WTH is Tesla doing....

[MonkeyDeLuffy]

You want to postpone the delivery at least to the second half of 2024, all things considered, especially if you are holding inventory of equity. I would purposely defer my delivery by choosing cyberbeast if I got the invite now.

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[CyberMoose]

While I understand the frustration. I think it's a little over the top. The people 10's of thousands of spots behind you are not cutting in line 10's of thousands of spots.

Reservation numbers are not Cybertruck reservation numbers. They are Tesla reservation numbers. There are people with reservation orders millions of spots behind us, but that doesn't mean there are millions of Cybertruck reservations, most of those are for the 3/Y. Even the estimated ≈2,000,000 reservations placed isn't 2,000,000 reservations currently out there. I'm positive countless people, probably into the 100's of thousands, canceled their orders before the delivery event because they either went with another option in the competition, or they changed their mind, or they couldn't save up the money that they were planning on. And of course more people canceled after they seen the $60,000 starting price.

Even once we factor those people out and think about only committed buyers, we still can't even include the future RWD buyers which will probably make up the majority of future Cybertruck sales.

The remaining buyers left, when you factor out reservation numbers of other models, people that canceled, and people that are buying the RWD, will be a much much much smaller number. Those 10's of thousands of people between you and the people getting the option to order, could be hundreds or even just dozens. It's impossible to know about the reservation numbers between you and them, it could just be all model 3 reservations that were fulfilled years ago.

I don't think Tesla really cares much about how influential people are or how much stock they own. If they want to give an earlier order to someone specific, like Sandy Munro, good for them. I will actually be really happy to have that content on youtube. But it doesn't seem like any youtubers have been given any preferential treatment for actual deliveries (though I hope Sandy does).

 

[Green-Mario]

All this angst (stamp your feet and hold your breath) is pointless. I also ordered very early but never expected that $100 bucks was good for anything other than a "possible" early get. I was promised nothing specific including price. Elon once responded to a question about the best time to buy a new model vehicle and he said, either initial production when the line speed is slow and QA is high or, wait till production ramp up is over and vehicles are flowing out of the machine that makes the machines.

I have decided to wait until CT production is stable and optimized before placing an actual order with a real down payment, not a chump change "Reservation" fee. They should be more readily available and, not have that stupid Foundation order up-charge. In fact, I'm pretty confident that I will be able to gat a DM model for $65-$70K in 2025-2026 and I fine with that. In the meantime, I'll be driving an EV and enjoying all the benefits that affords.

If you didn't expect that $100 was good for anything... why on Earth would you pay it? $100 isn't much, but it is not chump change. This was not an "email me when available" button like Apple does for their products that are further away than 10 days from delivery.

Where did it say that the $100 deposit was just for the slight off chance that you might be selected from the pool to maybe have the privilege to be invited to order a CT. But only if you are lucky and smile about it.

The $100 deposit was for a reservation. It was a $ commitment for a place in line. Why is it that folks feel the need to defend terrible practices like this with defenses like this? That is wonderful that you are deciding to wait, and it may be a great decision. However, if you put in an order early and paid your deposit and waited, your Res# should not be passed up. You should be offered the FS, and you should then elect to wait.

You only jumped to give Tesla $100 early for a reason. That reason is not what you are now proclaiming. You, along with everyone else throwing $ down on announcement day did so expecting to get in line. Otherise, Tesla should not have taken $

 

[Green-Mario]

While I understand the frustration. I think it's a little over the top. The people 10's of thousands of spots behind you are not cutting in line 10's of thousands of spots.

Reservation numbers are not Cybertruck reservation numbers. They are Tesla reservation numbers. There are people with reservation orders millions of spots behind us, but that doesn't mean there are millions of Cybertruck reservations, most of those are for the 3/Y. Even the estimated ≈2,000,000 reservations placed isn't 2,000,000 reservations currently out there. I'm positive countless people, probably into the 100's of thousands, canceled their orders before the delivery event because they either went with another option in the competition, or they changed their mind, or they couldn't save up the money that they were planning on. And of course more people canceled after they seen the $60,000 starting price.

Even once we factor those people out and think about only committed buyers, we still can't even include the future RWD buyers which will probably make up the majority of future Cybertruck sales.

The remaining buyers left, when you factor out reservation numbers of other models, people that canceled, and people that are buying the RWD, will be a much much much smaller number. Those 10's of thousands of people between you and the people getting the option to order, could be hundreds or even just dozens. It's impossible to know about the reservation numbers between you and them, it could just be all model 3 reservations that were fulfilled years ago.

I don't think Tesla really cares much about how influential people are or how much stock they own. If they want to give an earlier order to someone specific, like Sandy Munro, good for them. I will actually be really happy to have that content on youtube. But it doesn't seem like any youtubers have been given any preferential treatment for actual deliveries (though I hope Sandy does).

While this might be true for reservations made over the years, these order #s are from people who placed day of or within a handful of hours, like myself. There were not many other orders placed that were not CT when these numbers went from 11274 - 1128/1129 in an hour. All those were CTs

Again, this is a problem for me because there are people in my state and area getting this order offer before me when I have an order ahead of theirs. Why would Tesla skip some, and offer to others? There is no rhyme or reason to that, despite what you yourself plan to do in terms of waiting or not.

 

[cvalue13]

If you didn't expect that $100 was good for anything... why on Earth would you pay it? $100 isn't much, but it is not chump change.

It *is* "good for something"


It's just not as good as you wished/assumed/dreamed/imagined

 

[CyberTW]

*gestures broadly at a forum full of information*

This guy is acting as entitled as my toddler. Fascinating to see a grown up so unhinged

 

[HaulingAss]

I know Tesla's history, and how they have done early ordering in the past. I tick absolutely every. single. box for past decision making data points.

They know full well that I have owned and do own multiple Teslas. They see my order history. They see my referrals. They even know how many shares of the company I hold! There is 0 reason why I shouldn't have been invited to order. This is not the same thing Tesla has done in the past. Based on whats happening and going on here in the forums, I appear to be an odd one out too. So many are getting these invites, yet very few seem to be in my boat.

Empty handed and without a single reason why I would be passed up for ordering.

Ummm...your profile says you are located in Hawaii so that would be normal that you are not in the front of the line.

 

[Green-Mario]

This guy is acting as entitled as my toddler. Fascinating to see a grown up so unhinged

So its unreasonable to be frustrated or upset about this?

Seriously, what is wrong with my frustration here?

 

[Green-Mario]

Ummm...your profile says you are located in Hawaii so that would be normal that you are not in the front of the line.

Is Tesla looking at what my Forum location is to determine invites?

I take it you didn't read anything.

 

[PilotPete]

While this might be true for reservations made over the years, these order #s are from people who placed day of or within a handful of hours, like myself. There were not many other orders placed that were not CT when these numbers went from 11274 - 1128/1129 in an hour. All those were CTs

Again, this is a problem for me because there are people in my state and area getting this order offer before me when I have an order ahead of theirs. Why would Tesla skip some, and offer to others? There is no rhyme or reason to that, despite what you yourself plan to do in terms of waiting or not.

Ok, I'm not a social media influenza, or a parent/child/relative/neighbor of anyone anyway involved with Tesla. I don't own a Tesla. I'm not defending Tesla. But please allow me to make a couple points.

Regarding your RN;

• Do you have any documentation from Tesla that says they will or even will try to go "in order"?
• By Tesla's standards, is "in order" based on RN number sequentially? The day of the RN? The week of the RN? The month of the RN? The year of the RN?
• Do you have anything from Tesla that says there are no other factors, other than the RN, that affect the order in which these offers are made?
• Is there any document from Tesla that says those with an RN are entitled to get their reservation fulfilled ahead of the general public?
• Is there any evidence that those with RN numbers greater than yours, indicating they made their reservation after you, that they are telling the truth?
• Have you EVER seen some jack-wagon on the internet post a lie, just to get under the skin of someone they don't know, have never met, never will meet?
• Was anyone filling out an internet form regarding their RN and/order placement sworn to tell the truth under penalty of perjury? Or even a really bad yelp review?

There are people on here who have made multiple reservations who are stating their later reservation was picked ahead of their first reservation. If true, it indicates there is some sort of randomness to the selection, or at least Tesla only generally care about RN numbers.

Are you mad a Tesla because they didn't do it the way they said they would, or they didn't do it the way you thought they should/would?

Again, not defending anyone, just trying to be realistic here.

 

[HaulingAss]

So its unreasonable to be frustrated or upset about this?

Seriously, what is wrong with my frustration here?

Two things:

1) Don't worry about things that are beyond your control.
2) Nobody ever said your reservation number was absolute. Not even Ford or GM does it that way.

I guess I can forgive your impatience since it seems you didn't understand that. I mean, not even a month has gone by since Tesla delivered the first ten Cybertrucks.

 

[Eye of Elon]

Getting furious over here. Now there are multiple example of people with reservations behind mine that have gotten invitations to order. I am in CO and have 2 reservations. Stock holder, owned multiple teslas.... WTAF

Tesla has made this among the most disappointing things in my life. After 4 years of excitement and waiting patiently they f^%king skip me??? WTF! It wasn't free either. I placed $ down 4 years ago for my spot in line, and they are straight up passing over me. I am furious.

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Seriously... WTF Tesla.

Anyone else just baffled about what is happening here?? There are not confirm CO orders that are 10s of thousands behind me in the queue. My heart is broken.

I think you cancel as a protest of this injustice.

My opinion has nothing to do with the fact that those numbers are a little ahead of mine. It's about justice.

 

[Green-Mario]

Thanks for the info and perspective. Given your experience, what do you think is driving invitations? Its not RN, it is location based certainly, however why are some getting invitations in an area while others are not. Considering they both have early paid deposits, although some are days apart. Again, this forum is not 100% ground truth. I personally know 2 others I convinced to place an order for CT the day after the event who have been invited, and have ordered. We all live in the same area, and would pick up from the same service center.

I have 2 orders ahead of theirs, both in RN and reservation time. Location factor is equal, I am the only one with any Tesla history and it made 0 difference. There is far less of a "secret sauce" and more of a throw stuff at the wall sort of approach to this. How is it a hot take to think that is a poor approach and will result in frustration like this?

 

[CyberTW]

So its unreasonable to be frustrated or upset about this?

Seriously, what is wrong with my frustration here?

I get you are frustrated. But do you know their process? Do you know for a fact they are just throwing darts against the wall for numbers? Read through your posts. You make it sound like you are a VIP, and expect VIP treatment.
Then you shot back at @cvalue13 who is one is the top and trusted posters here.
you just sound super pissed over something you have no control over nor have any inside info on how the process works. I mean, vent away, fine with me. It comes across different than you might be able to step back and see.

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