Reporting FSD mistakes - how?

[thevaleyard]

Tesla’s Full Self-Driving (FSD) system needs a better way to report mistakes—something more effective than the current 30-second voice feedback, which isn’t enough to explain why I disengaged it. Sure, many drives happen without intervention, but that doesn’t mean FSD isn’t riddled with issues. The real problem? There’s no easy way to tell Tesla about them.

Here are some examples:

1. Fake Red Lights: At night, FSD mistakes my neighborhood’s yellowish globe streetlights for red lights. It stops at an intersection and waits indefinitely until I tap the accelerator to move it along. The screen even shows it thinks it’s a red light.
2. Highway Entry Lights: At traffic-metered highway entrances, the green light is brief. FSD doesn’t react fast enough, leaving me stuck as people honk behind me. I have to nudge it with the pedal, but Tesla never asks why.
3. Drive-Thrus: FSD can’t handle a fast-food drive-thru like In-N-Out. It doesn’t stop or roll down the window to let me order—there’s no option for that.
4. Parking Garages: It won’t pause to grab a ticket when entering a garage or insert one to exit. I have to take over, and Tesla’s clueless.
5. Map Errors: Navigation is often off—sometimes by a block, sometimes more. It might drop me at the wrong spot, like the front of a building instead of the parking lot, or pick the wrong side of the lot. These need fixes, but how do I report them?
6. Parking Failures: FSD can’t park in my driveway if there’s a sidewalk in the way. It also struggles with diagonal spots—Tesla says it only does parallel or perpendicular. How will this work for robotaxis by June 2025? If I own one, will it just never park at my house?
7. Carpool Lanes: Why is there a manual toggle for carpool lanes? It should detect passengers via seatbelts. In California, where carpool lanes can be two wide, FSD picks the inner lane it shouldn’t use, oblivious to the rules.
8. Cybertruck Left Turns: Since the 2025.8.4 update, my Cybertruck’s rear wheel hits the curb on left turns with a median. It used to adjust at the last second, but now it doesn’t—cheerfully scraping along.

With a steering wheel and pedal, these are minor annoyances I can fix. But robotaxis—no wheel, no pedal—are a different beast. How will Tesla solve this by June 2025 if they don’t even know what’s broken? Their feedback system stinks—I’ve tried posting on X, but it’s ignored or drowned out. The 30-second voice clip can’t capture the details.

How’s FSD going to handle a world without driver controls? People will lose it when their car just sits there, clueless. Any thoughts on how Tesla could fix this—or how to get their attention?

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[misdemeanor]

There’s no easy way to tell Tesla about them.

Other than the 30-second voice feedback that you’re provided after disengaging, you can try emailing [email protected], but you’ll never get a response since no one watches that mailbox.

 

[Pimoli]

Tesla’s Full Self-Driving (FSD) system needs a better way to report mistakes—something more effective than the current 30-second voice feedback, which isn’t enough to explain why I disengaged it. Sure, many drives happen without intervention, but that doesn’t mean FSD isn’t riddled with issues. The real problem? There’s no easy way to tell Tesla about them.

Here are some examples:

1. Fake Red Lights: At night, FSD mistakes my neighborhood’s yellowish globe streetlights for red lights. It stops at an intersection and waits indefinitely until I tap the accelerator to move it along. The screen even shows it thinks it’s a red light.
2. Highway Entry Lights: At traffic-metered highway entrances, the green light is brief. FSD doesn’t react fast enough, leaving me stuck as people honk behind me. I have to nudge it with the pedal, but Tesla never asks why.
3. Drive-Thrus: FSD can’t handle a fast-food drive-thru like In-N-Out. It doesn’t stop or roll down the window to let me order—there’s no option for that.
4. Parking Garages: It won’t pause to grab a ticket when entering a garage or insert one to exit. I have to take over, and Tesla’s clueless.
5. Map Errors: Navigation is often off—sometimes by a block, sometimes more. It might drop me at the wrong spot, like the front of a building instead of the parking lot, or pick the wrong side of the lot. These need fixes, but how do I report them?
6. Parking Failures: FSD can’t park in my driveway if there’s a sidewalk in the way. It also struggles with diagonal spots—Tesla says it only does parallel or perpendicular. How will this work for robotaxis by June 2025? If I own one, will it just never park at my house?
7. Carpool Lanes: Why is there a manual toggle for carpool lanes? It should detect passengers via seatbelts. In California, where carpool lanes can be two wide, FSD picks the inner lane it shouldn’t use, oblivious to the rules.
8. Cybertruck Left Turns: Since the 2025.8.4 update, my Cybertruck’s rear wheel hits the curb on left turns with a median. It used to adjust at the last second, but now it doesn’t—cheerfully scraping along.

With a steering wheel and pedal, these are minor annoyances I can fix. But robotaxis—no wheel, no pedal—are a different beast. How will Tesla solve this by June 2025 if they don’t even know what’s broken? Their feedback system stinks—I’ve tried posting on X, but it’s ignored or drowned out. The 30-second voice clip can’t capture the details.

How’s FSD going to handle a world without driver controls? People will lose it when their car just sits there, clueless. Any thoughts on how Tesla could fix this—or how to get their attention?

 

[GmP]

I concur that I also would like to report “issues “ that not necessarily lead to an intervention, to the FSD team.

From your list I have experienced myself only issue 2. Btw, I got the feeling this got worse in 13.2.8

I do have one particular right turn where the truck doesn’t go to the right, leaving room on the right for someone to creep in, while it will then try to turn right, but can’t because someone is there. While it doesn’t do the turn unsafe, so no intervention by me, it creates an unsafe situation.

Not that I need/want to report it, but as a passenger that cannot intervene I would freak out with the too far to the right and too far to the left riding in lanes. Not 100% sure this is FSD or something with my cameras, but if that would be the case in a robot taxi, I don’t think people will use it more than once.

 

[Pimoli]

I think Tesla is aware of all those issues. Actually there are more to the list. You have mentioned the most important ones.
In my opinion its due ti the fact are using the full Supervised version of FSD. The cybercab will not have the Supervised FSD which will be more accurate than the available one.
I do not think the Cybercab will be ready for the next 5 years for mass production for multiple reasons.

I took my cybertruck on a road trips just to have some data on the FSD. My biggest concerns were:
Not changing late on time when someone is following to close.
Not slowing down when exiting the highway.
Taking super sharp turn at the curb of the roads.
Not identifying potholes.
Breaking last minute when coming from high speed traffic to slow traffic.
Those were real safety concerns that need to be address ASAP. I am not sure if anyone else has experienced similar issues on top of the list you already mentioned.

 

[REM]

Any thoughts on how Tesla could fix this—or how to get their attention?

I'm hoping Tesla will give us the ability to do this really soon:

Grok: hey pal, now that I see you are parked, I noticed you had a couple of FSD disengagements during this drive. Do you have a few minutes to tell me about them?

I'll play them back on the screen for you one at a time. Give me as much detail as you can.

 

[GmP]

I think Tesla is aware of all those issues. Actually there are more to the list. You have mentioned the most important ones.
In my opinion its due ti the fact are using the full Supervised version of FSD. The cybercab will not have the Supervised FSD which will be more accurate than the available one.
I do not think the Cybercab will be ready for the next 5 years for mass production for multiple reasons.

I took my cybertruck on a road trips just to have some data on the FSD. My biggest concerns were:
Not changing late on time when someone is following to close.
Not slowing down when exiting the highway.
Taking super sharp turn at the curb of the roads.
Not identifying potholes.
Breaking last minute when coming from high speed traffic to slow traffic.
Those were real safety concerns that need to be address ASAP. I am not sure if anyone else has experienced similar issues on top of the list you already mentioned.

What mode are you using? I use standard and don’t notice any of the ones you mentioned, at least not often and/or in a dangerous way.

I do agree that unsupervised seems still some time away, as it can and will get stuck, point 2 from the original poster.

 

[thevaleyard]

What mode are you using? I use standard and don’t notice any of the ones you mentioned, at least not often and/or in a dangerous way.

I do agree that unsupervised seems still some time away, as it can and will get stuck, point 2 from the original poster.

I usually use Hurry mode.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Other than the 30-second voice feedback that you’re provided after disengaging, you can try emailing [email protected], but you’ll never get a response since no one watches that mailbox.

That sounds very negative. It is true that they send a mail back saying that they cannot respond to emails, but that doesn't mean that they aren't reading them. I bet that the voice comments are paid attention to, and that the emails are read, but that the FSD team has its hands full. We do not know how they prioritize feature improvement, nor how complicated it is to train the system. Since you are clearly angry about all of this perhaps you should have stuck with providing the [email protected] email address. I have sent long lists to them of things that could be improved, and how, and that makes me feel better, because I have articulated what I think is right. Since you have the email address I am assuming that you have used it, but you said nothing about it feeling good to articulate your concerns and suggestions. If it doesn't make you feel better knowing that you have made a contribution, why bother?

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Tesla’s Full Self-Driving (FSD) system needs a better way to report mistakes—something more effective than the current 30-second voice feedback, which isn’t enough to explain why I disengaged it. Sure, many drives happen without intervention, but that doesn’t mean FSD isn’t riddled with issues. The real problem? There’s no easy way to tell Tesla about them.

Here are some examples:

1. Fake Red Lights: At night, FSD mistakes my neighborhood’s yellowish globe streetlights for red lights. It stops at an intersection and waits indefinitely until I tap the accelerator to move it along. The screen even shows it thinks it’s a red light.
2. Highway Entry Lights: At traffic-metered highway entrances, the green light is brief. FSD doesn’t react fast enough, leaving me stuck as people honk behind me. I have to nudge it with the pedal, but Tesla never asks why.
3. Drive-Thrus: FSD can’t handle a fast-food drive-thru like In-N-Out. It doesn’t stop or roll down the window to let me order—there’s no option for that.
4. Parking Garages: It won’t pause to grab a ticket when entering a garage or insert one to exit. I have to take over, and Tesla’s clueless.
5. Map Errors: Navigation is often off—sometimes by a block, sometimes more. It might drop me at the wrong spot, like the front of a building instead of the parking lot, or pick the wrong side of the lot. These need fixes, but how do I report them?
6. Parking Failures: FSD can’t park in my driveway if there’s a sidewalk in the way. It also struggles with diagonal spots—Tesla says it only does parallel or perpendicular. How will this work for robotaxis by June 2025? If I own one, will it just never park at my house?
7. Carpool Lanes: Why is there a manual toggle for carpool lanes? It should detect passengers via seatbelts. In California, where carpool lanes can be two wide, FSD picks the inner lane it shouldn’t use, oblivious to the rules.
8. Cybertruck Left Turns: Since the 2025.8.4 update, my Cybertruck’s rear wheel hits the curb on left turns with a median. It used to adjust at the last second, but now it doesn’t—cheerfully scraping along.

With a steering wheel and pedal, these are minor annoyances I can fix. But robotaxis—no wheel, no pedal—are a different beast. How will Tesla solve this by June 2025 if they don’t even know what’s broken? Their feedback system stinks—I’ve tried posting on X, but it’s ignored or drowned out. The 30-second voice clip can’t capture the details.

How’s FSD going to handle a world without driver controls? People will lose it when their car just sits there, clueless. Any thoughts on how Tesla could fix this—or how to get their attention?

It sounds like you are stewing in your own juice. When I find a situation that FSD isn't doing well (or at all) then I do not use FSD in those situations. I will wait until the next release and try again. And again, etc. I find that FSD is far from perfect on city streets, but that it is very helpful on the highway. You are partly correct about the voice comments but others have provided you with the [email protected] email address and you can send your comments there. I find that, more often than not, when I disengage and do the voice mail thing, I am telling them how stupid they are that they missed this or did that. If I were on the FSD team and I heard people swearing at me, I might not pay very close attention to the good components of what they are complaining about. I am very, very guilty of getting angry in those situations because FSD is risking my life and that of anyone in the car when it makes mistakes and that fear turns to anger that gets conveyed. When I am alone sometimes I am level headed in my comments. You are much better off sharing your thoughts in email when you can be objective about what you think they should be paying attention to and how you think they should do it.

 

[misdemeanor]

That sounds very negative. It is true that they send a mail back saying that they cannot respond to emails, but that doesn't mean that they aren't reading them. I bet that the voice comments are paid attention to, and that the emails are read, but that the FSD team has its hands full. We do not know how they prioritize feature improvement, nor how complicated it is to train the system. Since you are clearly angry about all of this perhaps you should have stuck with providing the [email protected] email address. I have sent long lists to them of things that could be improved, and how, and that makes me feel better, because I have articulated what I think is right. Since you have the email address I am assuming that you have used it, but you said nothing about it feeling good to articulate your concerns and suggestions. If it doesn't make you feel better knowing that you have made a contribution, why bother?

Right.. because my tone says that...

Would you feel better if I said "it's an unmonitored mailbox"

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Right.. because my tone says that...

Would you feel better if I said "it's an unmonitored mailbox"

It’s not about me or you but the guys that want to report issues. As soon as they send mail they will get the unmonitored email.

 

[Gigahorse]

Yea........if I disengage there is a good chance I am NOT going to be thinking about "gee let me tell Tesla what happened there" more like "glad I saw that coming and am alive"

Truck should save a 60s clip before the disengagement that it pops up after you park and asks you what happened. NOT right after swerving wildly to dodge a tire on the highway.

 

[REM]

Truck should save a 60s clip before the disengagement that it pops up after you park and asks you what happened. NOT right after swerving wildly to dodge a tire on the highway.

I'm hoping they switch to that model; it would provide much better context.

 

[Gigahorse]

I'm hoping they switch to that model; it would provide much better context.

and WAY better data, instead of getting someone who is just dealing with a disengagement and is flustered they can calmly sit in their driveway and review and report.

Things like that and sentry mode missing B pillars is flabbergasting why it has not happened yet

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