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Range for AWD Cybertruck 200-250 miles after many real world tests

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Not my truck or video, but was from one of the many road trip vids coming in. Battery warm and 20 mile test was form one super charger to another, believe less than 1,000 total elevation. It is late Dec so I assume sub 50F.

As far as useful info....... I think the below is WAY more than we have gotten for the past 4 years, and is better than the 810 Wh/mi from the other video (which would put CT range at 151.2 miles)

It is not perfect but considering there has been a complete lack of real world range #s for over a month since the release these early real world range numbers are informative, albeit depressing.

Average speed of 63 MPH
Mostly highway driving
689 Wh/mi
Giving the AWD Cybertruck a range of 178.5 miles

*Notes*
2 Passengers
2 Carry on size suitcasestonneau
Tonneau cover closed
Minimal HVAC
Nothing being towed/hauled
Frankly, I got turned off by these stats.
178 miles range is no starter to me. My turn is still 2 years away but if there's no better news by then, I'll cancel my order. I'm disgusted.
 

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You haven’t any diesels or hybrids then
But this is extremely low range. My BMW was not far from the EPA estimate and my place goes up and down on 2,000 feet elevation. Discouraging if not improved.
 

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Very disappointing if true.

I have owned a Model Y for almost 3-years and 48k miles. I can verify that Tesla’s battery range estimates are extremely optimistic. I consistently get 15-20% less range than what the vehicle was rated for.
 

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It should be pointed out with every new Tesla model: The numbers (efficiency and range) will improve as the company gets more mileage on the road from each customer. My 2017 Tesla MS 75D, arrived with x miles of range but after updates over the first year I got more range than when delivered. And after 114k miles, I still have more range than I did when I took delivery.
(Just thought I’d share my experience.)
Also, all the drive shafts have two sets of bearings, all the wheels have two sets of bearings, all the motors have two sets of bearings, etc. Bearings need to wear in to get to their fastest state. Most of these bearings have at least one side exposed to weather and have rubber seals that cause excessive drag until they wear in. All Terain tires have deep lugs that cause more drag when new than after they are worn smoother.

It's normal for an EV with 10,000 miles on the odometer to be considerably more efficient than it was upon delivery.

Also, tire pressure plays a big role in efficiency, and it seems no one understands this these days. I can't count the number of clueless people I've seen claim they were running at the recommended tire pressures when, in fact, they were only at the recommended pressure once the tires came up to operating temperature (recommnded pressure is always relevant to tires that are stone cold, first thing in the morning). This makes a huge difference in efficiency.

People are so lazy now days, and so stupid, they see the low pressure on the display and think, "That's OK, after I drive a few miles the air pressure will be perfect!", LOL! It's like they don't know what "cold pressure" means, even though it's self-explanatory.

Never trust third party range tests, you have to do it yourself under controlled conditions. Many Youtube range tests are biased and endlessly publicized to dissuade more people from upgrading to their first electric vehicle. Because they know once people buy their first EV, there is no going back for most of them. Even many Youtubers with generally good reputations have some anti-Tesla sentiments they keep hidden but that come out in subtle ways in their range tests.

My wife's Model 3 has 92,000 miles over nearly 6 years of real-world driving, mostly in Washington State, and her average efficiency is 232 Wh/mile, much better than the published EPA consumption figures. She blasts the heater when it's cold, drives through rain and cold drizzle half the year, and never hesitates to blast the A/C on hot days. I maintain her tire pressure at 46 psi, 2 psi above the original recommended pressure of 44 psi and 4 psi above the current recommendation of 42 psi (that came about because customers were complaining about how firm the ride was). We don't do this to save on electricity as we only pay $0.10/kWh, we do it because at 46 psi we get the best accident avoidance manueverability. The higher pressure prevents the sidewalls from tucking under during sharp avoidance manuevers and provides the best steering feel.
 


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Why would you think these are FUD? It is adhoc data and to be taken as such...and is most welcome.
Adhoc data means data that was created/recorded/published for a specific purpose.

The problem is, we have no way to tell what the specific purpose was.
 
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I found one of these studies and it’s more nuanced than 10%.

7% frequently tow
29% occasionally tow

That’s 36% or people who tow at least occasionally….

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For purposes of determining how suitable an EV is for towing, it doesn't matter how often someone tows, it matters whether the towing is in a local area or over-the-road towing through multiple states.

My observation is most pickup owners don't tow on the open road, they use it to haul around equipment and building materials in their local area. The Cybertruck has superior towing dynamics/safety and will be superior for such typical uses, even with equipment or building materials approaching the 11,000 lbs. tow rating.
 

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Maybe, just maybe Tesla should have given the truck to people like Out Of Spec and TFL. Then we would get good numbers right off the bat.
And if Tesla claims that the truck gets 340 miles of range then dammit the truck should get that in the worst conditions! It shouldn’t be “well it gets that in perfect conditions with a standard atmosphere when all the planets are in alignment”.
And to all the naysayers that say you don’t need more range because the average person only drives 40 some miles aday, well then why not make a battery pack that only has a 40 mile range. You don’t need to lug around the extra 300 miles of batteries day in and day out. They could make alot more trucks with only 40 miles of range! Ok, so this may be a little far fetched but if you are going to sell EVs to the masses you better hit your range targets.
 

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Same. Fuck
 

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Can we stop this nonsense please. I could start my own range experiment at the top of a mountain and drive to the bottom. It would then show that Tesla's actually gain energy when driving and have unlimited range. These posts are nothing but FUD with people that have no experience driving EV's and don't understand the difference between a kW and kWh.
Okay boomer
 


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Have you ever driven an EV? All you are doing here is providing inaccurate information based on a tiny sample. For everyone that drives Tesla's here, we know exactly how far the Cybertruck range will be based on Tesla's exaggerated numbers. We don't need someone that has never driven an EV to tell us what the range will be.
Shutup and go back to your basement
 
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Very disappointing if true.

I have owned a Model Y for almost 3-years and 48k miles. I can verify that Tesla’s battery range estimates are extremely optimistic. I consistently get 15-20% less range than what the vehicle was rated for.
I could handle 15% even 20% but 60%.........no
 

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Other than it’s a hell of a lot less than 340?
This will be my forth Tesla and so far none of them have reached anywhere near advertised range.
Facts. 4 teslas since 2019 and not one has gotten me over 70% of the advertised range
 
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Adhoc data means data that was created/recorded/published for a specific purpose.

The problem is, we have no way to tell what the specific purpose was.
It would be a little odd if the ONLY real world range data coming out about these trucks, a MONTH after launch was some negative conspiracy, especially considering two of the three contributors are Tesla employees.
 

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