Pre-Production Proto Bed and Bulkhead Features Analysis

[Throwcomputer]

*taps shoukder* @Throwcomputer - moving from another thread to this

The slanting rear window evidenced (best I can tell) by the reflections in the window. It’s better seen in the video, moving, from the investor day presentations.

But a window perpendicular to the ground wouldn’t “bend” upwards the above gear rail on the inner bedside (it would appear straight), nor in straight-on views from the back be reflecting the bed floor (it would reflect the cameraman)

not betting my first born on it, but would bet my favorite pillow

curious your thoughts

You know I noticed the same reflection after I posted the comment you reference and started thinking similarly to the points you just made. But that one photo seems to contradict countless videos we've all watched.. so who knows. I sure don't.

I've also never seen it in person so I'm just going on what images and videos are posted online.. Many of which are terrible quality for various reasons.

I'm really not tied to any opinion firmly anymore as I believe as most on here have mentioned, the design is constantly in flux and we have yet to see a final production version.

Start of production can't come soon enough, although I am now feeling we are slightly further away than has been officially mentioned, simply based on the state of progress of battery factory construction.

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[greggertruck]

I wish Tesla would open up the dimensions and specs to 3rd parties. 3rd parties would fill the needs of many niche groups.

That’s just the thing, I don’t think they want to. They probably have a decent in house accessory thing going if MDR is truthful.

 

[cvalue13]

an observation I didn’t include but maybe should have:

Regardless of disagreements around max bed depth (eg 6.5’ vs 6’), I don’t think the bed max width is controversial. I think there’s broad agreement the max bed width will be right around 60-65” wide, like any other full-sized truck bed.

The irony is that, *some people* who argue that there isn't much encroachment by the bulkhead/eve, don't realize that they're inadvertently arguing that the max bed depth is significantly shorter than even 6'

On the point of bed width and out of curiosity: I used my pixel ruler utility on the bed width, and applied two competing assumptions about bed width to see how it affected resulting proportions of other portions of the truck.

NOT 65" WIDE

On one end of the spectrum, I told my pixel ruler to assume that the bed width is 65" wide, between inner sail edge. That 65" bed width assumption is too large, even accounting for a significant margin of error in my point selections for measuring. It results in the truck measuring (proportionally) 89" wide, which is too oversized.

60" WIDE BED - PLAUSIBLE

I next assumed the bed width between sails is 60" wide, and all the results seem plausible, allowing for a margin of error in my point selection for measurement. That said, I would begin to think that the 6.5' bed measurement (not subject to a margin of error) appears to begin to encroach too far into the cabin, but too close to call, really.

Biggest thing to note is that results in the truck being well over 80" width requiring amber marker lights - though, with a margin of error for my measurement point selection (particularly on identifying the edge of those fender flares) it's a hard to rely on that.

PLAUSIBLE THAT TRUCK IS ~79.8" WIDE

Since I had the measurement utility up, I did one last assumption: that the CT is the same width as normal 1/2 ton trucks, always a fraction of an inch below the 80" amber marker light threshold.

Biggest takeaway is that this assumption results in too much encroachment into the cabin by a 6.5' bed measurement (not subject to a margin of error).

In all, though, under any of these assumptions (and anywhere in between) three things become unavoidable to see:

(1) any reports of the CT having either a 6.5' or 6' deep bed, must be reporting the max bed depth at only the few first inches off the floor

(2) even if the CT has only a 6' bed, the rearmost edge of the eave encroaches at least around 10" over the max depth of the bed floor (the 'sill' under the rear window being somewhere around half of that)

(3) whereas if the CT continues to have a 6.5' bed, the rearmost edge of the eave encroaches significantly over the bed floor, a minimum of >14" - enough to make one have doubts about the continued viability of the 6.5' max bed depth at all

If one wishes for both minimum encroachment by the bulkhead/eave, and for the CT to still have a 6.5' bed, you may have to pick a favorite.

 

[cvalue13]

But that one photo seems to contradict countless videos we've all watched.. so who knows. I sure don't.

if you rewatch the cybertruck investor day video, paying attention to the last few minutes filmed at the rear of the truck, starting at the 3-minute mark, it's for me far easier to see in a moving video than photos that the rear window is slanted

in any event, yes, all the fun conjecture and sleuthing ends when the trucks start reaching the first customers. that said, I do like when a good puzzle eventually has a solution to check against

Take it from someone with a Lightning and who was active on that forum before, during, and after release - not long after release, the forum becomes increasingly more like any other car forum

 

[greggertruck]

On the point of bed width and out of curiosity: I used my pixel ruler utility on the bed width, and applied two competing assumptions about bed width to see how it affected resulting proportions of other portions of the truck.

NOT 65" WIDE

On one end of the spectrum, I told my pixel ruler to assume that the bed width is 65" wide, between inner sail edge. That 65" bed width assumption is too large, even accounting for a significant margin of error in my point selections for measuring. It results in the truck measuring (proportionally) 89" wide, which is too oversized.

60" WIDE BED - PLAUSIBLE

I next assumed the bed width between sails is 60" wide, and all the results seem plausible, allowing for a margin of error in my point selection for measurement. That said, I would begin to think that the 6.5' bed measurement (not subject to a margin of error) appears to begin to encroach too far into the cabin, but too close to call, really.

Biggest thing to note is that results in the truck being well over 80" width requiring amber marker lights - though, with a margin of error for my measurement point selection (particularly on identifying the edge of those fender flares) it's a hard to rely on that.

PLAUSIBLE THAT TRUCK IS ~79.8" WIDE

Since I had the measurement utility up, I did one last assumption: that the CT is the same width as normal 1/2 ton trucks, always a fraction of an inch below the 80" amber marker light threshold.

Biggest takeaway is that this assumption results in too much encroachment into the cabin by a 6.5' bed measurement (not subject to a margin of error).

In all, though, under any of these assumptions (and anywhere in between) three things become unavoidable to see:

(1) any reports of the CT having either a 6.5' or 6' deep bed, must be reporting the max bed depth at only the few first inches off the floor

(2) even if the CT has only a 6' bed, the rearmost edge of the eave encroaches at least around 10" over the max depth of the bed floor (the 'sill' under the rear window being somewhere around half of that)

(3) whereas if the CT continues to have a 6.5' bed, the rearmost edge of the eave encroaches significantly over the bed floor, a minimum of >14" - enough to make one have doubts about the continued viability of the 6.5' max bed depth at all

If one wishes for both minimum encroachment by the bulkhead/eave, and for the CT to still have a 6.5' bed, you may have to pick a favorite.

This is great and all, really.
But, couldn’t it be less words?

No offense. Really, good post. Just.. a lot.

 

[cvalue13]

This is great and all, really.
But, couldn’t it be less words?

No offense. Really, good post. Just.. a lot.

it surely could!

until I learned that on this forum, if even a fraction of what you say runs counter to the kool-aid (e.g., that there are reasons to doubt the continued viability of a 6.5' bed), brevity invites disingenuous commentary by the few bullies around here

And since it's my thread, and everything on the internet is optional reading...

 

[greggertruck]

it surely could!

until I learned that on this forum, if even a fraction of what you say runs counter to the kool-aid (e.g., that there are reasons to doubt the continued viability of a 6.5' bed), brevity invites disingenuous commentary by the few bullies around here

And since it's my thread, and everything on the internet is optional reading...

Are you implying EYE am bullying you?

 

[Throwcomputer]

if you rewatch the cybertruck investor day video, paying attention to the last few minutes filmed at the rear of the truck, starting at the 3-minute mark, it's for me far easier to see in a moving video than photos that the rear window is slanted

in any event, yes, all the fun conjecture and sleuthing ends when the trucks start reaching the first customers. that said, I do like when a good puzzle eventually has a solution to check against

Take it from someone with a Lightning and who was active on that forum before, during, and after release - not long after release, the forum becomes increasingly more like any other car forum

That's actually what I'm looking forward to. A typical car forum where most discussions are about useful hacks, mods and cool accessories. Instead of the constant debates on how this thing should be optimized for highly specific niche uses. Cause then everyone will actually be using it and there wont be any more conjecture.

 

[cvalue13]

Are you implying EYE am bullying you?

You don’t have the attention span to bully - too busy building your Twitter empire

And the people they bully, just don’t chat much again.

Whereas, it has opposite effect on me. And like all bullies, they don’t take as good as they dish.

 

[Deleted member 17810]

if you rewatch the cybertruck investor day video, paying attention to the last few minutes filmed at the rear of the truck, starting at the 3-minute mark, it's for me far easier to see in a moving video than photos that the rear window is slanted

in any event, yes, all the fun conjecture and sleuthing ends when the trucks start reaching the first customers. that said, I do like when a good puzzle eventually has a solution to check against

Take it from someone with a Lightning and who was active on that forum before, during, and after release - not long after release, the forum becomes increasingly more like any other car forum

Sad there will never be debagding threads.

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[Jectos]

an observation I didn’t include but maybe should have:

Regardless of disagreements around max bed depth (eg 6.5’ vs 6’), I don’t think the bed max width is controversial. I think there’s broad agreement the max bed width will be right around 60-65” wide, like any other full-sized truck bed.

The irony is that, *some people* who argue that there isn't much encroachment by the bulkhead/eve, don't realize that they're inadvertently arguing that the max bed depth is significantly shorter than even 6'

I think its safe to assume 4' between the wheel wells like all other full size pickups in order to carry 4x8 sheet goods.

 

[cvalue13]

I think its safe to assume 4' between the wheel wells like all other full size pickups in order to carry 4x8 sheet goods.

yes, me too, as for the narrowest potion of the bed floor (in red below)

conversely, the bed width I was measuring is at the widest portion (in green below)

 

[greggertruck]

You don’t have the attention span to bully - too busy building your Twitter empire

And the people they bully, just don’t chat much again.

Whereas, it has opposite effect on me. And like all bullies, they don’t take as good as they dish.

Ok. Thanks for following.

 

[anionic1]

The slanted rear window is the most interesting part. I really hope that equates to a full roll down rear window. Growing up, the cool dads had the trucks with rear roll down windows.

 

[greggertruck]

The slanted rear window is the most interesting part. I really hope that equates to a full roll down rear window. Growing up, the cool dads had the trucks with rear roll down windows.

Would love that feature from the Tundra

what’s been said by Cybertruck staff is they have benchmarked all other trucks, along with that I’d bet best features from many of them have been adopted.

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