken out.

The rod is staying, obviously.

 

[hemiarch]

I can relate to the importance of a good trauma surgeon. I fractured my femur on New Year’s Eve 2013 going into 2014 after being an idiot on an ATV.

I figured I’d get some sloppy seconds bottom of his class surgeon that night but whatever he did really worked so I’m eternally grateful. Those screws in my knee have since been taken out.

The rod is staying, obviously.

Yes obviously.
we CAN rebuild him. We have the technology.
There’s a show that wasn’t even forward looking enough to anticipate inflation.
lol

What does six mil get you now?

 

[ABILISK]

So, do you think FSD belongs in a patrol car?

So we have 3 different levels of response in my department. Code 1 (normal driving), code 3 (lights and sirens, allowed 20 mph over limit and can run red lights), and assist officer (no rules whatsoever - pretty rare. Both fun and terrifying). FSD would be super helpful for code 1 responses, especially for single officer cars. We have a lot of resources, as you can imagine, for looking into the people we’re about to deal with. If I could have unsupervised FSD drive me there while I dive into a suspect’s past arrests and incidents, that would be invaluable to how I respond.

 

[ABILISK]

CT would make a great patrol car. All other models would get pretty cramped after adding a laptop, radio, rifle rack and partition. There was a company called Model PD that outfitted Model Ys as patrol cars at some point, but it seems they’ve gone under. They incorporated a windows desktop onto the Tesla screen and only did a single prisoner partition. That would be the only way to make a Model Y work, and even then it would only be practical for a single officer car for someone without a partner.

 

[pae1andonly]

I’m a cop. The black and white elephant seems to be a target for drunk drivers on night shift. Better me than someone else though!

Explorer elephant? Crown Vic elephant?

 

[ABILISK]

Explorer elephant? Crown Vic elephant?

Explorer (officially the “Police Interceptor Utility” but they’re essentially Explorers) every now and then, but mostly Tahoe PPVs. My department never got Durangos so no experience with those. We still have Charger Pursuit models but they’re rarely used. No Crown Vics anymore. I get a different car everyday and have to load and unload my personal gear each shift.

 

[L3it3R]

Human drivers suck. I almost exclusively use FSD these days.

In 2018 I got rear ended by someone who fell asleep going 70MPH while I was STOPPED in stop and go traffic - ever since that day, I’ve refused to drive anything that didn’t have advanced ADAS systems.

My 5 month old Golf R (the first 2018 mk7.5 R in the states no less) had hacked Audi software on its camera unit. I had done it only a few days prior to the accident. This added advanced traffic aware cruise control and basic lane assist. Aside from really sharp high speed turns, I rarely needed to touch the wheel on the highway.

When I got hit I blacked out because my head hit the steering wheel. The car navigated the maze of vehicles in front of me and to the right of me, and parked itself on the right shoulder. I was struck while in the left most lane. The guy who had been in front of me actually stopped to see if I was ok. The car who hit me, actually rolled into his rear bumper after my car avoided the forward collision. He was shocked to see that there was no front end damage on my golf. He asked how I was able to avoid causing further accidents and I just told him “I was out, the car did it”.

After that, I got a 2019 Volvo XC60 T8 with pilot assist. It was a more capable ADAS than the VW/Audi hack, but still very much an advanced lane keep vs automation. When it was apparent that Tesla to get the public-facing FSD betas out to people, I traded in the Volvo and never looked back. All three of our Teslas have FSD, and I’ve personally put in over 100k miles using FSD all across this country.

It’s not perfect, but there’s not a single daily driver I’d ever want without FSD.

Use it more. Get used to it. It has saved my ass a couple times, and has prevented accidents I didn’t even recognize until the car did something ‘odd’ only to find out that there was something in my blind spot or it was tracking a pedestrian I couldn’t see. Just the other day FSD stopped to wait for a red light runner I simply could not see coming.

 

[That Beast Mode]

Yes obviously.
we CAN rebuild him. We have the technology.
There’s a show that wasn’t even forward looking enough to anticipate inflation.
lol

What does six mil get you now?

Hahaha, I never thought of this. The 6 million dollar man - We can rebuild him, but his modest insurance plan denied the prosthetics - Reason for denial : One leg is enough.
Tune in next week to see if he can get approved for a mortgage and to see him buy a used Toyota Corolla.

 

[freddms]

I can trust FSD almost all of the times except for when another driver does something stupid. Primary them cutting in front of me as a blind spot lane change maneuver. I have taken over control every time this has occurred (that I am aware of). Any feedback on how it handles the situation for folks that have had actually let it decide?

I was the same way. BUT, I'm a conservative driver that keeps way more distance between vehicles than other people. I would say FSD is more aggressive by a pretty big margin. It will deal with the situation if you let it.

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