Long Range RWD Cybertruck launched! 362 miles range w/ soft tonneau ($62,490 w/ tax credit)

[Tfran1521]

“Signature light bar” is what tesla calls the DLR and they expressly state the the RWD won’t have it. Not really speculating on that part. That doesn’t mean I know for certain, but my expectation is it’s still going to have the same white opaque lens there just won’t be lights behind it.

Well dang lol

I didn't think of it that way

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[Black306]

Ford put a black piece of plastic on the hood of the Lighting Pro where the light bar goes on higher trim models. Tesla could do something similar; put a white piece of plastic in place of a light bar.

 

[Outdoors]

Even at $29,995 a single cab BEV would be a great marketing strategy and a good value if equipped right.

They are targeting the single cab pickup buyer judging by the photo. This segment appeals to baby boomers, retirees and students . The single cab pickup has been abandoned by pickup manufacturers.

I think there is a reason for such abandonment. On surface it sounds great. I used one for a couple months(single cab). It wasn't fun. For whatever reason everything I wanted to always put in the front with two people in it never fit. Always had to go in the back. Which meant either a cover or tieing crap down.

Go to a 4 door. One then uses bed less, and can carry 4 people.

Is there a market for it sure. Maybe the easiest way to throw a foot into the market. A small midsize car entering. One could lose a leg for failing.

Wonder how much subsidies would be available in the current small moment of austerity in the US.

 

[ABILISK]

“Signature light bar” is what tesla calls the DLR and they expressly state the the RWD won’t have it. Not really speculating on that part. That doesn’t mean I know for certain, but my expectation is it’s still going to have the same white opaque lens there just won’t be lights behind it.

A little deceptive as the photo on the order page clearly shows glowy-ness

 

[dalton108]

A little deceptive as the photo on the order page clearly shows glowy-ness

Yep, I noticed that too. We’ll have to see what the final product actually has, but if it matches what they have written rather than their images, it will not be illuminated.

 

[YDR37]

Is there a market for it sure. Maybe the easiest way to throw a foot into the market. A small midsize car entering.

Slate's approach is very interesting, because it is the opposite of Tesla's approach.

Tesla starts at the high end and works down. Their first product was the ultra-expensive Roadster. Then they introduced the lower-priced, but still expensive, Models S/X. Then came the inexpensive Models 3/Y.

Same pattern with the Cybertruck specifically. The first CTs were the six-figure Foundation Series. Then came the lower-priced non-Foundation Series. The lowest-priced RWD version came last.

Rivian is basically playing the same game. The existing R1T and R1S are expensive. The forthcoming R2 is supposed to be inexpensive. The R2 will be followed by the R3, which should cost even less.

Slate, in contrast, is starting at the low end, with a small cheap 2-door truck. If it succeeds, they will probably start working their way up.

 

[Cybertruck2024]

I hope that is true, because than they can fix mine which I picked up in June of 2024. Why wouldn't they fix Kyle's from OOS if it wasn't all of them? I truly hope they can fix it.

Service appointment 4/16 for that and lightbar. I'll let you know.

Let me know how it goes. My CB is much louder and much less comfortable than my Lightning was. I figured this was a trade off for the speed and unique characteristics of the vehicle, but it appears some of us actually have lemons.

The fact they didn't fix Kyle's and said it was how it is intended to drive makes me think us poor guys without a huge youtube following don't have a chance. I was less bothered by my truck being the way it is, until I heard the other CB owners say theirs aren't like mine.

 

[YDR37]

I wonder if they had offered a MR-RWD CT with everything the current model dual motor has, but the smaller 250mi battery, for $70k, would people feel the same?

People were expecting a 250mi RWD Cybertruck with all the other features of the AWD for $61K, because that's what was Tesla was advertising as recently as August 2024 (8 months ago).

So no, I don't think offering a 250mi RWD Cybertruck with all the other features of the AWD for $70K (instead of $61K) would make people happy.

Or what if the MSRP was $64k and not $69,990, would that have made a difference? I picked $64k, since the percentage difference is the same between $40k to $50k, as $64k to $80k. Would that have changed the perception? Because now, I feel like most people feel the price is too high for the LR-RWD, and that the dual-motor is the better value.

$64K would make a difference. Then it would be $56,500 after the tax credit, instead of $62,500. A price that starts with "5" looks better than one that starts with "6".

 

[Friday]

I'm gonna play WHAT IF for the RWD:

We know we are on the crux of the driverless Cybercab service launching.

Trucking deliveries worst part are the "last mile". Deliveries to a central depot is easier and efficient in current market. It's breaking up those full load deliveries and getting them to the multitude of finals that are expecting stuff. That's the box trucks, local semis, and vans that weave into small side streets, alleys, driveways, parking lots, etc.........causing bottlenecks and lots of on road daylight hour traffic.

The RWD could be a driverless LTL service for the small loads that dominate the daily logistic landscape. It has the Tesla brains, maneuverability, energy efficiency, real time traffic, and safety systems to be as good or better than the current LTL personnel. Vault could be caged, enclosed and have entry code for each stop for security of load. And CAMERAS.

Again, What IF.

 

[HaulingAss]

That's makes for a BLOODY Expensive 'Ladder' in my Christmas Stocking ?

True, but none of my ladders are motorized or have a great sounding built-in stereo.

 

[ricinro]

Too many verifiably false narratives crammed into one post:

1) My mono-wiper works great. The fact that the initial prototypes didn't have a wiper is meaningless. There is likely a little room for improvement, and improve it will. It already has with an OTA update.

2) The Cybertruck outsold every other electric pickup last year buy a good margin, including pickups that were in their second or third year of production. Whatever happened to the "first-mover" advantage?

3) The stainless steel certainly is structural, there's no way the load area could handle 2500 lbs. of payload on undulating terrain without those large rear stainless panels firmly affixed to the underlying structure. This has been confirmed by numerous people in a position to know.

4) The aluminum castings are highly unlikely to start failing due to fatigue. Tesla's structural engineers are well-versed in material properties. The fact that other trucks are not aluminum is because no other manufacturer had the balls to invest the kind of money required to make it a reality. Even Ford thought they were going out on a limb to change from steel body panels to aluminum. And that's only a body on frame truck. Tesla has the engineering and materials science chops to make it a reality. Worrying about metal fatigue is sometthing you should leave to the materials science and structural engineers, it's not a secret how you avoid it from becoming a problem, it just takes accurate engineering analysis (which Tesla is world class in).

Do you have any narratives grounded in reality to share? Why don't you just stick to bashing it's looks? Because you don't have to like it, even though plenty of others do.

Tesla spent years trying to figure out how to add wipers because it was an design afterthought and Elon was fixed on the external looks so a well for wipers was ruled out. I'm sure they had good intentions to make the CT with a structural body but, and this was mentioned in different teardowns, that the SS panels only contributed to perhaps ~10% of the structural strength. The loads in the bed are supported by the castings with panels glued or bolted on to the castings.

You are unfamiliar with metal fatigue in aluminum. Planes have the same limitations and have a service life. This is not a problem with steel. Tesla castings (see the frontal crashes) tend to break rather than bend or crumple.

Tesla expected production up to 250k units and millions of us reserved CTs but the market didn't bite and most of the reservations were abandoned. The first year, with the hype etc. they sold ~40k units and demand is down and even Tesla won't take in trade-ins. Tesla designed its line and CT for high volume that didn't happen. So Tesla knows CT is a flop.

Tesla could consider a redesign with a convention body, beefed up suspension, a pass thru to the cab and the steps or hole in the sails to make the bed useful.

Tesla needs to redo the front end to prevent snow blocking the headlights. Just pushing the lights flush with the bumper would help. Nobody needs work hardened SS panels on a truck. What they would love is simple and low cost repairability of body work, much lower insurance, reliability, door handles, deburred edges and dozens of way to ensure just walking past a CT won't cut you.

I did lots of mechanical design for decades and can see a monkey trap a mile away. CT was Elon's pet and he was fixed on a external design that prevented compromises or improvements. His ego or the highway BS. Been there, done that. Next time listen to Franz and the real engineers. (model 3/Y) and expect better results.

If battery tech needs a few years to make EV trucks competitive with ICE trucks then the market will wait.

 

[mongo]

Maybe the LR front light bar doesn't have individually addressable segments. Or lacks center section like the tail lights?

 

[WHIZZARD OF OZ]

True, but none of my ladders are motorized or have a great sounding built-in stereo.

Right On ... ROCK ON ( Stereo Stereo )

 

[HaulingAss]

I did lots of mechanical design for decades and can see a monkey trap a mile away. CT was Elon's pet and he was fixed on a external design that prevented compromises or improvements. His ego or the highway BS. Been there, done that. Next time listen to Franz and the real engineers. (model 3/Y) and expect better results.

Huh? I've been using legacy trucks my entire adult life (and then some) to get real work done. Farming, fishing, construction, towing, equipment deliveries, etc, and I've never owned or used a truck that worked so well, offered so much comfort and convenience and was so versatile. It can off-road with the best of the 4x4 pickup market with no penalties when it comes to on-road handling and safety. In fact, it's far better, no comparison. Most pickups with real off-road capability have very low cargo capacities. Not the Cybertruck, it can haul 2500 lbs with superior confidence compared to my F-150 hauling 1750 lbs. (it's max. capacity). And my F-150 is not even an off-road model, it's terrible off-road, compared to the Cybertruck. It's not just a lack of capability when the going gets difficult, the ride sucks too.

My observation is that Elon's concept did not prevent the Cybertruck from being superior, your claim is not grounded in facts.

Sure, Tesla could have made another low tech body-on-steel frame pickup, like Detroit has been building for over a century, but then we wouldn't have the Cybertruck. Don't judge its success after only one year, sales will build from here (and it's already the best-selling electric truck in the world). I can't help it if most new truck buyers don't yet know how superior the Cybertruck is to all the conventional 1/2-ton truck out there. It will take time for them to learn.

 

[WHIZZARD OF OZ]

Huh? I've been using legacy trucks my entire adult life (and then some) to get real work done. Farming, fishing, construction, towing, equipment deliveries, etc, and I've never owned or used a truck that worked so well, offered so much comfort and convenience and was so versatile. It can off-road with the best of the 4x4 pickup market with no penalties when it comes to on-road handling and safety. In fact, it's far better, no comparison. Most pickups with real off-road capability have very low cargo capacities. Not the Cybertruck, it can haul 2500 lbs with superior confidence compared to my F-150 hauling 1750 lbs. (it's max. capacity). And my F-150 is not even an off-road model, it's terrible off-road, compared to the Cybertruck. It's not just a lack of capability when the going gets difficult, the ride sucks too.

My observation is that Elon's concept did not prevent the Cybertruck from being superior, your claim is not grounded in facts.

Sure, Tesla could have made another low tech body-on-steel frame pickup, like Detroit has been building for over a century, but then we wouldn't have the Cybertruck. Don't judge its success after only one year, sales will build from here (and it's already the best-selling electric truck in the world). I can't help it if most new truck buyers don't yet know how superior the Cybertruck is to all the conventional 1/2-ton truck out there. It will take time for them to learn.

And I honestly thought in the Land Of The Pick-up Truck, most people would understand the leap forward that is CYBERTRUCK. As you say, TIME..... this will show results in sales of CT leading the pack for possibly the next decade & Beyond Guess it's gonna be a case of 'patience young grasshopper'

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