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You are correct, the 3mm thickness makes it less dangerous than point of a knife. But it is more dangerous than a rounded corner. Since I started this, I should say where I come from. I was a bit active on Rivian Forum when I was seriously considering one. There was an edge similar to these corners on R1T gear tunnel door that has caused several injuries, one of which looked very bad with a ton of stitches. If you weld the piece you are showing to a 7000 lb truck (it is going nowhere upon impact) and if I trip and bang my temple to it, approximately half the weight of my body multiplied by the speed of my head on that small edge can take me out for good. Give the same edge a small radius and I may survive.


Ive said the same thing multiple times and people have laughed. Same ones that comment on my off roading critiques while obviously having less than zero experience in the matter actually

I have OSHA eyes i suppose. The number of people that have been impaled by rebar has got to be in the hundreds of thousands globally and rebar is a flat circle.

Those corners will unfortunately break someone’s skull sooner or later and undoubtedly cost someone their vision.
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You are correct, the 3mm thickness makes it less dangerous than point of a knife. But it is more dangerous than a rounded corner. Since I started this, I should say where I come from. I was a bit active on Rivian Forum when I was seriously considering one. There was an edge similar to these corners on R1T gear tunnel door that has caused several injuries, one of which looked very bad with a ton of stitches. If you weld the piece you are showing to a 7000 lb truck (it is going nowhere upon impact) and if I trip and bang my temple to it, approximately half the weight of my body multiplied by the speed of my head on that small edge can take me out for good. Give the same edge a small radius and I may survive.
I’ve only ever heard of the one guy. And yes, it was really bad and not sure why such pictures were posted on the Rivian forum.
It even made me rethink getting the R1T, I was leaning towards the R1S anyway (better proportions) as my young daughter would have spent too much time playing with the gear tunnel and would have eventually hurt herself (not saying that the sharp edges of the lower tailgate aren’t dangerous).
My point is that I never heard of more than one person actually getting hurt but I don’t keep tabs.
 

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Those corners will unfortunately break someone’s skull sooner or later and undoubtedly cost someone their vision.
Tesla Cybertruck Powered Frunk In Action! Great shots!! Delorean_dmc12_door_open


The DeLorean has a pointy corner on both the front and rear of each door, right at eye-level.

In 40 years, they've never been sued or even gotten a recall.
 

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I have OSHA eyes i suppose. The number of people that have been impaled by rebar has got to be in the hundreds of thousands globally and rebar is a flat circle.
BTW, you might want to see a psychologist about your unrealistic fear of rebar.

"According to the United States Department of Labor, only one reported incident involving a worker being injured by rebar has been fatal in the last two years with the description reading "employee is killed when crushed by steel cage." In the past 14 years, only one employee actually impaled by rebar has been killed."
https://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/news/the-walking-dead-rick-rebar-impaled-death-statistics/
 

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Like my Lowe's run last week? :eek: ?

Kept wondering why people would pull up to me on the freeway and just pace me for awhile......

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Looks like a massive infection. Maybe a broad-spectrum de-wormer would help. Probably should give a dose to any other cars sharing its garage!
 


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IMO, the frunk is disappointingly small for such a massive vehicle. I feel like this wouldn't even fit a full load of groceries.
This is a pick up truck. Personally, I feel like a lot of people are forgetting that, and that their is literally an entire bed of open space in the back, with an atomatic cover (which most stock trucks do not come with) + a frunk, + room inside of the truck for storage.
 

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This is a pick up truck. Personally, I feel like a lot of people are forgetting that, and that their is literally an entire bed of open space in the back, with an atomatic cover (which most stock trucks do not come with) + a frunk, + room inside of the truck for storage.
LIterally, my frunk will be used to store tow straps, tie downs, charging adapters and cables.
 

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LIterally, my frunk will be used to store tow straps, tie downs, charging adapters and cables.
WHY?!
I am genuinely curious :)
again, not a truck owner yet, but never had a need for tow strap with SUVs.
Charging adapters? - Tesla has the largest and most reliable network, I would even say ONLY network of chargers.
Cables? - what kind of cables and again, why?
 

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The DeLorean has a pointy corner on both the front and rear of each door, right at eye-level.

In 40 years, they've never been sued or even gotten a recall.

Have many deloreans spent time on job sites?
 

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BTW, you might want to see a psychologist about your unrealistic fear of rebar.

"According to the United States Department of Labor, only one reported incident involving a worker being injured by rebar has been fatal in the last two years with the description reading "employee is killed when crushed by steel cage." In the past 14 years, only one employee actually impaled by rebar has been killed."
https://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/news/the-walking-dead-rick-rebar-impaled-death-statistics/

Impaled does not mean killed and a key contributor to the safety of rebar are these which exist for an absolutely essential reason. And please feel free to kiss my az for implying I need counseling for identifying safety hazards.

I have dump trucks of money at risk if actively avoiding hazards is not prioritized. I stand by my assertion and I did not say or imply that was per annum

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I used to believe that the Tonneau cover folded down past the rear window like the rivian but this video kind of shows (almost) that it goes into thge roof.

It also looks like the bed goes under the rear roof so if you had a large square item to place in the bed it would contact that roof before contacting the baqck of the bed . Form over function i guess..

 
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WHY?!
I am genuinely curious :)
again, not a truck owner yet, but never had a need for tow strap with SUVs.
Charging adapters? - Tesla has the largest and most reliable network, I would even say ONLY network of chargers.
Cables? - what kind of cables and again, why?
So, I'm guessing you've never taken road top off the beaten path... :)

The tow strap is/was used to pull other cars out of snow banks as a Good Samaritan thing. Haven't had to use it for that in years (especially since we're no longer in Colorado). It still has uses and should be standard for all truck drivers. Even if you're not stuck, you can help somebody who is. Once I had to help some kids who decided to off road in the field below our house. They got stuck, took two trucks (one on each end of the tow strap looped around their axle) to get them out.

Charging adapters, nothing worse than needing to charge and realizing that you could if only you had the right adapters.

1) Hotel in Indian Wells, Ca. Chosen for the 6 level two chargers that they had, but when we got their they were full most of the time (partly by inconsiderate Tesla owners who for some reason can't be bothered to move their car after it's charged and they leave it overnight). In that situation, I had the 110 V adapter and a 100 foot extension cord, was able to reach the one outlet they had next to the chargers, and let mine charge SLOWLY overnight.

2) on our spring road trip out to Moab and back (stopping at 5 national parks), only level 2 chargers were available for long stretches. Same concern, don't want to find them occupied by EVs, or worse yet blocked by some A**hole in a gas truck who thinks he's funny). So I carry adapters that can go from ANY outlet (5-15, 6.30, 14-50, J-1772, Tesla) and let me plug in no matter what I find. I also carried a 50 foot 50 amp RV extension cord (3/4" thick!) so that if I could get within 90 feet of ANY charger if blocked (20 feet for charger cord, 50 foot extension, 20 feet on Tesla charger), I could charge. I also have adapters that convert from J-1772 to Tesla, And Tesla to J-1772, and J-1772 to 14-50. So that If a Tesla destination charger is being blocked, I can extend it by converting to 14-50 (through daisy chained adapters), then to that long extension cord, then onto the Tesla portable charger.

3) The 14-50 and 6-30 of course are standard in RV parks where you can usually charge in a pinch. (Ex: Caves at Grand Canyon have an RV park next door, and they let us plugin and charge for free while touring the cave.). Many restaurants in that area have a similar setup.

4) Worse case... run the 100 foot 110V cord out the hotel window and trickle charge it.... :devilish:

As the Boy Scouts say... "Be prepared".

Fortunately, we didn't encounter any issues with blocked or busy chargers in the national parks or hotels. But go to Plugshare and read the comments on some of those. It will always be my standard travel kit for the long road trips where we'll be away from the SC network.

ETA: this last week the tow strap was great hauling oak rounds up a hill after we harvested a fallen tree for firewood. Steep, double fall line, 6" of loose duff. Put the roads in the wheel barrow, put the tow strap through the front of the barrow, one person pulls, another pushes and steers. Made it so much easier with those 20"+ rounds! Tow straps have lots of uses!
 

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So, I'm guessing you've never taken road top off the beaten path... :)

The tow strap is/was used to pull other cars out of snow banks as a Good Samaritan thing. Haven't had to use it for that in years (especially since we're no longer in Colorado). It still has uses and should be standard for all truck drivers. Even if you're not stuck, you can help somebody who is. Once I had to help some kids who decided to off road in the field below our house. They got stuck, took two trucks (one on each end of the tow strap looped around their axle) to get them out.

Charging adapters, nothing worse than needing to charge and realizing that you could if only you had the right adapters.

1) Hotel in Indian Wells, Ca. Chosen for the 6 level two chargers that they had, but when we got their they were full most of the time (partly by inconsiderate Tesla owners who for some reason can't be bothered to move their car after it's charged and they leave it overnight). In that situation, I had the 110 V adapter and a 100 foot extension cord, was able to reach the one outlet they had next to the chargers, and let mine charge SLOWLY overnight.

2) on our spring road trip out to Moab and back (stopping at 5 national parks), only level 2 chargers were available for long stretches. Same concern, don't want to find them occupied by EVs, or worse yet blocked by some A**hole in a gas truck who thinks he's funny). So I carry adapters that can go from ANY outlet (5-15, 6.30, 14-50, J-1772, Tesla) and let me plug in no matter what I find. I also carried a 50 foot 50 amp RV extension cord (3/4" thick!) so that if I could get within 90 feet of ANY charger if blocked (20 feet for charger cord, 50 foot extension, 20 feet on Tesla charger), I could charge. I also have adapters that convert from J-1772 to Tesla, And Tesla to J-1772, and J-1772 to 14-50. So that If a Tesla destination charger is being blocked, I can extend it by converting to 14-50 (through daisy chained adapters), then to that long extension cord, then onto the Tesla portable charger.

3) The 14-50 and 6-30 of course are standard in RV parks where you can usually charge in a pinch. (Ex: Caves at Grand Canyon have an RV park next door, and they let us plugin and charge for free while touring the cave.). Many restaurants in that area have a similar setup.

4) Worse case... run the 100 foot 110V cord out the hotel window and trickle charge it.... :devilish:

As the Boy Scouts say... "Be prepared".

Fortunately, we didn't encounter any issues with blocked or busy chargers in the national parks or hotels. But go to Plugshare and read the comments on some of those. It will always be my standard travel kit for the long road trips where we'll be away from the SC network.

ETA: this last week the tow strap was great hauling oak rounds up a hill after we harvested a fallen tree for firewood. Steep, double fall line, 6" of loose duff. Put the roads in the wheel barrow, put the tow strap through the front of the barrow, one person pulls, another pushes and steers. Made it so much easier with those 20"+ rounds! Tow straps have lots of uses!
thank you for details! :)
you are right, haven't done any off-road stuff. the most extreme camping I've done is sleeping in state park cabins with no bathroom, bathrooms/showers were 200 feet walk :)
 

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The DeLorean has a pointy corner on both the front and rear of each door, right at eye-level.

In 40 years, they've never been sued or even gotten a recall.
1 - There are not enough of them out there to statistically support what you clearly stated (a bad design)

2 - Obviously DeLorean owners have been coming back to warn themselves of the accidents that are about to happen.
 

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Impaled does not mean killed and a key contributor to the safety of rebar are these which exist for an absolutely essential reason. And please feel free to kiss my az for implying I need counseling for identifying safety hazards.

I have dump trucks of money at risk if actively avoiding hazards is not prioritized. I stand by my assertion and I did not say or imply that was per annum
Rebar is just one of the many, many hazards on a construction site, and I applaud efforts to improve safety.

However, your assertion that "hundreds of thousands" of people have been impaled by rebar is insane. If you can show data that even 1,000 people have been impaled by rebar in the last 20 years, I'll make you my +1 at the Cybertruck delivery event if I get a golden ticket.
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