Cybertruck Highway Range Test (Dual-Motor AWD) -- Run Until Battery Empty (by Out Of Spec)

[BayouCityBob]

I have an early reservation for a launch edition Silverado RST. They will be able to start using Superchargers 1st half of this year (adapter). With a range of 400 miles, it is much more compelling as a $100k truck. And an R1T is (IMO) much more compelling at its pricepoint as well (though driver plus totally sucks). Big question will be whether I go with any $100k truck.

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[intimidator]

One thing that you may learn is that charging from 10 to 80% doesn't make the fastest trip.
It was a number of years ago with the Model 3 that some guys did some spreadsheet work. While the most efficient speed is about 35 mph, the most efficient speed was about 75 mph.

They ended up determining that if you stopped are every Supercharger along the route, and charged to just enough to get to the next Supercharger, the trip will be much faster, because the battery charges much faster at lower state of charge (SoC).
Most Superchargers are probably too close these days, but it you choose Superchargers about every 100 miles, it makes a lot of sense.

On a V3 Supercharger that's going to let you take 250 kW (1000+ mph charge rate), it won't do so for long. By about %35, you'll be down to 150 kW (600 mph charge rate).
So if it is 100 miles, you fill it so that the Energy Graph shows you getting in about 5% and then yout head off. That's only about a 10 minute stop.

If you Choose to charge to 80%, that's a 50 minute stop.

Now sure, I'm using Model 3 numbers, but the concept is the same.

Driving to the range of the battery and then charging is the slow way to travel.

I just was charging with a couple a few weeks ago and I heard them say that the car was at 99%. I had to step in. Seems as if they had been charging for well over an hour. There was another charger about 75 miles up the road. It would have been MUCH quicker and they would have arrived with a higher SoC if they'd spent a lot less time at the Supercharger.

I have had EVs for years now, so I get the whole charging curve and the sweet spot.

The issue is MANY people don't want to do the mental gymnastics of SoC, %, kWhs, spreadsheet, graphs, etc. And some just can't figure it out, and they don't have a World Rally Car co-pilot with an iPad banging the #s out on the fly during a trip.

FYI I am not a fan of stopping every 100 miles. On longest trips I like to drive 200 miles before I stop. Stopping every 100 miles, assuming there is an open charger in the vicinity, makes sense on paper, but no so much for a good experience.

 

[rudedawg78]

my concern is I have a vacation home 242 miles from my home. I sometimes leave early am to come to work and don't want to have to charge on route. I have a charger at both the vacation home and my office. The range extender is an option but financially that puts this purchase with the new pricing into the not sure it works for me category overall. This is 100% why I wanted and booked the reservation as soon as it said 500 miles. I knew 320 was too close for a full highway ride.

Maybe once they offer All-Season tires instead of All-Terrain, it will give you enough additional range to not worry about the extender.

 

[Bkb13]

Where is team “all you need is 300 miles of range”? I would like to see them try that argument with real world results.

What we are finding is that real world range isn’t that great, and many of y'all are starting to find out my “inconvenience” is now your inconvenience...

You know who you are.

In all seriousness, this was always expected by me…. Anyone with an existing Tesla should have know better.

 

[rudedawg78]

The reality is that you are a 10-15 minute bathroom/snack break in that trip sure seems like it is trivial and easy. Radius is 240 miles (y, as bird flies) on that light blue circle so you can see the superchargers that fall in that general range.

What app or website do you use to generate that Tesla Supercharger map? I like it and it is great for planning.

 

[scottf200]

What app or website do you use to generate that Tesla Supercharger map? I like it and it is great for planning.

That one is Supercharge . Info - is is crowdsourced and one I donate ($) to.
Changes: https://supercharge.info/changes
Map: https://supercharge.info/map

 

[Gigahorse]

Well that is a major bummer, but already pretty much knew. 6,000 miles on one CT and around 600wh/mile is going to mean a whopping 200 miles of range.

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...-20-mile-range-test.10983/page-26#post-221915

 

[intimidator]

This is planned by Tesla MBAs. You do not want to cannibalize your other products like the X and S, or even the Y, if your new product is close at cost ($70k) and has fantastic range. Everyone will order it instead, but you can't ramp up to produce them so sales will be very low.

Eventually, the X line will probably get converted to CT and Tesla kills off the X. CT price will drop. Imagine if you ran Tesla, what would you have done? You can only sell a limited amount of CT on the 1st and 2nd year. You need people to keep buying your old products. This is what I would have done too. Sell Foundations in the 1st year or 8 months until production ramps up.

I almost canceled my order and purchased a Model S Plaid at $89k, but with FSD at $12k that is $101k. Still 19k cheaper than a Cyberbeast. Still can't make up my mind. If CT were $70k as announced, then there is no way I would ever buy any other Tesla except for Cybertrucks.

So the MBAs (which I am not sure Tesla even has) said:

Announce the Cybertruck, promise a LR long range of 500 miles with 3 motors for $69,000

but when we come out with the vehicle, after several years of delays, let's price the longest range at $79,000, only give it 2 motors and 254 miles of real world range. That way we don't cannibalize our sales of X/S !!

Good plan.

 

[Gigahorse]

So the MBAs (which I am not sure Tesla even has) said:

Announce the Cybertruck, promise a LR long range of 500 miles with 3 motors for $69,000

but when we come out with the vehicle, after several years of delays, let's price the longest range at $79,000, only give it 2 motors and 254 miles of real world range. That way we don't cannibalize our sales of X/S !!

Good plan.

Slight correction. $100,000 for 200 miles of real world range. You will be charging to 100% vary rarely and if you want to take it to 0% you will have to get a tow.....

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