Switched to Hankook Ion HT 275/65/20 on Cyberwheels to try & boost efficiency

[JerseyMike]

Next datapoint on range. Did a 1250 mile trip over the weekend, almost/all freeway, on FSD, Standard mode. Campbell to LA to Blythe to Campbell, all in CA. Included around 100 miles of off road driving, desert dirt roads.

My previous 23k miles average with the Pirelli Scorpions was 365.3 Wh/mi
Since getting the Hankook tires I now have 1779 miles at 381.9 Wh/mi
A decrease (or is that called increase) of 4.5%
Not too bad for a tire that is a lot cheaper and should have longer (twice?) the durability. Durability still to be proven though.

Now my lifetime numbers are 24,904 miles at 366.5 Wh/mi.

Just before going on this roadtrip I had 500 miles at 362.6Wh/mi, so the roadtrip cost quite some efficiency. Maybe because it was hot, so the airco was on all the time? Also I had the outlets on for a mini fridge and Starlink, not sure if that amount (it is not that much) is included in the numbers the truck reports?

Did you adjust for tire size? (34.1" v 34.6"....or 1.4% smaller with the ion HT)
I believe it would actually make it even less effecient.....I'm surprised that the light weight hancooks are less efficient than the pirellis (although the pirellis are light as well)

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[JerseyMike]

I was back and forth on this.....just bit the bullet (couldn't pass up the deal) 4 Hankook ion HT and install just over $1000 (amazon has them right now for $238 each and $25 for install locally)

 

[Granch]

I was back and forth on this.....just bit the bullet (couldn't pass up the deal) 4 Hankook ion HT and install just over $1000 (amazon has them right now for $238 each and $25 for install locally)

You can’t go wrong with that!
Discount tire will match and beat btw if you have one locally.

 

[JerseyMike]

You can’t go wrong with that!
Discount tire will match and beat btw if you have one locally.

Thanks, I wish but none nearby

amazon shipping to mavis near my house though…still easy enough

 

[GmP]

Did you adjust for tire size? (34.1" v 34.6"....or 1.4% smaller with the ion HT)
I believe it would actually make it even less effecient.....I'm surprised that the light weight hancooks are less efficient than the pirellis (although the pirellis are light as well)

No, I did not factor in the slightly smaller size. What I reported are the numbers straight from the truck. I do not know any setting that can tell the truck to use different ”distance for different tire sizes” settings.

My latest numbers are as of yesterday:
Hankook 3365 miles, at 372.7 Wh/mile, slightly improved from the 381.9 at 1779 miles. I assume just the mix of long freeway versus suburban driving? Or does ambient temperatures have an impact? Using your 1.4% the recalculated number would then be 378.2

My lifetime overall numbers are now 26490 miles at 366.3 Wh/mile (truck numbers); if I recalculate the miles on the HK it comes to 26443 at 366.9 Wh/mile

Not sure why the HK are less efficient as the Pirellis, but from reading the different threads here it was my expectation that this would the case.
Maybe Granch knows where the difference could come from:?

 

[Granch]

No, I did not factor in the slightly smaller size. What I reported are the numbers straight from the truck. I do not know any setting that can tell the truck to use different ”distance for different tire sizes” settings.

My latest numbers are as of yesterday:
Hankook 3365 miles, at 372.7 Wh/mile, slightly improved from the 381.9 at 1779 miles. I assume just the mix of long freeway versus suburban driving? Or does ambient temperatures have an impact? Using your 1.4% the recalculated number would then be 378.2

My lifetime overall numbers are now 26490 miles at 366.3 Wh/mile (truck numbers); if I recalculate the miles on the HK it comes to 26443 at 366.9 Wh/mile

Not sure why the HK are less efficient as the Pirellis, but from reading the different threads here it was my expectation that this would the case.
Maybe Granch knows where the difference could come from:?

I never tested Pirellis so I don’t have any data. They do have a different tread depth that could impact if I remember 9/32 vs 11/32 or 11/32 vs 13/32, AT would be worse.
For accurate comparison you would have needed to use a data logger like Tezlabs or Tessie or the new trips and do same speed and route similar weather and soc.
Highway will kill your efficiency regardless of tire especially the faster you go ie 80, 85mph.

Anything below 400kwh is fantastic and below rated.

Make sure the tires are cold inflated to 50psi. For best efficiency not less.

im in the mountains last 200+ plus and I am under 300kwh but speeds are 30-55 max in the Cyberbeast with out wheel covers.

I think my 4k+ miles on the tires is around 450 kWh vs 550kwh on the LTX. That’s 2 1100 mile trips at 75-85mph and come other driving.

I am still happy with the HK’s the LTX

 

[RayzorBEV]

No, I did not factor in the slightly smaller size. What I reported are the numbers straight from the truck. I do not know any setting that can tell the truck to use different ”distance for different tire sizes” settings.

My latest numbers are as of yesterday:
Hankook 3365 miles, at 372.7 Wh/mile, slightly improved from the 381.9 at 1779 miles. I assume just the mix of long freeway versus suburban driving? Or does ambient temperatures have an impact? Using your 1.4% the recalculated number would then be 378.2

My lifetime overall numbers are now 26490 miles at 366.3 Wh/mile (truck numbers); if I recalculate the miles on the HK it comes to 26443 at 366.9 Wh/mile

Not sure why the HK are less efficient as the Pirellis, but from reading the different threads here it was my expectation that this would the case.
Maybe Granch knows where the difference could come from:?

Probably because the Pirellis were co-developed with Tesla specifically for the Cybertrucks, that would be my guest as to why

 

[JerseyMike]

No, I did not factor in the slightly smaller size. What I reported are the numbers straight from the truck. I do not know any setting that can tell the truck to use different ”distance for different tire sizes” settings.

My latest numbers are as of yesterday:
Hankook 3365 miles, at 372.7 Wh/mile, slightly improved from the 381.9 at 1779 miles. I assume just the mix of long freeway versus suburban driving? Or does ambient temperatures have an impact? Using your 1.4% the recalculated number would then be 378.2

My lifetime overall numbers are now 26490 miles at 366.3 Wh/mile (truck numbers); if I recalculate the miles on the HK it comes to 26443 at 366.9 Wh/mile

Not sure why the HK are less efficient as the Pirellis, but from reading the different threads here it was my expectation that this would the case.
Maybe Granch knows where the difference could come from:?

The pirellis are light also and low rolling resistance but I just was hoping one size smaller would help efficiency

In terms of tire size I’m debating what I will do

Leaving it at 285/65/20 will be off by about 1.5%

If you set it to 18” wheels it will be closer (285/70/18)

Technically it is the same size as the original snow package that Tesla offers and that is an option but I wonder if the computer adjusts for braking and regen to snow tires when on that



My plan is to set it to 18” or the snows

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