Sponsored

Cybertruck factory option predictions

Arctic_White

Well-known member
First Name
Ray
Joined
Feb 8, 2021
Threads
4
Messages
372
Reaction score
605
Location
Edmonton, AB
Vehicles
Model S Plaid; CT on order
Country flag
Other than tires option, I suspect there will be no other option available. At least initially as Tesla ramps up.

No options means quicker production and therefore quicker delivery.

I also predict quad motors first with standard range. Battery is the limiting factor, not the motors.

Let's see how this post ages. LOL.
Sponsored

 

Deleted member 12457

Guest
Other than tires option, I suspect there will be no other option available. At least initially as Tesla ramps up.

No options means quicker production and therefore quicker delivery.

I also predict quad motors first with standard range. Battery is the limiting factor, not the motors.

Let's see how this post ages. LOL.
Motors--it depends on which rumor you believe. If Semi only getting 3 motors instead of 4, why does CT need 4? Three Plaid motors should be plenty, 4 would be overkill and unnecessary. I'd rather have more batteries than motors anyway.
 

Arctic_White

Well-known member
First Name
Ray
Joined
Feb 8, 2021
Threads
4
Messages
372
Reaction score
605
Location
Edmonton, AB
Vehicles
Model S Plaid; CT on order
Country flag
Motors--it depends on which rumor you believe. If Semi only getting 3 motors instead of 4, why does CT need 4? Three Plaid motors should be plenty, 4 would be overkill and unnecessary. I'd rather have more batteries than motors anyway.
Didn't Elon say Quad motors will be available and offered first?

I'd rather have more battery too, but given that the constraint is battery (and demand is already insane!), it makes sense for them to pump out as many cybertrucks as possible. So 300+ mile range is my guess. I'd be nice to get to 420-mile range. LOL.
 

CyberGus

Well-known member
First Name
Gus
Joined
May 22, 2021
Threads
91
Messages
10,248
Reaction score
33,926
Location
Austin, TX
Vehicles
1981 DeLorean, 2024 Cybertruck
Occupation
IT Specialist
Country flag
Motors--it depends on which rumor you believe. If Semi only getting 3 motors instead of 4, why does CT need 4? Three Plaid motors should be plenty, 4 would be overkill and unnecessary. I'd rather have more batteries than motors anyway.
Why would you want the inferior traction control and extra weight of a differential?
 

Deleted member 12457

Guest
Why would you want the inferior traction control and extra weight of a differential?
What differential? Model S Plaid front wheels are driven by one motor with a simple dual transaxle which weighs less than another motor. I'm not talking about a typical ICE rear end differential.
 


CyberGus

Well-known member
First Name
Gus
Joined
May 22, 2021
Threads
91
Messages
10,248
Reaction score
33,926
Location
Austin, TX
Vehicles
1981 DeLorean, 2024 Cybertruck
Occupation
IT Specialist
Country flag
What differential? Model S Plaid front wheels are driven by one motor with a simple dual transaxle which weighs less than another motor. I'm not talking about a typical ICE rear end differential.
Are you suggesting that the Model S does not use a differential, and that both wheels turn at the same speed when cornering??

You know that this is lighter than two motors, how? My understanding is that the two motor setup is lighter than the single-motor + gears.
 

JBee

Well-known member
First Name
JB
Joined
Nov 22, 2019
Threads
18
Messages
4,913
Reaction score
6,362
Location
Australia
Vehicles
Cybertruck
Occupation
. Professional Hobbyist
Country flag
Single plaid motor front drivetrain has differential otherwise it would be impossible steer. It would just go straight ahead.

Most people think it's the steering angle that makes a car turn, but in reality its mostly tyre rpm. For example: ESP can use the brakes and throttle to control the wheel rpm and the contact patch to steer in the opposite direction of the steering angle, by using "differential" like tank turns and accelerating one side while the other brakes.

Not sure if the differential weighs as much as a motor, but I'm thinking QM will have smaller motors anyway, so it might.
 

Deleted member 12457

Guest
Are you suggesting that the Model S does not use a differential, and that both wheels turn at the same speed when cornering??

You know that this is lighter than two motors, how? My understanding is that the two motor setup is lighter than the single-motor + gears.
Found this distinction between a differential and a transaxle--

"A transaxle is a single mechanical device which combines the functions of an automobile's transmission, axle, and differential into one integrated assembly. It can be produced in both manual and automatic versions."

I would call the mechanisms used on a single motor Tesla drive a transaxle, just like all the front-wheel drive ICE cars. Teslas have a set of transmission gears, axles, and the necessary differential all combined with the motor in one housing. This is what I meant to say in my post. They don't have a standalone differential, however.
 

Gvardaman

Well-known member
First Name
Guy
Joined
Jun 16, 2020
Threads
8
Messages
152
Reaction score
160
Location
Southern California
Vehicles
Tesla Model 3, BMW 330ci
Occupation
112,888.561
Country flag
I think the options will be:
? 2 motor
? 3 motor
? 4 motor

? Premium sound

? Quad Runner

? Street tires

standard features:
4WS
Tow hitch
Air suspension
High performance armrest
Glovebox
110/220 outlets
Air compressor
LASER headlights

Battery sizes linked to Motor options
I’d love to see a solar tonneau option, but I don’t think it will be ready at launch.
 
Last edited:

JBee

Well-known member
First Name
JB
Joined
Nov 22, 2019
Threads
18
Messages
4,913
Reaction score
6,362
Location
Australia
Vehicles
Cybertruck
Occupation
. Professional Hobbyist
Country flag
I think the most likely options will be:

- Battery pack size and range (maybe not at first but eventually)

- On road tyres
- Off road tires ;-)

- Black or white interior

All CT's will come standard with 4WS, 4WD, QM, Solar rear glass roof, refrigerated frunk and HVAC bed, no midgate (although I want one!), predictive on and off road, lean in turn active suspension, off road navigation, Cellular/Starlink messaging.
 


rr6013

Well-known member
First Name
Rex
Joined
Apr 22, 2020
Threads
54
Messages
1,679
Reaction score
1,615
Location
Coronado Bay Panama
Website
shorttakes.substack.com
Vehicles
1997 Tahoe 2 door 4x4
Occupation
Retired software developer and heavy commercial design builder
Country flag
Why would you want the inferior traction control and extra weight of a differential?
Differential drive unit is humungous sized gears. It’s going to pull 14000# trailer without so much as a grunt. Obviously, we haven’t seen those bearing iunder that much load but I like the nod to tried and proven.
Tesla Cybertruck Cybertruck factory option predictions C9FCBA75-553F-4872-90A0-C8ACFD6A09E1

Look at the size of that thing! They’ll never put that on the album cover.LOL

Compared to Quad drive unit the redesign efficiency is obvious, work duty cycle is not.
Tesla Cybertruck Cybertruck factory option predictions 36F3CFDB-BB59-482A-8F56-1CE373A4F415

The Gen2 drive unit bearings are gigantic but the gears are light truck compared to the early Gen1 drive unit.

Early Gen1 drive unit engineering pays the penalty for reliability required in commercial use. And the Gen1 provide more “flywheel” effect under a heavy duty work load. As an early adopter, Pays to be conservative.
 

JBee

Well-known member
First Name
JB
Joined
Nov 22, 2019
Threads
18
Messages
4,913
Reaction score
6,362
Location
Australia
Vehicles
Cybertruck
Occupation
. Professional Hobbyist
Country flag
Differential drive unit is humungous sized gears. It’s going to pull 14000# trailer without so much as a grunt. Obviously, we haven’t seen those bearing iunder that much load but I like the nod to tried and proven.
C9FCBA75-553F-4872-90A0-C8ACFD6A09E1.jpeg

Look at the size of that thing! They’ll never put that on the album cover.LOL

Compared to Quad drive unit the redesign efficiency is obvious, work duty cycle is not.
36F3CFDB-BB59-482A-8F56-1CE373A4F415.jpeg

The Gen2 drive unit bearings are gigantic but the gears are light truck compared to the early Gen1 drive unit.

Early Gen1 drive unit engineering pays the penalty for reliability required in commercial use. And the Gen1 provide more “flywheel” effect under a heavy duty work load. As an early adopter, Pays to be conservative.
Buddy, where are you getting the that quad motor drive info and pictures from? Is it legit?
 

Deleted member 12457

Guest
Buddy, where are you getting the that quad motor drive info and pictures from? Is it legit?
Looks like an axial flux electric motor. I thought I read Mercedes was using them. I found several websites with these types of motors, especially for EV airplanes.
 

JBee

Well-known member
First Name
JB
Joined
Nov 22, 2019
Threads
18
Messages
4,913
Reaction score
6,362
Location
Australia
Vehicles
Cybertruck
Occupation
. Professional Hobbyist
Country flag
Differential drive unit is humungous sized gears. It’s going to pull 14000# trailer without so much as a grunt. Obviously, we haven’t seen those bearing iunder that much load but I like the nod to tried and proven.
C9FCBA75-553F-4872-90A0-C8ACFD6A09E1.webp

Look at the size of that thing! They’ll never put that on the album cover.LOL

Compared to Quad drive unit the redesign efficiency is obvious, work duty cycle is not.
36F3CFDB-BB59-482A-8F56-1CE373A4F415.webp

The Gen2 drive unit bearings are gigantic but the gears are light truck compared to the early Gen1 drive unit.

Early Gen1 drive unit engineering pays the penalty for reliability required in commercial use. And the Gen1 provide more “flywheel” effect under a heavy duty work load. As an early adopter, Pays to be conservative.
Ok Ok. You got me! This is the Lucid Air drivetrain. :)

It might not be Teslas, but it's interesting for comparisons sake anyway so I made a new thread to discuss here:

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...e-in-a-quad-motor-variant-pros-and-cons.5545/
Sponsored

 
 








Top