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[HaulingAss]

I'm not calling you out for having a difference of opinion on whether Driver Monitoring is too strict or not, I'm calling you out for calling all of us who have learned to use the system "Tesla fanbois", as if we are lying about knowing how to use it. That kind of personal attack, and extreme negativity towards other members, is what is ruining this forum. Frankly, I'm surprised that you have so much difficulty avoiding driver monitoring nags. Don't personally attack others simply because they know how to use their tools competently, while you don't.

Encouraging people to use the user interface without FSD engaged, is only leading to more hazards. Not fewer. Why live in denial?

Where is you supporting data? Tesla drives safety using actual data. We don't have access to that data but it's awfully presumptuous of you to claim that your experience trumps the reams of customer data Tesla has collected and analyzed to maximize safety.

There’s no way the nag should remain as annoying as it currently is. It’s just looney to suggest otherwise. Not to mention, I am not using any such device. You’re just grasping desperately at thin air.

That's your right to have a difference of opinion on how it should function, but you are not on the team developing it. It's not your decision to make. And don't personally attack people who have no problem using it. I love using FSD and rarely get nags, not because I'm a lying Tesla fanboi, but because I learned how to use it without nags.

But also, yes, the volume toggle does still reduce the nag on the CyberTruck. So claiming otherwise, it is just plain incorrect. Who is it that understands the ADAS system, when you are falsely claiming the volume toggle doesn’t do anything? Yes, it does.

But I never said the volume toggle won't reduce nags. ?‍

I'm not falsely claiming anything, you are, when you accuse me of making an argument I didn't make. Look in the mirror! And look in the mirror before you accuse @REM of being hysterical.

These kinds of comments remind me that some people in society are described as sitting on vertically-oriented broomsticks.

That kind of narrow-minded personal attack, based on nothing more than a personal difference of opinion, is what is ruining this forum. People can't even come here for a little information or to have some light reading about their favorite truck, without being personally attacked for daring to be able to use the system competently. It's a negative personal attack on the people who understand the technology and know how to use it naturally, and it comes from the peanut gallery of the few people who can't seem to learn the most simple of tasks, but who have the loudest and most repetitive voices insisting they are the only one in the room that is correct.

Honestly, satisfying the Driver Attention Monitoring System become a subconscious act less a few hundred miles after it was implemented on our cars. I don't even think about it most weeks, until I slack off a little, and it gently warns me with the screen starting to pulse in blue. If that's a problem for you, and you don't want to learn how to use it properly, so it's second nature, don't use it. Those are the terms and conditions you agreed to when the most advanced ADAS system was offered to you. That should have been obvious.

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[HaulingAss]

I think the very high safety record of cars on FSD speaks for itself. The data shows how low the FSD Supervised accident rate is.

Tesla is doing attention monitoring right. The data proves it.

 

[HaulingAss]

Like I said, keeping the FSD attention monitoring system happy has become an effortless subconscious habit, I don't even think about it.

That's what I mean when I say you haven't learned how to use the system. I look around out all the windows very naturally, the attention monitoring system picks up my eyes as they pass by the front view and that keeps it constantly satisfied. You have this silly notion that anyone who learns how to use the system effortlessly must be a lying fanboi.

The issue I hear you railing about is simply that you are not very good at learning how to use it naturally, without effort or conscious thought. That's why your experience is so different from those of us you label as "Tesla fanbois".

 

[DEAKBS]

Hey @Administrator, we have some more illegal and extremely dangerous autopilot defeat devices.

Hopefully these get the boot too.

How about you mind your own business and let people decide what they want to use on their cars or not and don't try and ruin it or keep information from people like our government already does as if we are too stupid and incapable of deciding for ourselves. With all due respect its people like you the reason Tesla ends up sending out some software update to prevent the use of these nag elimination devices that allow us to actually use our FSD more comfortably. This nag elimination device has made my life so much easier and I would be devastated of I could no longer use it. I commute for work at times about 5 hours and it really helps a lot with driver fatigue. What Tesla did when they ended preventing the use of the steering wheel defeat devices in the other Teslas ruined autopilot and made it more dangerous to use autopilot, because after those updates when it would ask to put pressure on the steering wheel, you had to apply so much pressure that it would cause you to swerve and accidentally disengaged autopilot. I was so happy to discover this nag elimination device for my Model 3 after those updates last year, and yes now I have it for my CT and I use the combination of sunglasses and this device to make my long commutes easier on me. And no its not dangerous because you still have to be looking straight ahead at the road, even with sunglasses if the cameras sees youre head turned in a different direction it will prompt you to pay attention to the road. I actually find the sensitivity of this prompt very annoying and makes me not even want to use FSD because I will barely look away or even just be selecting something on the screen and it will immediately tell me to pay attention. Theres also been times when I look away just for a second or am looking at my screen just selecting a new Playlist or changing my drive settings and it prompts me to pay attention and I am looking straight ahead at the road and the AI doesn't recognize me looking straight ahead and will end up suspending the FSD for the rest of the drive and give me a strike. Its extremely disappointing and frustrating that they force CT owners to only have and use FSD and have to be forced to let the AI camera watch us. That is probably the single biggest complaint I have about the CT so far.

 

[DEAKBS]

I don't know if you appreciate negative reviews sometimes, but I personally find them useful. I don't mind to rant about something once in a while. And here's mine.

While I think it's probably just a combination of factors and not exactly an intentionally bad product, the way they handle the situation is quite strange.

It was probably a bad idea to post about this item as there are some amongst us who are snitches and will probably report it to admin or Tesla and Tesla will probably try and send out an update to prevent the use of these kinds of devices. It sounds to me like you haven't figured out how to use it, but yeah the best way to use it on the CT is wearing sunglasses and turning it on. Wearing the sunglasses prevents the AI cabin camera from seeing your eyes too well and starts prompting you to apply pressure to the steering wheel instead, which you can also scroll the button wheels as a substitute. This is where the nag eliminator comes into place and takes care of that for you allowing you to not have to put your hands on the steering wheel at all.

 

[L3it3R]

Someone is fun at parties?

 

[HaulingAss]

Thankfully, the driver attention defeat device doesn't even work. It's a scam company selling devices that do not even do what they claim. By not immediately refunding the purchase price they expose themselves as the scammers they are. A reputable company would immediately refund the purchase price if their product didn't do what it was represented as doing.

Thanks to @Leo Snow for exposing the ripoff!

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