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SpaceX's New FCC Filing Requests To Operate Starlink 'In Moving Vehicles, Vessels & Aircraft'

by Evelyn Arevalo March 05, 2021



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SpaceX is already providing Starlink satellite broadband internet in the United States and abroad. With approximately 1,205 satellites in orbit the company is accepting service pre-orders via Starlink.com. Starlink customers use a phased-array dish antenna and Wi-Fi router to receive high-speed internet service from the satellites.

The service is currently limited to a specific region and address, the dish antenna cannot be moved far from the specific user location to receive connection. “Your Starlink is assigned to a single cell,” the company says, “If you move your Starlink outside of its assigned cell, a satellite will not be scheduled to serve your Starlink and you will not receive internet.”

SpaceX has plans to make Starlink service available on the move, according to a new Federal Communications Commission (FCC) filing that was published on March 5. SpaceX’s FCC filing requests to operate Starlink terminals ‘in moving vehicles, vessels, and aircraft.’

“The Commission has granted a blanket license for operation of up to one million end-user customer Earth stations [dish antennas]. SpaceX Services seeks a blanket license authorizing operation of such end-user earth stations for deployment as Vehicle-Mounted Earth Stations (“VMESs”), Earth Stations on Vessels (“ESVs”), and Earth Stations Aboard Aircraft (“ESAAs”) (collectively, Earth Stations in Motion (“ESIMs”)),” SpaceX wrote in the FCC filing. “SpaceX Services seeks authority to deploy and operate these earth stations (1) as VMES throughout the United States and its territories, (2) as ESVs in the territorial waters of the United States and throughout international waters worldwide, and (3) as ESAAs on U.S.-registered aircraft operating worldwide and non-U.S.-registered aircraft operating in U.S. airspace,” the company told the FCC.

SpaceX also said it “will ensure installation of ESIM terminals on vehicles and vessels by qualified installers who have an understanding of the antenna's radiation environment and the measures best suited to maximize protection of the general public and persons operating the vehicle and equipment.”

If SpaceX receives FCC approval, Starlink will be capable of operating aboard moving vehicles including airplanes and ships out in the ocean where internet communications are not usually available. “Granting this application would serve the public interest by authorizing a new class of ground-based components for SpaceX's satellite system that will expand the range of broadband capabilities available to moving vehicles throughout the United States and to moving vessels and aircraft worldwide,” SpaceX told the Commission, “The urgency to provide broadband service to unserved and underserved areas has never been clearer. U.S. and worldwide demand for broadband services and Internet connectivity continues to increase with escalating requirements for speed, capacity, and reliability and ongoing adaptations for usage."


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SpaceX's New FCC Filing Requests To Operate Starlink 'In Moving Vehicles, Vessels & Aircraft'

by Evelyn Arevalo March 05, 2021



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SpaceX is already providing Starlink satellite broadband internet in the United States and abroad. With approximately 1,205 satellites in orbit the company is accepting service pre-orders via Starlink.com. Starlink customers use a phased-array dish antenna and Wi-Fi router to receive high-speed internet service from the satellites.

The service is currently limited to a specific region and address, the dish antenna cannot be moved far from the specific user location to receive connection. “Your Starlink is assigned to a single cell,” the company says, “If you move your Starlink outside of its assigned cell, a satellite will not be scheduled to serve your Starlink and you will not receive internet.”

SpaceX has plans to make Starlink service available on the move, according to a new Federal Communications Commission (FCC) filing that was published on March 5. SpaceX’s FCC filing requests to operate Starlink terminals ‘in moving vehicles, vessels, and aircraft.’

“The Commission has granted a blanket license for operation of up to one million end-user customer Earth stations [dish antennas]. SpaceX Services seeks a blanket license authorizing operation of such end-user earth stations for deployment as Vehicle-Mounted Earth Stations (“VMESs”), Earth Stations on Vessels (“ESVs”), and Earth Stations Aboard Aircraft (“ESAAs”) (collectively, Earth Stations in Motion (“ESIMs”)),” SpaceX wrote in the FCC filing. “SpaceX Services seeks authority to deploy and operate these earth stations (1) as VMES throughout the United States and its territories, (2) as ESVs in the territorial waters of the United States and throughout international waters worldwide, and (3) as ESAAs on U.S.-registered aircraft operating worldwide and non-U.S.-registered aircraft operating in U.S. airspace,” the company told the FCC.

SpaceX also said it “will ensure installation of ESIM terminals on vehicles and vessels by qualified installers who have an understanding of the antenna's radiation environment and the measures best suited to maximize protection of the general public and persons operating the vehicle and equipment.”

If SpaceX receives FCC approval, Starlink will be capable of operating aboard moving vehicles including airplanes and ships out in the ocean where internet communications are not usually available. “Granting this application would serve the public interest by authorizing a new class of ground-based components for SpaceX's satellite system that will expand the range of broadband capabilities available to moving vehicles throughout the United States and to moving vessels and aircraft worldwide,” SpaceX told the Commission, “The urgency to provide broadband service to unserved and underserved areas has never been clearer. U.S. and worldwide demand for broadband services and Internet connectivity continues to increase with escalating requirements for speed, capacity, and reliability and ongoing adaptations for usage."


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Of course, a smaller receiver in the CT would be cool.
 

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I will opt out or disable this "feature", plus i am gonna jailbreak the computer that runs the vehicle.
 

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I called it a couple days after the CT reveal. That is the number 1 feature I want in my CT. To have the capabilities of high speed internet pretty much anywhere I want to go. People always talk about the next "Tesla Killer" well, here is another "Industry killer"
 


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I called it a couple days after the CT reveal. That is the number 1 feature I want in my CT. To have the capabilities of high speed internet pretty much anywhere I want to go. People always talk about the next "Tesla Killer" well, here is another "Industry killer"
No kidding. Can you imagine using your CT to augment your home internet? "Daddy, when are you coming home [because our internet is so much faster when your truck is in the driveway]" I am not sure if that is very realistic, but it is fun to pretend.
 

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Have fun with your non-supercharging brick.

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Have fun with your non-supercharging brick.

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So far it just "voids the warranty", but, If a window flies off or a motor seizes or something structural happens, irregardless of "jailbreaking", then Tesla would have a DAMN hard time NOT fixing it. Tela trying to say " jailbreaking" was the reason the windshield flew off, the shocks gave way or... would be "ludicrous mode"!

Now if there is a structural defect that Tesla did and a recall was initiated then that is NOT a warranty issue. Hence it gets repaired or lawsuits begin flying!

Preventing any owner from the full use of their BOUGHT and PAID OFF vehicle is challengeable in a court of law and Tesla, I don't think would want to go down that road..
 
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Preventing any owner from the full use of their BOUGHT and PAID OFF vehicle is challengeable.in a court of law and Tesla, I don't think would want to go down that rode.
Farmers have been going at it with John Deere over proprietary software and being able to work on their farm machinery.

Farmers Fight John Deere Over Who Gets to Fix an $800,000 Tractor

Farmers Fight John Deere Over Who Gets to Fix an $800,000 Tractor


The right-to-repair movement has come to the heartland, where some farmers are demanding access to the software that runs their equipment.
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It’s Husker Harvest Days, Nebraska’s biggest agricultural trade show, and Kevin Kenney is working the pavilions. The engineer, inventor, and inveterate manure-stirrer is trying to be discreet. He has allies here among the sellers and auctioneers of used tractors and aftermarket parts. There are farmers, mechanics, and the odd politician or two who embrace him. But enemies lurk everywhere.


Kenney leads a grassroots campaign in the heart of the heartland to restore a fundamental right most people don’t realize they’ve lost—the right to repair their own farm equipment. By sheer dint of personal passion, he’s taking on John Deere and the other global equipment manufacturers in a bid to preserve mechanical skills on the American farm. Big Tractor says farmers have no right to access the copyrighted software that controls every facet of today’s equipment, even to repair their own machines. That’s the exclusive domain of authorized dealerships. Kenney says the software barriers create corporate monopolies—and destroy the agrarian ethos of resiliency and self-reliance.


“The spirit of the right-to-repair is the birthright we all share as a hot-rodding nation,” he says, channeling his inner Thomas Jefferson and Big Daddy Don Garlits. Tall and trim at 55, with gray-flecked hair and a passing resemblance to a corn-fed George Clooney, Kenney has kicked up significant pushback against the computerization of U.S. agriculture. His crusade to pass right-to-repair legislation in Nebraska has spread to proposals in 20 states. Last spring, Senator Elizabeth Warren, campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination, called for a national law “that empowers farmers to repair their equipment without going to an authorized agent.”


At stake for Deere & Co. and other big manufacturers is the free rein they’ve had to remake farming with data and software. The transformation has helped U.S. farmers increase productivity, but at the cost of a steady shift in operational control from farmer to machine. One of the world’s oldest and most hands-on occupations has literally become hands-off.



Anything a farmer does on a modern tractor, beginning with opening the cab door, generates messages captured by its main onboard computer, which uploads the signals to the cloud via a cellular transmitter located, in many Deere models, beneath the driver’s seat. These machines have been meticulously programmed and tested to minimize hazards and maximize productivity, Deere says, and it’s all too complicated for farmers to be getting involved in. The issue isn’t actually repair, says Stephanie See, director of state government relations for the Association of Equipment Manufacturers—it’s agitators who insist on the right to modify the machines.

“One tweak could cascade throughout an entire software system and lead to unintended consequences,” says Julian Sanchez, Deere’s director of precision agriculture strategy and business development. In a fast-moving vehicle weighing as much as 20 tons, he says, that could mean carnage. It doesn’t take much imagination to envision a coding mistake by a hacker, or even a well-intended farmer or mechanic, that sends a 500-horsepower combine careening into a farmhouse or through a clutch of workers eating lunch in the fields.
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For a decade, the right-to-repair battle cry has rattled around rarefied circles of digital-rights activists, techno-libertarians, and hands-on repair geeks—primarily on the East and West coasts. Now, largely because of Kenney’s persistence, it’s tugging at the Farm Belt. Why, activists ask, should the buyer of an espresso machine or laser printer have to get replacement pods and cartridges from the original manufacturer? Who is Apple Inc. to dictate that only its certified parts can be used to repair a broken iPhone screen? What gives Deere the right to insist, as it did in a 2015 filing with the U.S. Copyright Office, that its customers, who pay as much as $800,000 for a piece of farm equipment, don’t own the machine’s software and merely receive “an implied license” to operate the vehicle?

“We’ve been telling people for years that if it has a chip in it, it’s going to get monopolized,” says Gay Gordon-Byrne, executive director of the Repair Association, a national coalition of trade, digital-rights, and environmental groups that promotes the repair and reuse of electronics.

Gordon-Byrne serves as an informal adviser, mentor, and reality check to Kenney. She’s also helped him set a clear goal: a law modeled on a landmark Massachusetts statute, passed in 2012, that required the auto industry to offer car owners and independent mechanics the same diagnostic and repair software they provide their own dealers. After it passed, automakers relented and made all their repair tools available nationwide.

That’s what Kenney demands for farm equipment—and what Deere and its competitors reject.
At Husker Harvest Days, an ag industry blowout held every September in Grand Island, Neb., Kenney moves warily. After lunch, he drops by to see Kenny Roelofsen, co-owner of Abilene Machine LLC, a five-state retailer of used equipment and spare parts based in Abilene, Kan. Roelofsen’s company is instrumental in keeping older tractors in the field, an essential service for smaller farmers on tight budgets. But he says software barriers in newer machines are killing his incentive to make and sell parts. “I’ve stopped developing parts for machines built after 2010, because I know my customers can’t work on them without software,” he says. “Only giant corporate farms can afford newer equipment. For the small guy, it’s not economically feasible.”

Deere’s pavilion at Husker Harvest Days occupies a huge corner lot decked out in green and packed with gleaming new machines. Kenney is talking quietly there beside an enormous 9000 Forage Harvester, priced at about $600,000, when a familiar face approaches. It’s Willie Vogt, executive director of content for Farm Progress Cos., the agricultural publishing company that produces Husker Harvest Days and several other big farm shows. Deere is one of three corporate sponsors here; it also sponsors Farm Progress’s namesake show, which will be held in Iowa in September.

Vogt stops to chat. Kenney tenses up. Vogt, whose bio says he’s covered agriculture for 38 years and oversees 24 magazines and 29 websites, says he’s still not ready to publish stories on right-to-repair. “It’s a very complicated issue that generates more heat than light,” he says.

The two men square off on the green carpet. Vogt says Deere can’t let people meddle with the machines for safety reasons, pointing to the 9000 harvester’s enormous rotors by their feet. He tells Kenney that “the left side of the issue” pays lip service to repair but really wants access to manufacturers’ source code to modify horsepower, emission controls, and other programmed functions. Kenney fires back: “Why should farm vehicles be treated any differently than cars and trucks?”

Kenney is disgusted. “Willie Vogt’s basically a knight for Deere,” he says, leaving the pavilion. “It’s like Napoleon when he ran through Europe. He didn’t fight. He knighted everyone.” Vogt, in a follow-up email, disputes this characterization. “People should be able to repair what they can, and that isn’t easy,” he writes. “But full access to code remains a concern.”

American farmers have a saying to describe their loyalty to Deere, an attachment stretching back generations in many families: “We bleed green.” Deere’s metallic-green-and-yellow farm vehicles dominate the world’s $68 billion market for agricultural equipment, accounting for more than half of all farm machinery sales in the U.S. and more than a third of equipment revenue worldwide—a bigger market share than that of the next two tractor makers, Case New Holland and Kubota Corp., combined. Customer loyalty is legendary. A 2017 survey by Farm Equipment magazine found 84% of Deere owners plan to purchase another green machine.

The company says the world needs digitized farming to feed the 10 billion people expected on Earth by 2050. The proprietary software Kenney and other repair advocates revile enables sensors and computers on machines to log and transmit data on everything: moisture and nitrogen levels in soil; the exact placement of seeds, fertilizer, and pesticides; and, ultimately, the size of the harvest. Having access to so much real-time data enables farmers and their computer-controlled machines to plant, spray, fertilize, and harvest at optimal times with as little waste as possible. All the farmer has to do is link his equipment to agronomic prescriptions beamed to him over the internet.

This is farming’s version of big data, and the potential is staggering, enthusiasts say. The efficiency gains of recent decades have increased productivity an estimated 1.4% per year for the past 70 years, and U.S. farmers now produce an average corn yield of about 175 bushels an acre. That’s still less than 30% of what some hyperattentive farmers have shown is possible under optimum conditions. Deere and other agriculture technology companies are betting that what the industry calls “precision agriculture” can dramatically expand output.

“If you were to walk around our buildings with hundreds, thousands of software engineers, it’s like every line of code being written there is making it into a machine that’s helping a farmer farm more precisely and reliably,” says Deere’s Sanchez. Consider machine sync, he says, the algorithms that direct the high-speed whirl of different farm machinery.

As a combine processes a field of corn or soybeans during harvest, it sprays the separated grain into a wagon towed alongside the combine. When the wagon is full, it’s driven to the edge of the field and emptied into a truck while another wagon slides in to take its place. The vehicles are in constant motion, synchronized by software that controls the steering, drive train, and actuators on each like a ballet choreographer. The same technology enables a planter machine to place 40,000 seeds in an acre of land with the precision of less than an inch.

“I realized it all goes back to software. That was the beginning of my John Deere derangement syndrome”

There’s also a more obvious motive for protecting proprietary software: money. Historically, the healthy profit margins of the parts and services units have helped smooth out earnings when demand for machines is down. For Deere and its dealerships, parts and services are three to six times more profitable than sales of original equipment, according to company filings.

Farmers need to keep aging equipment running; that helped increase annual parts sales by 22%, to $6.7 billion, from 2013 to 2019, while Deere’s total agricultural-equipment sales plunged 19%, to $23.7 billion. If a right-to-repair law pried open the parts and services markets to competition, Deere’s cyclical balancing act could falter. Sanchez denies the company is fighting to protect a parts-and-services monopoly. “On the repair side, I would say we’re all in,” he says. “There’s a significant number of tools that exist in the market and are available to any farmer without having to go through the dealer.”

That’s news to Jeremy Davis, owner of Firehouse Repair LLC in Palmer, one of a small number of independent equipment mechanics in central Nebraska. Before going out on his own in 2016, Davis worked for a decade at an equipment dealership, where “you take for granted you can get any software or service manual you need,” he says. “Now it’s really a struggle. We can’t even get basic wiring schematics for particular brands.”
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At least half the repairs Davis sees involve code faults triggered by emission-control systems. The faults render vehicles inoperable—a bit like a mouse incapacitating an elephant. He can replace the exhaust filters and particulate traps that throw a tractor’s codes, but dealerships won’t provide the software to restart it unless he or the owner hauls the machine in or pays for a mechanic to make a house call.

A few years ago, Davis paid $2,500 for a pirated version of John Deere’s 2014 Service Advisor software from someone in Hong Kong, but the discs are now long out of date.

Davis scoffs at a main industry argument against providing repair software to farmers and independent mechanics: that they’ll abuse it to disable emission-control systems. The incentive works the other way around, he says. Many farmers who own machines going off warranty delete the emission-system software to avoid costly future repairs—often with the backdoor assistance of the dealers, he says. If right-to-repair legislation led to more independent mechanics who could resolve faults quickly and easily, owners would have less motivation to disable emission controls, Davis says. “The way it is now is unfair to owners, and it’s unfair to me.”

To Kenney, the notion that farmers can’t work on their own tractors is an affront to the rugged individualism that built America. Raised on a central Nebraska farm, he was always passionate about machines. When he was 12, he and a friend rebuilt the transmission of his dad’s 1953 Studebaker pickup, racing to reassemble the parts in a single weekend before his parents returned from a trip.

He earned his agricultural engineering degree at the University of Nebraska in Lincoln, and he’ll still drive a dozen hours in a weekend to attend a Cornhusker football game. He’s angry with his alma mater, though, for no longer making agricultural engineering students get their hands greasy working on tractor engines. An administrator told Kenney, in an email exchange that still pains him, that engine repair is taught at community colleges now. “We couldn’t graduate if we didn’t know how to break down and rebuild a diesel engine,” he says.

After failing as a tenant farmer in the early 2000s, Kenney patented a design for a low-emission engine that burns diesel with a mix of ethanol and water. He couldn’t commercialize the so-called dual-fuel technology. In his mind, the big equipment manufacturers were making so much money rigging their conventional diesel motors with clumsy emission-control systems to meet U.S. Environmental Protection Agency standards that they had no interest in cleaner-burning alternatives. “I realized it all goes back to software,” Kenney says. “That was the beginning of my John Deere derangement syndrome.”

He now makes his living installing tractor software for a farm data company and tuning and tweaking trucks and tractors. His calling, however, is the right to repair. He’s spent the past four years turning conservative farmers against the corporate incarnation of motherhood and apple pie.

“If data gets out, negotiating powers are weakened. Farmers’ fears are very real. It’s not paranoia”
For Nebraska farmers, horror stories about tractors “bricking,” or shutting down from a computer fault, are as common as waterhemp in their cornfields—and just as annoying. A Deere spokesperson says, “Help is never more than a finger tap away,” referring to the communications equipment on modern farm implements. But getting a machine running again isn’t always quick.

Bill Blauhorn of Palmer lost half a day of harvesting corn while waiting for mechanics to drive 65 miles to his farm to reset the software on his 2017 Case IH combine. The machine’s emission-control system would repeatedly ice up on cold nights and in the morning throw a fault code that prevented it from starting. In 2018, Blauhorn was racing to bring in the harvest before an approaching windstorm when the system wouldn’t turn over. He says the five-hour wait for someone to show up and do a half-hour software fix contributed to a loss of at least 15% of the crop. Since then he doesn’t take chances.

“We just let the machine run all night,” he says.

Andrew McHargue’s tractor went down for an entire week during planting season while he waited for technicians to solve a problem. The Chapman, Neb., farmer paid $300,000 for the new machine in 2014, and over the next few years sank almost $8,000 into clearing fault codes. He finally mothballed the combine in favor of a 2010 model without the latest software and emission-control systems. The used tractor cost him an additional $160,000.

“I’m trying to sell the 2014, but nobody wants it,” says McHargue, a board member of Nebraska’s Merrick County Farm Bureau. “The whole disconnect is about who really owns it. If it’s mine, I should be able to modify and fix it myself. There’s no reason we shouldn’t have a repair system exactly like the auto industry’s.”

As things stand, Deere has the technical ability to remotely shut down a farmer’s machine anytime—if, say, the farmer missed a lease payment or tuned a tractor’s software to goose its horsepower, a common hack widely available through gray-market providers. A Deere spokesman says many manufacturers can remotely control vehicles they sell, but Deere has never activated this capability, except in construction equipment in China, where financing terms require it to.
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Equipment makers don’t just control farmers’ mechanical data. They also collect their production data right out from under their rear ends—unbeknownst to many tractor owners, Kenney says. “You should see their faces when I show them the SIM card under the seat. They go ballistic.”

In 2011, when Deere began gathering and transmitting production data from farmers’ machines, it didn’t immediately tell them. When they found out, some considered it a breach of trust, and some accused the company of appropriating proprietary information. Many growers regard their methods as trade secrets that give them an advantage over competitors when vying for terms with creditors and landlords. “If data gets out, negotiating powers are weakened,” says Terry Griffin, an agricultural economist at Kansas State University. “Farmers’ fears are very real. It’s not paranoia.”

There’s also a scramble for farmer data. Companies from startups to behemoths such as Bayer AG are racing to acquire it to help develop and sell their products. Aggregated in datasets covering millions of acres, the information can yield valuable insights about which seeds thrive in which soil types and with which fertilizers and pesticides.

Today, according to Sanchez, farmers control their own data and decide who has access to it. That appears to contradict a disclosure statement on Deere’s website, which says the company may share user data with its “affiliates and suppliers.” Equipment makers say farmers want the data support. The world’s No. 4 tractor maker, AGCO Corp., which makes Challenger and Massey Ferguson machinery, initially refused to disclose customers’ production data to anyone. It changed its policy after farmers asked for more data services. “Customers really want us to help them,” says Bill Hurley, an AGCO vice president.

Kenney worries more about security than privacy. He claims equipment makers’ remote control over vehicle software makes farmers—and the U.S. food supply—vulnerable to sabotage. His concerns have grounding. In 2016 the FBI issued a warning that U.S. agriculture is “increasingly vulnerable to cyberattacks as farmers become more reliant on digitized data.” What if a foreign adversary hacks Deere and shuts down thousands of tractors in the field? What if the internet or the electric grid is knocked out by a cyberattack or geomagnetic storm? Unable to restart their machines without dealer software, farmers might have no recourse but to watch as food production crawls to a halt.

Before closing time at Husker Harvest Days, Bruce Rieker, chief of government relations for the Nebraska Farm Bureau, sits down to talk in a breezeway behind his group’s pavilion. The bureau’s delegates have twice voted, almost unanimously, in favor of the right to repair. Yet after its staff spent months working with Kenney and a group of farmers to draft a state bill in late 2018, the Farm Bureau dropped it. Kenney says he was told they missed the filing deadline.

Rieker, who spent years as a Republican aide in Congress, says he’s the one who killed the proposal. Despite bipartisan support in Nebraska’s legislature, some powerful lawmakers didn’t want to take on Deere and the equipment lobby and told the two sides to settle their differences without legislation. “A lot of times I believe the best solution isn’t legislative or regulatory, it’s parties working things out,” he says.

Kenney and his collaborators are livid when told it was Rieker who aborted the legislation. “I feel stabbed in the back,” says Tom Schwarz, a Nebraska Farm Bureau leader who’d spent months working on the bill. “Why would we send that signal to the companies that you don’t need to worry about us—that we’re not going to take any action that threatens your revenue?” The Farm Bureau is negotiating with industry trade groups for farmers’ access to the same software provided to dealers. Progress has been limited, and the bureau voted in December to consider another bill in 2021. The Association of Equipment Manufacturers, trying to get ahead of actions like that, is coordinating a 2021 release of repair and diagnostic tools for farmers.

All this could be moot if legislation passes in one of the other states where Kenney and the right-to-repair movement have inspired bills. Prospects of passage this year look good in Massachusetts and New York, where farmers don’t use massive machines such as combines and the equipment lobby is less influential, says Gordon-Byrne of the Repair Association. “That will absolutely open the floodgates,” she says. “If you can buy software in Massachusetts, you’ll have it in Nebraska in milliseconds.”

Kenney, not the type to wait patiently, recently emailed Gordon-Byrne a photo of a 2017 Deere combine he’d proudly tuned up for a friend with an extra 50 horsepower using gray-market software. She wasn’t impressed. Such tweaking could fall outside copyright law and amount to theft of services, she warned him, because Deere sells higher horsepower models of the exact same machine. The only difference is the software setting. She wishes she had “100 Kevins,” she says, but a provocation like this probably isn’t good for the cause.

Kenney wasn’t buying it. He wrote back: “Gay, thanks but why was it OK years ago to pull the diesel engine fuel pump off, screw the horsepower up, put it back on, and run it with no consequences of ‘theft’? Just because these engines are now electronic vs. mechanical, we’ve lost our rights to repair and modify? Back in my day we truly believed, Hot-Rodding is a National Birthright.



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Preventing any owner from the full use of their BOUGHT and PAID OFF vehicle is challengeable in a court of law and Tesla, I don't think would want to go down that road..
I agree with you.

But our courts do not. And Tesla kicks off cars that have been hacked from their Supercharger network as 'unsafe' and hacked.

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Farmers have been going at it with John Deere over proprietary software and being able to work on their farm machinery.

Farmers Fight John Deere Over Who Gets to Fix an $800,000 Tractor

Farmers Fight John Deere Over Who Gets to Fix an $800,000 Tractor


The right-to-repair movement has come to the heartland, where some farmers are demanding access to the software that runs their equipment.
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March 5, 2020, 4:00 AM CST

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It’s Husker Harvest Days, Nebraska’s biggest agricultural trade show, and Kevin Kenney is working the pavilions. The engineer, inventor, and inveterate manure-stirrer is trying to be discreet. He has allies here among the sellers and auctioneers of used tractors and aftermarket parts. There are farmers, mechanics, and the odd politician or two who embrace him. But enemies lurk everywhere.


Kenney leads a grassroots campaign in the heart of the heartland to restore a fundamental right most people don’t realize they’ve lost—the right to repair their own farm equipment. By sheer dint of personal passion, he’s taking on John Deere and the other global equipment manufacturers in a bid to preserve mechanical skills on the American farm. Big Tractor says farmers have no right to access the copyrighted software that controls every facet of today’s equipment, even to repair their own machines. That’s the exclusive domain of authorized dealerships. Kenney says the software barriers create corporate monopolies—and destroy the agrarian ethos of resiliency and self-reliance.


“The spirit of the right-to-repair is the birthright we all share as a hot-rodding nation,” he says, channeling his inner Thomas Jefferson and Big Daddy Don Garlits. Tall and trim at 55, with gray-flecked hair and a passing resemblance to a corn-fed George Clooney, Kenney has kicked up significant pushback against the computerization of U.S. agriculture. His crusade to pass right-to-repair legislation in Nebraska has spread to proposals in 20 states. Last spring, Senator Elizabeth Warren, campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination, called for a national law “that empowers farmers to repair their equipment without going to an authorized agent.”


At stake for Deere & Co. and other big manufacturers is the free rein they’ve had to remake farming with data and software. The transformation has helped U.S. farmers increase productivity, but at the cost of a steady shift in operational control from farmer to machine. One of the world’s oldest and most hands-on occupations has literally become hands-off.



Anything a farmer does on a modern tractor, beginning with opening the cab door, generates messages captured by its main onboard computer, which uploads the signals to the cloud via a cellular transmitter located, in many Deere models, beneath the driver’s seat. These machines have been meticulously programmed and tested to minimize hazards and maximize productivity, Deere says, and it’s all too complicated for farmers to be getting involved in. The issue isn’t actually repair, says Stephanie See, director of state government relations for the Association of Equipment Manufacturers—it’s agitators who insist on the right to modify the machines.

“One tweak could cascade throughout an entire software system and lead to unintended consequences,” says Julian Sanchez, Deere’s director of precision agriculture strategy and business development. In a fast-moving vehicle weighing as much as 20 tons, he says, that could mean carnage. It doesn’t take much imagination to envision a coding mistake by a hacker, or even a well-intended farmer or mechanic, that sends a 500-horsepower combine careening into a farmhouse or through a clutch of workers eating lunch in the fields.
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For a decade, the right-to-repair battle cry has rattled around rarefied circles of digital-rights activists, techno-libertarians, and hands-on repair geeks—primarily on the East and West coasts. Now, largely because of Kenney’s persistence, it’s tugging at the Farm Belt. Why, activists ask, should the buyer of an espresso machine or laser printer have to get replacement pods and cartridges from the original manufacturer? Who is Apple Inc. to dictate that only its certified parts can be used to repair a broken iPhone screen? What gives Deere the right to insist, as it did in a 2015 filing with the U.S. Copyright Office, that its customers, who pay as much as $800,000 for a piece of farm equipment, don’t own the machine’s software and merely receive “an implied license” to operate the vehicle?

“We’ve been telling people for years that if it has a chip in it, it’s going to get monopolized,” says Gay Gordon-Byrne, executive director of the Repair Association, a national coalition of trade, digital-rights, and environmental groups that promotes the repair and reuse of electronics.

Gordon-Byrne serves as an informal adviser, mentor, and reality check to Kenney. She’s also helped him set a clear goal: a law modeled on a landmark Massachusetts statute, passed in 2012, that required the auto industry to offer car owners and independent mechanics the same diagnostic and repair software they provide their own dealers. After it passed, automakers relented and made all their repair tools available nationwide.

That’s what Kenney demands for farm equipment—and what Deere and its competitors reject.
At Husker Harvest Days, an ag industry blowout held every September in Grand Island, Neb., Kenney moves warily. After lunch, he drops by to see Kenny Roelofsen, co-owner of Abilene Machine LLC, a five-state retailer of used equipment and spare parts based in Abilene, Kan. Roelofsen’s company is instrumental in keeping older tractors in the field, an essential service for smaller farmers on tight budgets. But he says software barriers in newer machines are killing his incentive to make and sell parts. “I’ve stopped developing parts for machines built after 2010, because I know my customers can’t work on them without software,” he says. “Only giant corporate farms can afford newer equipment. For the small guy, it’s not economically feasible.”

Deere’s pavilion at Husker Harvest Days occupies a huge corner lot decked out in green and packed with gleaming new machines. Kenney is talking quietly there beside an enormous 9000 Forage Harvester, priced at about $600,000, when a familiar face approaches. It’s Willie Vogt, executive director of content for Farm Progress Cos., the agricultural publishing company that produces Husker Harvest Days and several other big farm shows. Deere is one of three corporate sponsors here; it also sponsors Farm Progress’s namesake show, which will be held in Iowa in September.

Vogt stops to chat. Kenney tenses up. Vogt, whose bio says he’s covered agriculture for 38 years and oversees 24 magazines and 29 websites, says he’s still not ready to publish stories on right-to-repair. “It’s a very complicated issue that generates more heat than light,” he says.

The two men square off on the green carpet. Vogt says Deere can’t let people meddle with the machines for safety reasons, pointing to the 9000 harvester’s enormous rotors by their feet. He tells Kenney that “the left side of the issue” pays lip service to repair but really wants access to manufacturers’ source code to modify horsepower, emission controls, and other programmed functions. Kenney fires back: “Why should farm vehicles be treated any differently than cars and trucks?”

Kenney is disgusted. “Willie Vogt’s basically a knight for Deere,” he says, leaving the pavilion. “It’s like Napoleon when he ran through Europe. He didn’t fight. He knighted everyone.” Vogt, in a follow-up email, disputes this characterization. “People should be able to repair what they can, and that isn’t easy,” he writes. “But full access to code remains a concern.”

American farmers have a saying to describe their loyalty to Deere, an attachment stretching back generations in many families: “We bleed green.” Deere’s metallic-green-and-yellow farm vehicles dominate the world’s $68 billion market for agricultural equipment, accounting for more than half of all farm machinery sales in the U.S. and more than a third of equipment revenue worldwide—a bigger market share than that of the next two tractor makers, Case New Holland and Kubota Corp., combined. Customer loyalty is legendary. A 2017 survey by Farm Equipment magazine found 84% of Deere owners plan to purchase another green machine.

The company says the world needs digitized farming to feed the 10 billion people expected on Earth by 2050. The proprietary software Kenney and other repair advocates revile enables sensors and computers on machines to log and transmit data on everything: moisture and nitrogen levels in soil; the exact placement of seeds, fertilizer, and pesticides; and, ultimately, the size of the harvest. Having access to so much real-time data enables farmers and their computer-controlled machines to plant, spray, fertilize, and harvest at optimal times with as little waste as possible. All the farmer has to do is link his equipment to agronomic prescriptions beamed to him over the internet.

This is farming’s version of big data, and the potential is staggering, enthusiasts say. The efficiency gains of recent decades have increased productivity an estimated 1.4% per year for the past 70 years, and U.S. farmers now produce an average corn yield of about 175 bushels an acre. That’s still less than 30% of what some hyperattentive farmers have shown is possible under optimum conditions. Deere and other agriculture technology companies are betting that what the industry calls “precision agriculture” can dramatically expand output.

“If you were to walk around our buildings with hundreds, thousands of software engineers, it’s like every line of code being written there is making it into a machine that’s helping a farmer farm more precisely and reliably,” says Deere’s Sanchez. Consider machine sync, he says, the algorithms that direct the high-speed whirl of different farm machinery.

As a combine processes a field of corn or soybeans during harvest, it sprays the separated grain into a wagon towed alongside the combine. When the wagon is full, it’s driven to the edge of the field and emptied into a truck while another wagon slides in to take its place. The vehicles are in constant motion, synchronized by software that controls the steering, drive train, and actuators on each like a ballet choreographer. The same technology enables a planter machine to place 40,000 seeds in an acre of land with the precision of less than an inch.

“I realized it all goes back to software. That was the beginning of my John Deere derangement syndrome”

There’s also a more obvious motive for protecting proprietary software: money. Historically, the healthy profit margins of the parts and services units have helped smooth out earnings when demand for machines is down. For Deere and its dealerships, parts and services are three to six times more profitable than sales of original equipment, according to company filings.

Farmers need to keep aging equipment running; that helped increase annual parts sales by 22%, to $6.7 billion, from 2013 to 2019, while Deere’s total agricultural-equipment sales plunged 19%, to $23.7 billion. If a right-to-repair law pried open the parts and services markets to competition, Deere’s cyclical balancing act could falter. Sanchez denies the company is fighting to protect a parts-and-services monopoly. “On the repair side, I would say we’re all in,” he says. “There’s a significant number of tools that exist in the market and are available to any farmer without having to go through the dealer.”

That’s news to Jeremy Davis, owner of Firehouse Repair LLC in Palmer, one of a small number of independent equipment mechanics in central Nebraska. Before going out on his own in 2016, Davis worked for a decade at an equipment dealership, where “you take for granted you can get any software or service manual you need,” he says. “Now it’s really a struggle. We can’t even get basic wiring schematics for particular brands.”
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Jeremy Davis, owner of Firehouse Repair in Palmer, Neb. Smaller farm operations rely on him to keep older equipment, like this 1963 Deere model 4010, running.
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At least half the repairs Davis sees involve code faults triggered by emission-control systems. The faults render vehicles inoperable—a bit like a mouse incapacitating an elephant. He can replace the exhaust filters and particulate traps that throw a tractor’s codes, but dealerships won’t provide the software to restart it unless he or the owner hauls the machine in or pays for a mechanic to make a house call.

A few years ago, Davis paid $2,500 for a pirated version of John Deere’s 2014 Service Advisor software from someone in Hong Kong, but the discs are now long out of date.

Davis scoffs at a main industry argument against providing repair software to farmers and independent mechanics: that they’ll abuse it to disable emission-control systems. The incentive works the other way around, he says. Many farmers who own machines going off warranty delete the emission-system software to avoid costly future repairs—often with the backdoor assistance of the dealers, he says. If right-to-repair legislation led to more independent mechanics who could resolve faults quickly and easily, owners would have less motivation to disable emission controls, Davis says. “The way it is now is unfair to owners, and it’s unfair to me.”

To Kenney, the notion that farmers can’t work on their own tractors is an affront to the rugged individualism that built America. Raised on a central Nebraska farm, he was always passionate about machines. When he was 12, he and a friend rebuilt the transmission of his dad’s 1953 Studebaker pickup, racing to reassemble the parts in a single weekend before his parents returned from a trip.

He earned his agricultural engineering degree at the University of Nebraska in Lincoln, and he’ll still drive a dozen hours in a weekend to attend a Cornhusker football game. He’s angry with his alma mater, though, for no longer making agricultural engineering students get their hands greasy working on tractor engines. An administrator told Kenney, in an email exchange that still pains him, that engine repair is taught at community colleges now. “We couldn’t graduate if we didn’t know how to break down and rebuild a diesel engine,” he says.

After failing as a tenant farmer in the early 2000s, Kenney patented a design for a low-emission engine that burns diesel with a mix of ethanol and water. He couldn’t commercialize the so-called dual-fuel technology. In his mind, the big equipment manufacturers were making so much money rigging their conventional diesel motors with clumsy emission-control systems to meet U.S. Environmental Protection Agency standards that they had no interest in cleaner-burning alternatives. “I realized it all goes back to software,” Kenney says. “That was the beginning of my John Deere derangement syndrome.”

He now makes his living installing tractor software for a farm data company and tuning and tweaking trucks and tractors. His calling, however, is the right to repair. He’s spent the past four years turning conservative farmers against the corporate incarnation of motherhood and apple pie.

“If data gets out, negotiating powers are weakened. Farmers’ fears are very real. It’s not paranoia”
For Nebraska farmers, horror stories about tractors “bricking,” or shutting down from a computer fault, are as common as waterhemp in their cornfields—and just as annoying. A Deere spokesperson says, “Help is never more than a finger tap away,” referring to the communications equipment on modern farm implements. But getting a machine running again isn’t always quick.

Bill Blauhorn of Palmer lost half a day of harvesting corn while waiting for mechanics to drive 65 miles to his farm to reset the software on his 2017 Case IH combine. The machine’s emission-control system would repeatedly ice up on cold nights and in the morning throw a fault code that prevented it from starting. In 2018, Blauhorn was racing to bring in the harvest before an approaching windstorm when the system wouldn’t turn over. He says the five-hour wait for someone to show up and do a half-hour software fix contributed to a loss of at least 15% of the crop. Since then he doesn’t take chances.

“We just let the machine run all night,” he says.

Andrew McHargue’s tractor went down for an entire week during planting season while he waited for technicians to solve a problem. The Chapman, Neb., farmer paid $300,000 for the new machine in 2014, and over the next few years sank almost $8,000 into clearing fault codes. He finally mothballed the combine in favor of a 2010 model without the latest software and emission-control systems. The used tractor cost him an additional $160,000.

“I’m trying to sell the 2014, but nobody wants it,” says McHargue, a board member of Nebraska’s Merrick County Farm Bureau. “The whole disconnect is about who really owns it. If it’s mine, I should be able to modify and fix it myself. There’s no reason we shouldn’t have a repair system exactly like the auto industry’s.”

As things stand, Deere has the technical ability to remotely shut down a farmer’s machine anytime—if, say, the farmer missed a lease payment or tuned a tractor’s software to goose its horsepower, a common hack widely available through gray-market providers. A Deere spokesman says many manufacturers can remotely control vehicles they sell, but Deere has never activated this capability, except in construction equipment in China, where financing terms require it to.
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Green Line Equipment’s Grand Island location is one of the state’s 56 Deere dealerships.
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Equipment makers don’t just control farmers’ mechanical data. They also collect their production data right out from under their rear ends—unbeknownst to many tractor owners, Kenney says. “You should see their faces when I show them the SIM card under the seat. They go ballistic.”

In 2011, when Deere began gathering and transmitting production data from farmers’ machines, it didn’t immediately tell them. When they found out, some considered it a breach of trust, and some accused the company of appropriating proprietary information. Many growers regard their methods as trade secrets that give them an advantage over competitors when vying for terms with creditors and landlords. “If data gets out, negotiating powers are weakened,” says Terry Griffin, an agricultural economist at Kansas State University. “Farmers’ fears are very real. It’s not paranoia.”

There’s also a scramble for farmer data. Companies from startups to behemoths such as Bayer AG are racing to acquire it to help develop and sell their products. Aggregated in datasets covering millions of acres, the information can yield valuable insights about which seeds thrive in which soil types and with which fertilizers and pesticides.

Today, according to Sanchez, farmers control their own data and decide who has access to it. That appears to contradict a disclosure statement on Deere’s website, which says the company may share user data with its “affiliates and suppliers.” Equipment makers say farmers want the data support. The world’s No. 4 tractor maker, AGCO Corp., which makes Challenger and Massey Ferguson machinery, initially refused to disclose customers’ production data to anyone. It changed its policy after farmers asked for more data services. “Customers really want us to help them,” says Bill Hurley, an AGCO vice president.

Kenney worries more about security than privacy. He claims equipment makers’ remote control over vehicle software makes farmers—and the U.S. food supply—vulnerable to sabotage. His concerns have grounding. In 2016 the FBI issued a warning that U.S. agriculture is “increasingly vulnerable to cyberattacks as farmers become more reliant on digitized data.” What if a foreign adversary hacks Deere and shuts down thousands of tractors in the field? What if the internet or the electric grid is knocked out by a cyberattack or geomagnetic storm? Unable to restart their machines without dealer software, farmers might have no recourse but to watch as food production crawls to a halt.

Before closing time at Husker Harvest Days, Bruce Rieker, chief of government relations for the Nebraska Farm Bureau, sits down to talk in a breezeway behind his group’s pavilion. The bureau’s delegates have twice voted, almost unanimously, in favor of the right to repair. Yet after its staff spent months working with Kenney and a group of farmers to draft a state bill in late 2018, the Farm Bureau dropped it. Kenney says he was told they missed the filing deadline.

Rieker, who spent years as a Republican aide in Congress, says he’s the one who killed the proposal. Despite bipartisan support in Nebraska’s legislature, some powerful lawmakers didn’t want to take on Deere and the equipment lobby and told the two sides to settle their differences without legislation. “A lot of times I believe the best solution isn’t legislative or regulatory, it’s parties working things out,” he says.

Kenney and his collaborators are livid when told it was Rieker who aborted the legislation. “I feel stabbed in the back,” says Tom Schwarz, a Nebraska Farm Bureau leader who’d spent months working on the bill. “Why would we send that signal to the companies that you don’t need to worry about us—that we’re not going to take any action that threatens your revenue?” The Farm Bureau is negotiating with industry trade groups for farmers’ access to the same software provided to dealers. Progress has been limited, and the bureau voted in December to consider another bill in 2021. The Association of Equipment Manufacturers, trying to get ahead of actions like that, is coordinating a 2021 release of repair and diagnostic tools for farmers.

All this could be moot if legislation passes in one of the other states where Kenney and the right-to-repair movement have inspired bills. Prospects of passage this year look good in Massachusetts and New York, where farmers don’t use massive machines such as combines and the equipment lobby is less influential, says Gordon-Byrne of the Repair Association. “That will absolutely open the floodgates,” she says. “If you can buy software in Massachusetts, you’ll have it in Nebraska in milliseconds.”

Kenney, not the type to wait patiently, recently emailed Gordon-Byrne a photo of a 2017 Deere combine he’d proudly tuned up for a friend with an extra 50 horsepower using gray-market software. She wasn’t impressed. Such tweaking could fall outside copyright law and amount to theft of services, she warned him, because Deere sells higher horsepower models of the exact same machine. The only difference is the software setting. She wishes she had “100 Kevins,” she says, but a provocation like this probably isn’t good for the cause.

Kenney wasn’t buying it. He wrote back: “Gay, thanks but why was it OK years ago to pull the diesel engine fuel pump off, screw the horsepower up, put it back on, and run it with no consequences of ‘theft’? Just because these engines are now electronic vs. mechanical, we’ve lost our rights to repair and modify? Back in my day we truly believed, Hot-Rodding is a National Birthright.



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Interesting.

My interest in jailbreaking would be to 1) prevent Tesla from accessing my vehicle whenever they so choose. ( The argument of " if ya got nothing to hide then why worry" is as DUMB as "Freedom of speech/ the 1st Ammendment should be abolished/stricken from Society because I have nothing to say") 2) I want the "updates when I choose".- I have seen people whose actions were mightily interrupted because of an update 3) I will put in a feature that may add some extra security. 4) I would like to see what info is being uploaded 5) I want to STOP certain uploads ( see 1 above). 6) if I want to drive it w/out the computer "pinging my whereabouts" or "recording my speed" ( some insurance companies were looking at getting particular data on each driver [via computer recordings] to "raise/lower" their fees...) 7) I like driving and care not for A.I. assisted driving. 8) ....

I care NOT for their code or chip nonsense, anyhow I bet their are competitors who simply buy others products to reverse engineer them, including FSD, to see what they have or how it could be improved.

I maintain: I BUY IT IT IS MINE SO HANDS OFF MY SOCKS, SHIRT... VEHICLE, unless of course I give permission.
 
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Interesting.

My interest in jailbreaking would be to 1) prevent Tesla from accessing my vehicle whenever they so choose. ( The argument of " if ya got nothing to hide then why worry" is as DUMB as "Freedom of speech/ the 1st Ammendment should be abolished/stricken from Society because I have nothing to say") 2) I want the "updates when I choose".- I have seen people whose actions were mightily interrupted because of an update 3) I will put in a feature that may add some extra security. 4) I would like to see what info is being uploaded 5) I want to STOP certain uploads ( see 1 above). 6) if I want to drive it w/out the computer "pinging my whereabouts" or "recording my speed" ( some insurance companies were looking at getting particular data on each driver [via computer recordings] to "raise/lower" their fees...) 7) I like driving and care not for A.I. assisted driving. 8) ....

I care NOT for their code or chip nonsense, anyhow I bet their are competitors who simply buy others products to reverse engineer them, including FSD, to see what they have or how it could be improved.

I maintain: I BUY IT IT IS MINE SO HANDS OFF MY SOCKS, SHIRT... VEHICLE, unless of course I give permission.
Rich Benoît ( Rich Rebuilds) has already beat you to it when it comes to Tesla and the "Right to repair" He has a big Youtube channel.

He has a business called Electrified Garage with locations in New Hampshire and Florida
 

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I called it a couple days after the CT reveal. That is the number 1 feature I want in my CT. To have the capabilities of high speed internet pretty much anywhere I want to go. People always talk about the next "Tesla Killer" well, here is another "Industry killer"
I guess it will take a modification in how your subscription to Starlink will operate. “If you move your Starlink outside of its assigned cell, a satellite will not be scheduled to serve your Starlink and you will not receive internet.”
 

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I guess it will take a modification in how your subscription to Starlink will operate. “If you move your Starlink outside of its assigned cell, a satellite will not be scheduled to serve your Starlink and you will not receive internet.”
Currently yes. But more satellites are being put up all the time. Once the full configuration is in orbit, there should always be a satellite somewhere overhead. The next problem then has to do with keeping an unobstructed view while moving. Tunnels, bridges, trees, etc could periodically block the satellite view if you are driving around.

Makes me wonder what the solution for internet and phones will be in the Boring tunnels.
 

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Elon was saying
Currently yes. But more satellites are being put up all the time. Once the full configuration is in orbit, there should always be a satellite somewhere overhead. The next problem then has to do with keeping an unobstructed view while moving. Tunnels, bridges, trees, etc could periodically block the satellite view if you are driving around.

Makes me wonder what the solution for internet and phones will be in the Boring tunnels.
there would have to be antennas at both ends with some sort of high bandwidth repeater throughout and switches to cover multiple moving cars within the length of the tunnel.

Elan was saying that this is not going to perform well in highly populated areas. I am thinking it may work well for early adopters but if a Ton of city slickers try to use their CT as main source of their coverage at home and on the go, over time it may start showing performance problems.
 
 




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