Major mistake not including charge cables with all new vehicles!

[Ogre]

Yeah, I see a lot of that here too. Like, you just defended the usage, but then again, I probably could have quoted someone else.

Some other good points about preparedness above, agreed.

Nuance on forums is tough.

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[SwampNut]

Yeah, but that design makes it pretty impossible for people to avoid it.

-Crissa

And yet somehow, every neighbor I talk to does avoid it. The EV is the only unknown in their minds, everyone knows to stagger all other loads. So I just advise them to charge at a lower rate and only after 10pm.

 

[Crissa]

And yet somehow, every neighbor I talk to does avoid it. The EV is the only unknown in their minds, everyone knows to stagger all other loads. So I just advise them to charge at a lower rate and only after 10pm.

Is there a ceiling you can duck under?

-Crissa

 

[Ogre]

And yet somehow, every neighbor I talk to does avoid it. The EV is the only unknown in their minds, everyone knows to stagger all other loads. So I just advise them to charge at a lower rate and only after 10pm.

A lot of people are just don’t care to learn about even fairly simple things like timing power use.

Teslas have a setting where they limit charging to off-peak hours. That should be enough for most people. Using a lower charge rate might help too.

 

[SwampNut]

Is there a ceiling you can duck under?

-Crissa

No, there is always one demand charge. I forgot the exact wording, but it's a multiplier from the highest usage for a given hour in the month.

A lot of people are just don’t care to learn about even fairly simple things like timing power use.

I've never met one, but that's a self-selected sample to some extent. Most of my neighbors are super anal-retentive about it. Is your experience that a lot of people really don't care?

 

[Ogre]

No, there is always one demand charge. I forgot the exact wording, but it's a multiplier from the highest usage for a given hour in the month.



I've never met one, but that's a self-selected sample to some extent. Most of my neighbors are super anal-retentive about it. Is your experience that a lot of people really don't care?

LOL

We don’t have peak rates.

When I was in California it seemed like people were largely oblivious, but since then rates have gone way up so maybe attitudes too. I think peak rates more than doubled since I left.

 

[SwampNut]

I had to look, and I already had the documentation because they just changed it and sent it a few days ago. It's just this simple:


The kW used to determine the demand charge above will be the Customer’s highest amount of demand (kW) averaged in a one-hour On-Peak period for the billing cycle.

 

[Crissa]

Ahh, so we'd just naturally avoid it because our spike is always in the morning, off-peak.

-Crissa

 

[SwampNut]

To give a relative measure of how important this is in our area, the current bill just barely into the cooling season is a total of $187, with $52 of it being demand charge.

The car used $18 according to Optiwatt.

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