Pre-Production Proto Bed and Bulkhead Features Analysis

[anionic1]

Would love that feature from the Tundra

what’s been said by Cybertruck staff is they have benchmarked all other trucks, along with that I’d bet best features from many of them have been adopted.

It would be an unbelievable waste of the triangular design and tonneau already coming up over the rear window for them not to have access into the bed. Here's to hoping.

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[cvalue13]

In the slide deck above I used the L-track mounting point spacing, assumed to be 1" as usual, for some relative size estimates/confirmation, eg.:

Now with this recent, more square-on, photo of the entire bed length, the same 1" spacing assumption can be used to guestimate some other surrounding bed measurements (with some minimal distortion in this lens)

First, based on the 1" spacing assumption, the L-track has 61 holes total, making the center-to-center of the L-track's outermost holes a known 61"

in order to account for both lens and perspective distortion (this photo is taken at enough of an angle that it would materially impact - making area near tailage appear elongated compared to compression at the bulkhead), I re-calibrated my measurement tool at either end of the photo (e.g., so the 1" standard near the tailgate was used only to measure items near the tailgate, and vice-versa for near the bulkhead)

the main measurements from the tailgate to the bulkhead sill encroachment over bed floor:

• L-track total (center-to-center of outermost holes) = 61" [assumed]
• Tailgate-side distance from nearest center of hole to ~tailgate = 5"
• Bulkehead-side distance from nearest center hole to window sill = 2.5"
• TOTAL: ~68" (5'8") from tailgate to bulkhead sill encroachment over bed floor

For fun, and to cross-measure accounting for distortion along the length, I measured from the L-track's outermost holes (presumed 61") and took the resulting pixel measurement distortion error factor and factored it into an overall length measure and got 68.46" - so pretty consistent across both methodologies.

In the last photo above, note that I took the opportunity to also get a measure of the hardware width, which came in at ~5.28"

Which is consistent with my earlier guestimates from the OP:

And all these measurements, are consistent with my earlier estimates of:

PLAUSIBLE THAT TRUCK IS ~79.8" WIDE

Since I had the measurement utility up, I did one last assumption: that the CT is the same width as normal 1/2 ton trucks, always a fraction of an inch below the 80" amber marker light threshold.

Biggest takeaway is that this assumption results in too much encroachment into the cabin by a 6.5' bed measurement (not subject to a margin of error).

Which altogether reflected estimates of:

• the total bed depth at floor of right at 6' give-or-take an inch
• bed depth between bulkhead sill and tailgate of ~5'6"
• total encroachment of the over-window eave of ~10-12" (meaning the bed aperture is roughly/just over 5' give or take an inch or two)

Which for the more visual among us would result in overall bed lengths at different height intervals of around (give or take an inch or two):

 

[greggertruck]

Bed floor is 6’.75” precisely. Fact.

Not making a point or correcting, simply sharing.

 

[cvalue13]

Bed floor is 6’.75” precisely. Fact.

Not making a point or correcting, simply sharing.

6’ 0.75” - Is that measured on or between the corrugated bumps in the tailgate?

TBF if the 0.75” comes from between the bumps, it’s consistent in methodology with describing the CT as having “a six foot bed”

 

[greggertruck]

6’ 0.75” - Is that measured on or between the corrugated bumps in the tailgate?

TBF if the 0.75” comes from between the bumps, it’s consistent in methodology with describing the CT as having “a six foot bed”

Here’s a reaaaaaaly high quality zoomable photo. Hope forum doesn’t crap on this with compression…

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[anionic1]

In the slide deck above I used the L-track mounting point spacing, assumed to be 1" as usual, for some relative size estimates/confirmation, eg.:


Now with this recent, more square-on, photo of the entire bed length, the same 1" spacing assumption can be used to guestimate some other surrounding bed measurements (with some minimal distortion in this lens)

First, based on the 1" spacing assumption, the L-track has 61 holes total, making the center-to-center of the L-track's outermost holes a known 61"

in order to account for both lens and perspective distortion (this photo is taken at enough of an angle that it would materially impact - making area near tailage appear elongated compared to compression at the bulkhead), I re-calibrated my measurement tool at either end of the photo (e.g., so the 1" standard near the tailgate was used only to measure items near the tailgate, and vice-versa for near the bulkhead)

the main measurements from the tailgate to the bulkhead sill encroachment over bed floor:

• L-track total (center-to-center of outermost holes) = 61" [assumed]
• Tailgate-side distance from nearest center of hole to ~tailgate = 5"
• Bulkehead-side distance from nearest center hole to window sill = 2.5"
• TOTAL: ~68" (5'8") from tailgate to bulkhead sill encroachment over bed floor

For fun, and to cross-measure accounting for distortion along the length, I measured from the L-track's outermost holes (presumed 61") and took the resulting pixel measurement distortion error factor and factored it into an overall length measure and got 68.46" - so pretty consistent across both methodologies.

In the last photo above, note that I took the opportunity to also get a measure of the hardware width, which came in at ~5.28"

Which is consistent with my earlier guestimates from the OP:





And all these measurements, are consistent with my earlier estimates of:




Which altogether reflected estimates of:

• the total bed depth at floor of right at 6' give-or-take an inch
• bed depth between bulkhead sill and tailgate of ~5'6"
• total encroachment of the over-window eave of ~10-12" (meaning the bed aperture is roughly/just over 5' give or take an inch or two)

Which for the more visual among us would result in overall bed lengths at different height intervals of around (give or take an inch or two):

What is the point of all this measuring, do you have a specific item that you need to fit?

 

[cvalue13]

What is the point of all this measuring, do you have a specific item that you need to fit?

years ago, I interviewed at Bain & Company. Interview problem assigned was to determine how many golfballs fit in a school bus.

I didn’t get the job, because I’d only ever been in a short school bus

been practicing ever since

 

[anionic1]

years ago, I interviewed at Bain & Company. Interview problem assigned was to determine how many golfballs fit in a school bus.

I didn’t get the job, because I’d only ever been in a short school bus

been practicing ever since

Best answer would be, if you’re transporting golf balls in a school bus, I think I am interviewing with the wrong company.

But your detailed measuring has shown me a couple key items. A 6’ bed has to be made contrary to the popular country song. 8’ building materials still won’t fit. And the fact that I am 5’ 11” may finally make me adequate. And some of the best people journeyed on the short bus so your hired in my book.

 

[anionic1]

Bed floor is 6’.75” precisely. Fact.

Not making a point or correcting, simply sharing.

If you zoom in his arrow tips are about 3/8” off on both sides which for a work truck is acceptable bed tolerance in my book.

 

[fritter63]

What is the point of all this measuring, do you have a specific item that you need to fit?

the concern is over the length of a full sheet of plywood. But turns out it doesn’t matter since Cybertruck is a “grower not a shower”. ?

 

[TyPope]

I love the analysis. Thanks. It took a little getting used to thinking of the bed length as "bed depth" but other than that, spot on. I appreciate the explanation of the distortion and logic. Thank you.

My trucks have all been "long-beds". I've never heard of a truck with an 8 foot deep bed.

However, it would be interesting to know how deep the bed actually is. Will I be able to reach in over the side and pick up a board on the floor of the bed? I'm 6'3" and pickups have just gotten rediculously tall in their sides... I suppose to maximize their cargo capacity or some other metric that "matters" to consumers.

I mean, when was the last time you saw an ad for a 1-ton truck that said "Now with a 450 mile range"?

 

[MEDICALJMP]

Call me a weekend worker or whatever, I just do not get the idea that Cybertruck is inferior to whatever standard truck bed you choose because it does not have the ability to put a sheet of plywood in the bed without dropping the tailgate. Oh my! Societal calamity! Dogs and cats living together! Ever heard of a tie-down strap and a red flag? Correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t those brackets on the side intended for adjustable tie-downs?
I would love a 6.5’ bed, I will take 6’ and be happy.

 

[Ehninger1212]

When I read this its like a 90's television news piece in my mind. *news reporter voice "LINES, ARROWS, CIRCLES, SQUIGGLIES and a dimension of the unknown. Witness one persons struggle to figure it all out, tune in tonight for this exclusive interview with the anonymous individual going at great lengths to figure it all out, cvalue13"

 

[cvalue13]

the concern is over the length of a full sheet of plywood. But turns out it doesn’t matter since Cybertruck is a “grower not a shower”. ?

set aside that it seems there were a lot of people hoping to “camp” in the bed - which seemed to me a bad idea even with a 6.5’ bed plus a midgate, but now at a *not actually* 6’ bed and no midgate sleeping in the bed becomes a to me an unworkable plan entirely.

and for me, I don’t care much about plywood. But i recognize it will be a key comp in the market.

my bed use cases, where bed sizes come into play, are loose gravel/stone regularly, stone on pallets, and then things like large furniture/TV boxes irregularly. (I use it for a lot of other things, but those are where size most comes into play.)

for those use cases, length at bed floor is largely irrelevant - the question instead is bed width and the size of the bed opening and aperture from overhead, including at the diagonal measurement which shrinks by ~2X as the bed aperture gets smaller
(eg a 5.5” bed has a diagonal of ~94”, whereas a 5’ aperture has a diagonal of ~85”, a full 10” less).

For long/tall furniture you can retreat to putting down the tailgate - but even with a 5.5’ bed the tailgate is already often retreat position if moving longer items and needing all four legs down. It’s just that much more of a limitation if the bed aperture gets smaller - unless the tailgate is longer than usual.

But for gravel the tailgate has to be up, and the aperture size is relevant to the loader bucket size being used at the yard. Here the retreat is to ask the yard to use a bobcat instead of the full sized front loader.

For pallets, the question is bed width, and the skill of the fork operator

But mostly, I enjoy deducing through little mysteries with admittedly low relevance. That quirk is exercised here, in genealogy, and in vintage pilot’s wristwatches.

 

[cvalue13]

My trucks have all been "long-beds". I've never heard of a truck with an 8 foot deep bed.

good point - poor verbiage

unconsciously maybe drifted toward “depth” vernacular in an attempt to distinguish that - unlike other (all?) traditional pickup beds - the CT doesn’t have a single bed “length”

it has a range of lengths, the maxinin left hat floor, the minimum length at the eave above the window, and between them that range of lengths

As for “depth,” you’re right - and I’ll also be interested to know it’s actual “depth” (which will similarly be a range with a min/max )

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