cybertrucktruckguy
Well-known member
- First Name
- Todd
- Joined
- Jan 26, 2020
- Threads
- 31
- Messages
- 143
- Reaction score
- 509
- Location
- Kansas
- Vehicles
- 2018 Tacoma TRD Off Road, 2018 Tundra Limited, 2016 Honda Africa Twin
- Occupation
- Manager
Before I outline my thoughts on this topic, the most important thing to point to is the fact that those negative consumer report rankings have been updated for the 3 and S. Only the X remains on the consumer reports naughty list.
As to 'Quality' scores, I think it's important to think about the electro/mechanical systems as separate from the 'fit and finish' elements of the vehicle. As a truck guy, its really just a matter of time before I damage my truck. What I care about is that it runs when I need it.
On that point I offer these thoughts:
1. The video interviews with Sandy Monroe are really interesting on this front because he basically said of the original model 3 vehicles that the build quality was sub-par, but that the electro/mechanical systems were some of the most impressive he'd ever seen.
2. There seems to be a general trajectory of significant improvement on the build quality issues across the line for all the Tesla vehicles.
3. There are just far fewer 'failure points' on teslas than on ICE vehicles. Less places to fail SHOULD result in less failure.
4. Outside of the Tundra, all full size pickup trucks have mediocre reliability scores. I think part of this is how we use trucks. When you beat the crap out of something, bad things eventually happen. Part of the reason Toyotas are so bullet proof is that the 2019 models are almost exactly the same mechanically as the 2012 models. They evolve VERY slowly to achieve that amazing reliability.
5. If you want to be an early adopter, you should be prepared to deal with early adopter issues. My bet is that there's going to be some issues with the Gen 1 model. I think Tesla has learned a lot from their other models and that they designed the Cybertruck to be a monster but you don't know what you don't know. I believe in Tesla. I own the stock and I've reserved two Cybertrucks, but I'm not expecting perfection, I'm expecting to feel what it's like to ride the future before everyone else and that comes with some risks.
6. Despite their issues, used Teslas tend to have some of the highest resale values in their class. I don't expect that to change anytime soon. To me, that says something about their long term utility.
As to 'Quality' scores, I think it's important to think about the electro/mechanical systems as separate from the 'fit and finish' elements of the vehicle. As a truck guy, its really just a matter of time before I damage my truck. What I care about is that it runs when I need it.
On that point I offer these thoughts:
1. The video interviews with Sandy Monroe are really interesting on this front because he basically said of the original model 3 vehicles that the build quality was sub-par, but that the electro/mechanical systems were some of the most impressive he'd ever seen.
2. There seems to be a general trajectory of significant improvement on the build quality issues across the line for all the Tesla vehicles.
3. There are just far fewer 'failure points' on teslas than on ICE vehicles. Less places to fail SHOULD result in less failure.
4. Outside of the Tundra, all full size pickup trucks have mediocre reliability scores. I think part of this is how we use trucks. When you beat the crap out of something, bad things eventually happen. Part of the reason Toyotas are so bullet proof is that the 2019 models are almost exactly the same mechanically as the 2012 models. They evolve VERY slowly to achieve that amazing reliability.
5. If you want to be an early adopter, you should be prepared to deal with early adopter issues. My bet is that there's going to be some issues with the Gen 1 model. I think Tesla has learned a lot from their other models and that they designed the Cybertruck to be a monster but you don't know what you don't know. I believe in Tesla. I own the stock and I've reserved two Cybertrucks, but I'm not expecting perfection, I'm expecting to feel what it's like to ride the future before everyone else and that comes with some risks.
6. Despite their issues, used Teslas tend to have some of the highest resale values in their class. I don't expect that to change anytime soon. To me, that says something about their long term utility.
Sponsored
Last edited: