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My MY also doesn't make a noise at low speed going forward. If I'm sitting there parked but in drive and then creep forward there is no indication. You can hear it switching from park to drive, but that's all.
Probably a few years old. My 2018 Model 3 doesn't have PWS noise either. That law got mandated around September, 2020. @Gurule92 implied it was across the board, but older EVs do not have to be retrofitted.
And I have to admit, in pedestrian heavy areas such as parking lots, people will walk in the center driving area, and they have NO IDEA I'm behind them. Could easily go people bowling if I wanted to! As long as the CT has a PWS noise that isn't lame, I will concede it is probably a good idea. Jetsons car, UFO, spaceship, t-rex, something like that, please!
 

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Probably a few years old. My 2018 Model 3 doesn't have PWS noise either. That law got mandated around September, 2020. @Gurule92 implied it was across the board, but older EVs do not have to be retrofitted.
And I have to admit, in pedestrian heavy areas such as parking lots, people will walk in the center driving area, and they have NO IDEA I'm behind them. Could easily go people bowling if I wanted to! As long as the CT has a PWS noise that isn't lame, I will concede it is probably a good idea. Jetsons car, UFO, spaceship, t-rex, something like that, please!
Not it's not.

Your car. And all Teslas with the PWS emit sounds under 15 miles per hour.

No one said fake engine sounds.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_cn/GUID-5D8F5B42-90F9-4ED7-9B36-A54BFED1030C.html
The MX was either too old to have PWS or it was disabled (which is possible).

Or you just didn't hear it.

It's like white noise
Did I imply that?

If a Tesla makes PWS sounds in reverse. It makes them in drive is what I was trying to imply. They just come from the front passenger area and are not loud so drivers don't hear them typically.

I used to use the Jetsons spaceship car sounds. Was awesome.. darn regulators
 


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even with the cameras working, I think rearward visibility in the CT is going to have a learning curve.
Nah. The Model Y has such abysmal rear visibility through the rear window that I don't even bother looking at the rearview mirror any longer.
 

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Nah. The Model Y has such abysmal rear visibility through the rear window that I don't even bother looking at the rearview mirror any longer.
Nothing behind you but cops anyway
 

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Nah. The Model Y has such abysmal rear visibility through the rear window that I don't even bother looking at the rearview mirror any longer.
visibility can be a *bit* more needed when swinging around a full sized truck
 

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visibility can be a *bit* more needed when swinging around a full sized truck
I drive one every day. Can't wait for a truck that has a turning radius smaller than an aircraft carrier.
 


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I drive one every day. Can't wait for a truck that has a turning radius smaller than an aircraft carrier.
same!

even in my F150, rearward visibility is poor, and one relies on eg the backup cameras

basically, the CT comes stock with the sort of rearward visibility found in an F150 with a camper shell on back

what may differentiate, is the “glance over shoulder” visibility to the R/L rear quarters
 

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what may differentiate, is the “glance over shoulder” visibility to the R/L rear quarters
That may be true but as people age, their ability to "glance over shoulder" is diminished somewhat.

The same goes for eyes... Older people tend to move their eyes less and their heads more to see to the sides. When you add the immobility of eyes with immobility of the head, overall vision awareness lowers. It's only the lowering of aggressive driving that levels the field when it comes to accidents.

Try making the biggest circle your eyes can make without moving your head. Feels like the muscles are being stretched for the first time in a long time?

Ah, aging... It sucks but it beats the alternative. ?
 

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That may be true but as people age, their ability to "glance over shoulder" is diminished somewhat.

The same goes for eyes... Older people tend to move their eyes less and their heads more to see to the sides. When you add the immobility of eyes with immobility of the head, overall vision awareness lowers. It's only the lowering of aggressive driving that levels the field when it comes to accidents.

Try making the biggest circle your eyes can make without moving your head. Feels like the muscles are being stretched for the first time in a long time?

Ah, aging... It sucks but it beats the alternative. ?
raises an interesting point RE eyesight and video screens replacing mirrors, which I read about recently and hadn’t appreciated

apparently, mirrors work seamlessly with corrected vision: if you can see far away (or your vision is corrected to see far away) in general, then you can make out far away details in a mirror

but video screens don’t work that way. folks could need ‘readers’ /bifocals to make out the video projections on the nearby screen

wonder if anyone here has dealt with that
 

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raises an interesting point RE eyesight and video screens replacing mirrors, which I read about recently and hadn’t appreciated

apparently, mirrors work seamlessly with corrected vision: if you can see far away (or your vision is corrected to see far away) in general, then you can make out far away details in a mirror

but video screens don’t work that way. folks could need ‘readers’ /bifocals to make out the video projections on the nearby screen

wonder if anyone here has dealt with that
Actually, I fit into that category. I've had Lasik and can see far away just fine. The screens are okay for me but if they were any closer, I'd have a tougher time seeing the finer print. I KNOW that when I look at a screen, the distance I'm seeing is just from my eye to the screen. In a mirror (I might be looking like an ass if I'm wrong), my vision distance is from my eyes, to the mirror, and to the item. In other words, the picture looks far in mirrors but close on screens. I could see (see what I did there?) people having issues with screens who don't have issues with mirrors. Plus, refocusing every once in a while to check speed or such isn't the same as having to constantly change your focus every time you want to look in a mirror. That could be tiring.
 

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Actually, I fit into that category. I've had Lasik and can see far away just fine. The screens are okay for me but if they were any closer, I'd have a tougher time seeing the finer print. I KNOW that when I look at a screen, the distance I'm seeing is just from my eye to the screen. In a mirror (I might be looking like an ass if I'm wrong), my vision distance is from my eyes, to the mirror, and to the item. In other words, the picture looks far in mirrors but close on screens. I could see (see what I did there?) people having issues with screens who don't have issues with mirrors. Plus, refocusing every once in a while to check speed or such isn't the same as having to constantly change your focus every time you want to look in a mirror. That could be tiring.
all consistent with what I’ve read, thanks

far as your eyes are concerned, the picture is actually far in a mirror but close on a screen

rear views aren’t big
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