Video: Sandy Munro's Cybertruck first drive review & first impressions

[cvalue13]

Sandy: That's a cyber truck.


He said it has great visibility, better than any other vehicle. rip cval.

Ok I’ve now watched it and am left even more skeptical of Sandy these days

he says a few things I not just disagree with, but think objectively are hard to defend as reasonable

one way or other, he just doesn’t seem all there on this truck

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[cvalue13]

Actually, he literally did say it had the best visibility since a van.

saw that just now when watch it

PS: sounds like he also almost hit a front corner when leaving Tesla (and then he did later hit the corner when leaving that parking garage, before going to the off site watch party)

Good for Sandy if he thinks visibility is great when we can’t see out the back, the rear camera is mudded iver, he says he can’t see out of the side mirror, and then had two near/accidents with the front corners in less than 2hrs

And again, I’m not saying these are fundamental to the truck insofar as Tesla has and will improve these things with tech mitigations - but the native limitations are there

 

[Kahpernicus]

Ok I’ve now watched it and am left even more skeptical of Sandy these days

he says a few things I not just disagree with, but think objectively are hard to defend as reasonable

one way or other, he just doesn’t seem all there on this truck

Agreed.

 

[Kahpernicus]

Ok I’ve now watched it and am left even more skeptical of Sandy these days

he says a few things I not just disagree with, but think objectively are hard to defend as reasonable

one way or other, he just doesn’t seem all there on this truck

Agreed.

PS: honestly I’m surprised he never drove a Ford Aerostar before

You should be releasing NDA prototypes from Tesla.

 

[Jow]

today my younger buddy says “sandy’s getting old”. after watching these again i’m saying yep.
oh and love the beginning of this when he’s driving by and says there’s the cyberfactory, mmm-hmmm.

- jow

 

[Keeney]

Do not agree much with his conclusions about visibility either. Especially the rear. The main rear camera was unusable. The side mirror was also unusable for some reason (did he not bother to adjust it?).

I would be curious at the end where he said "truck buyers are not going to buy it" and "Ford has nothing to worry about".. What was he was basing that on?

 

[davelloydbrown]

I'm in the weeds here but are the mats that come with it?

Mats are extra- you can find them in the shop

https://shop.tesla.com/product/cybertruck-all-weather-interior-liners

 

[davelloydbrown]

haven't watched the video, but did he say it in same breath as how in less than 2hrs of driving he also ran the front end into a wall?


meanwhile, I’m out on Munro until he confirms or denies that he’s now contracted to work on the CyberTruck - as he said/suggested in the Musk interview

He was also afraid to drive in the parking garage because he couldn't see the front end.

 

[HaulingAss]

today my younger buddy says “sandy’s getting old”. after watching these again i’m saying yep.
oh and love the beginning of this when he’s driving by and says there’s the cyberfactory, mmm-hmmm.

- jow

You can't be "getting" old, if you are already old.

And everyone is getting older. As people age, they tend to become slower and less intelligent, but wiser and more knowledgable, even as they might have more trouble recalling specifics, like words and names.

It happens to farmers, movie stars, clergymen, YouTubers, and Nobel prize winners alike.

 

[Keeney]

You can't be "getting" old, if you are already old.

And everyone is getting older. As people age, they tend to become slower and less intelligent, but wiser and more knowledgable, even as they might have more trouble recalling specifics, like words and names.

It happens to farmers, movie stars, clergymen, YouTubers, and Nobel prize winners alike.

"I am not as good as I once was, but I am good once as I ever was."

 

[HaulingAss]

Do not agree much with his conclusions about visibility either. Especially the rear. The main rear camera was unusable. The side mirror was also unusable for some reason (did he not bother to adjust it?).

Sandy qualified his positive comments about the good visibility by saying, "at least to the front and sides", or something equivalent.

I would be curious at the end where he said "truck buyers are not going to buy it" and "Ford has nothing to worry about".. What was he was basing that on?

There are plenty of traditional pickup buyers who will be dead and gone before they ever warm up to something as radical as the Cybertruck. I think Sandy is either addressing how long it will take Tesla to get the Cybertruck above 250,000/year (one production line) or he is underestimating how large the impact is to companies like Ford and GM as sales in their most profitable market segment decline, even if it's only a 10% decline.

It's going to take a while for Cybertruck to take a big bite out of legacy automaker sales, but legacy automakers are going to feel it in an outsized manner when it comes to pickup trucks, their most profitable segment. I'm not sure why Sandy doesn't seem to get this, but maybe it's because he seems to categorize all pickup buyers into the same demographic, forgetting that the older buyers are steadily dying off or transitioning to smaller fixed incomes that can't afford full-sized trucks, and that the truck market depends upon new, younger buyers to replace those lost sales. A significant percentage of all buyers are dying to try something new, something better, something less expensive to keep on the road. It really just depends upon how long it takes Tesla to lower the prices. Price is a compelling changer of behavior.

 

[Keeney]

Sandy qualified his positive comments about the good visibility by saying, "at least to the front and sides", or something equivalent.



There are plenty of traditional pickup buyers who will be dead and gone before they ever warm up to something as radical as the Cybertruck. I think Sandy is either addressing how long it will take Tesla to get the Cybertruck above 250,000/year (one production line) or he is underestimating how large the impact is to companies like Ford and GM as sales in their most profitable market segment decline, even if it's only a 10% decline.

It's going to take a while for Cybertruck to take a big bite out of legacy automaker sales, but legacy automakers are going to feel it in an outsized manner when it comes to pickup trucks, their most profitable segment. I'm not sure why Sandy doesn't seem to get this, but maybe it's because he seems to categorize all pickup buyers into the same demographic, forgetting that the older buyers are steadily dying off or transitioning to smaller fixed incomes that can't afford full-sized trucks, and that the truck market depends upon new, younger buyers to replace those lost sales. A significant percentage of all buyers are dying to try something new, something better, something less expensive to keep on the road. It really just depends upon how long it takes Tesla to lower the prices. Price is a compelling changer of behavior.

For Ford, Lightning is already ~2% of F150 unit sales for 2023.
E-Transit is over 5% of Transit van unit sales in 2023.
Q3 2023 Sales Release

 

[HaulingAss]

For Ford, Lightning is already ~2% of F150 unit sales for 2023.
E-Transit is over 5% of Transit van unit sales in 2023.
Q3 2023 Sales Release

I'm not seeing your point.

On a mostly unrelated note, both the F-150 Lightning and the E-Transit van are sold at a large loss, so that's all the more reason it's going to hurt legacy auto acutely as the decline of their most profitable segment (ICE pickups and SUVs) accelerates.

 

[maaficook]

PS: honestly I’m surprised he never drove a Ford Aerostar before

The Aerostar was my jam in the early 90's! I loved that van...had two bench seats in the rear that folded down to make a whole bed! This was our first family camping van. Drove it from Oakland to New Jersey one summer, too. Mine was gold......

 

[cvalue13]

The Aerostar was my jam in the early 90's! I loved that van...had two bench seats in the rear that folded down to make a whole bed! This was our first family camping van. Drove it from Oakland to New Jersey one summer, too. Mine was gold......

mine was also gold

except for the front doors, which were each two other colors

and the rear benche seats were replaced with bean bags, and a a hookah bolted to the floor

Ahhh, to be a 16yo trailer park redneck again

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