Cybertruck with LED light bar and in high suspension mode spotted at charging station

[KuMX]

More photos of light bar by @bwwillett

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[Bkb13]

Looks great in that stance!

 

[CyberSurgeon]

Love the light bar

 

[tmeyer3]

if it could have been incorporated inside of the windshield i might have opted in

I wonder how much it would reduce visibility if incorporated behind the windshield.

 

[tmeyer3]

they would need to design the windshield for it, in which case, it shouldn't have any adverse effects.

Probably not, yeah. I mean the 2 big things with high intensity lights are heat and glare. No hood to bounce light off, so that's nice.

 

[cvalue13]

So he’s raised that up while parked to show off that height

because you’re not able to cruise it at that speed, out of offroad mode, at more than like 30mph

open question of what risk one runs by leaving the truck in offroad mode on pavement/higher speeds

 

[cvalue13]

possible drive shaft / joint damage due to non-optimal geometry, tire wear on outside edges, and maybe driving stability and handling issues.

Oh, there’s no doubt about the possible wear issues from camber! If that’s what you’re mostly driving at.

I’m just less certain of whether the “off road” setting might additionally cause issues. I would know the answer to this if it were a more traditional 4WD system (eg drivetrain binding and transmission windup), but with the CT I’m not sure what all “offroad” mode actually changes in the driveline, etc., of these trucks(!?)

 

[ÆCIII]

Wonder if that is the max height or full 17 inches of ground clearance? Looks like it could go a little higher but still awesome as it is.

Ironically even at raised suspension height, the Cybertruck will likely still handle great compared to lift kit raised ICE trucks, because the center of gravity will still be lower with the battery pack weight in the bottom. Will be interesting to see that tested in curves when someone can do it.

As far as that goes, a raised Lightning or R1T should still handle pretty well too.

- ÆCIII

 

[Celiboy]

So he’s raised that up while parked to show off that height

because you’re not able to cruise it at that speed, out of offroad mode, at more than like 30mph

open question of what risk one runs by leaving the truck in offroad mode on pavement/higher speeds

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but I believe Jason Cammisa mentioned in one of his interviews that during their shoot they ran in “Off-road” mode and when cornering it felt to him like the wheels had come off the ground and scared the ? outa him lol.

 

[cvalue13]

Wonder if that is the max height or full 17 inches of ground clearance? Looks like it could go a little higher but still awesome as it is.

that is not extraction mode

~this is extraction mode

Ironically even at raised suspension height, the Cybertruck will likely still handle great compared to lift kit raised ICE trucks, because the center of gravity will still be lower with the battery pack weight in the bottom. Will be interesting to see that tested in curves when someone can do it.

not exactly how it works, if you’re comparing an ICE truck lifted correctly

sure, COG will always be lower in a BEV, but suspensions are set up for that in both cases

Most you can say is CT will “handle better where issues of COG issues alone are concerned”


in any event, a CT in raised height will also NOT “handle” as well, net, as a correctly lifted ICE truck, insofar as a correctly lifted ice truck’s camber and drivelines have been adjusted for the height

in adaptive suspension, driving at speeds for distances (and in corners) in raised modes is not great for the truck

which is why Tesla (and every other OEM with adjustable air height) software limits the vehicles by speed (and sometimes also distance), forcing the car to lower to correct camber, etc., for that type of driving

 

[ÆCIII]

I would think camber only does so much considering it moves the COG toward center only a few inches, but I agree it definitely is a difference. We have to realize that camber is already built-in to the Cybertruck too, albeit it doesn't increase when raised like some lift-kits would do (AFAIK). By contrast the weight of the battery at bottom puts a majority of weight a foot or two lower compared to what's above it. So I'm thinking the battery significantly lowering the COG will be a big difference, but probably best to wait for actual test comparisons, which is why I used the word 'likely'. But I'm also realizing that the battery extra weight, even if at a lower COG than an ICE truck, could still cause significant roll force in fast turns if raised a good bit higher than the road.

It will be interesting when we can get someone to do comparison tests on the best of each. I wish Jason Camisa or Mat Watson had did this during their reviews. That go-kart track Jason Camisa took the Cybertruck on would've been a great spot to test at least part of that.

Yet I think the Cybertruck would have serious problems too, if someone attempted additional lift with a kit, or increasing width of tires significantly, or widening the stance with spacers, because those modifications might cause problems with the steer-by-wire alignments and calibrations, as well as other software controlled behaviors. But, with the 12 inches of lift already available, most people's needs are already met unless the owner is specifically doing off-road stuff on crazy terrain.

So, probably something I've not learned yet, but are there actually software limited maximum speeds for different suspension heights on the Cybertruck? I think I saw that Mat Watson noticed that Reverse has a max speed of 15 mph at any level. I didn't hear anything about speed restrictions at raised suspension heights, though I could've missed something.

Has anyone or Tesla posted a copy of the Cybertruck Owners Manual online yet? Maybe that's what I missed.

- ÆCIII

 

[WHIZZARD OF OZ]

Looks great in that stance!

Can't wait to see one 'slammed'.....
Someone is bound to mod the CT to 'Lowrider'
I like the factory 17" underbody clearance, along with the ability to drop to ~8 inches!

 

[cvalue13]

I would think camber only does so much considering it moves the COG toward center only a few inches, but I agree it definitely is a difference.

seems we’re talking past one-another

I don’t find your point about COG terribly interesting or important when it comes to CT’s “handling”

yea, all else being equal, a car with low COG can “handle” better than an identical car with higher COG

but my point was that all else is not equal

Particularly with adjustable heights air suspensions, “handling” (and mechanical wear) will be increasingly worse with increased height, regardless of how low COG is

which is why…

So, probably something I've not learned yet, but are there speed limits for certain or maximum suspension heights on the Cybertruck? I think I saw that Mat Watson noticed that Reverse has a max speed of 15 mph at any level. I didn't hear anything about speed restrictions at raised suspension heights, though I could've missed something.

… yes, there are speed limits to the differing ride heights

for anything higher than ‘normal’, the height will be speed limited and automatically return to ‘normal’ if exceeded (sustained). With each increased height, the relevant speed limit is lowered (unless in offroad mode).

because, well, “handling” is an issue (regardless of low COG)

Has anyone or Tesla posted a copy of the Cybertruck Owners Manual online yet? Maybe that's what I missed.

owners manual isn’t published yet

source: me

 

[Cenakaze]

I don't think medium or high is speed limited.

Otherwise, Baja mode makes no sense, since the suspension is set to high in that mode iirc

 

[cvalue13]

I don't think medium or high is speed limited.

Otherwise, Baja mode makes no sense, since the suspension is set to high in that mode iirc

With each increased height, the relevant speed limit is lowered (unless in offroad mode).

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