Buying the FS CT Isn't Logical

[Sousray]

this forum’s most surprising aspect, to me, is the number of folks over 70

id 100% support Tesla prioritizing by age

I am real close to 70 and even though I don't want to pay the extra $20K, I have been seriously re-thinking my strategy and getting the FS if they bother to offer it to me.
I am 112745xxx so just getting passed up. Right here in TX by plant. the pressure is on.

And lately I have been looking at the Rivian and the Chevy Silverado EV
wondering if I should go that way, but the SS and ride and style is keeping me on track. Hope the battery technology improves before I get mine. Really would like 300-350 range at least.

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[ideaXfactory]

Good idea.

The AWD when charging at home is going to mean that you just don't worry about range or have to stop at those smelly gas stations.
If you are taking a road trip, the AWD Cybertruck will take you across the country with ease.

If you don't want FSD and the Powershare, there is very little reason to get the Foundation package. The remaining trucks will be here, I think, a lot quicker than some expect.

You might be able to order the "remaining trucks" sooner than some expect... well, I guess I already expected it for years, so now I'm not so sure...

And buying a new car/truck say a F-150 or Rivian only to sell it next year for a Cybertruck will cause a double depreciation hit.

If I had purchased a car in 2023, I wouldn't be in the present market to trade it in for a Cybertruck. I'd wait another year or so. But it's hard to plan a time precisely when there are so few hard facts, and a ridiculously long line.

 

[AlDente]

I am in the same boat. Been 4 years since I traded my truck for a Model 3 and been waiting on the CT. And the reality is, a Model Y with a hitch and a utility trailer would be a much cheaper solution and meet all our needs. Actually debating going down to just one car now that we're retired.

I'm convinced there will be some significant changes to the battery system for better charging speed and mileage. WIth fast charging 300+ miles of actual range works for me. I'd also like to see how the steer by wire and rear wheel steering perform before buying.

 

[GuyV]

Its an economic staple for the majority - the older you get the more disposable income. Not many 20 something year-olds looking to drop 100k+ on a vehicle.

A lot of us old codgers have learned the ways of recovering from our mistakes so are not as worried about making a few more.

 

[Alan]

I have Fsd. I don’t see it ever getting there on till there’s a national standard wher cars can communicate with each other. Right now it’s like a timid driver who makes decisions at the last second and would cause accidents around them. This is on city streets. On the highways it’s ok other than the sudden braking for no reason. You have to stay on Top of it.

 

[GuyV]

And will FSD be available by the time you really need it?

That was absolutely a consideration, a ray of hope it might extend driving years a bit. I like driving a fun vehicle and told Tesla that what I really want isn't FSD but a nanny mode to keep me from making preventable errors. It would have to work a lot better than Autocorrect though. LOLOL, wouldn't it be a marketing disaster if they called it that?

 

[REM]

Jumping out of an airplane isn't logical either.

But... you know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[HaulingAss]

That last one is a real kicker - $12k for FSD but not get even the basics delivered. I've already prepaid for FSD once so not keen on doing it again, especially when EM says it isn't a priority.

Like you, I bought FSD on my Model 3 back in Spring of 2018. As I recall, we paid for the feature in advance of its availability, they didn't even have a beta version ready and provided no guarantees as to when it would go live. I believe we waited years.

Cybertruck's FSD beta will go live sooner than that, I'm sure, but what we are really buying is the locking in of the price of FSD now, for when it goes live with full autonomy. In the interim we will be able to use the latest versions of FSD beta. The real question is how long before they have the beta calibrated for Cybertruck. My best guess is before the year is out, probably a good amount sooner, like by summer.

 

[Woodrick]

Like you, I bought FSD on my Model 3 back in Spring of 2018. As I recall, we paid for the feature in advance of its availability, they didn't even have a beta version ready and provided no guarantees as to when it would go live. I believe we waited years.

Cybertruck's FSD beta will go live sooner than that, I'm sure, but what we are really buying is the locking in of the price of FSD now, for when it goes live with full autonomy. In the interim we will be able to use the latest versions of FSD beta. The real question is how long before they have the beta calibrated for Cybertruck. My best guess is before the year is out, probably a good amount sooner, like by summer.

It was nearly 3 years before the FSD Beta appeared. We got some version of Autopilot and if people think that the current version is unsafe, well it's a perfect driver compared to the early versions.

 

[HaulingAss]

I have the 23 k model 3 made which was RWD (I wish I had AWD for driving in snow and ice but it wasn't available) and is long range. There was no white interior, only black and the cellular connection was free for life. It also has radar, ultrasonic sensors and the 2170 batteries which I feel are superior to the present 4680's.

I am glad I didn't pay for the FSD, because I don't think it can be updated to the 3.0/4.0 hardware that is now needed for FSD. It doesn't have adaptive cruise but has a free upgrade with the software that keeps the car on the road - which I find annoying so I shut it off.

We have three 2018 Model 3, two very early Long Range RWD and one Performance version. All three were upgraded to Ver. 3 FSD hardware at Tesla's expense, neccessary hardware upgrades come with the price of FSD. Tesla says they are not compatible with further FSD hardware upgrades but that ver. 3 hardware will work for autonomy, when it's ready.

 

[davelloydbrown]

We have three 2018 Model 3, two very early Long Range RWD and one Performance version. All three were upgraded to Ver. 3 FSD hardware at Tesla's expense, neccessary hardware upgrades come with the price of FSD. Tesla says they are not compatible with further FSD hardware upgrades but that ver. 3 hardware will work for autonomy, when it's ready.

yes, I stand corrected, but I still wonder if the 3.0 hardware version will work with FSD when it is finalized, whenever that will be.

 

[Woodrick]

We have three 2018 Model 3, two very early Long Range RWD and one Performance version. All three were upgraded to Ver. 3 FSD hardware at Tesla's expense, neccessary hardware upgrades come with the price of FSD. Tesla says they are not compatible with further FSD hardware upgrades but that ver. 3 hardware will work for autonomy, when it's ready.

Whoever you talked to at Tesla is wrong!

Elon is still saying that FSD is going to work on HW3 and the HW3 is the priority at this time. That's why HW4 and the Cybertruck are expected to be months behind at times.
And Elon even promised that the original Model 3 would be able to run FSD, kind of inferring that if HW4 is required, they'd do it.

 

[HaulingAss]

I have absolutely zero interest in supercharger credits. NONE, ZILCH, there are none located near me and at least for now we would drive another vehicle if going far.

My Model 3 Performance has Free Supercharging for life. And we have two Superchargers about 15 miles from our home. But those are not the ones that are valuable to us. It's the Superchargers 100-150 miles away (and beyond) from home that matter to us.

You are really missing out by not road tripping by Superchargers. It's the best. Maybe that's because it's free for me, I don't know, but I really like the way these electric cars can zip from Supercharger to Supercharger, so much more satisfying than filling up with gas once or twice every day.

 

[HaulingAss]

yes, I stand corrected, but I still wonder if the 3.0 hardware version will work with FSD when it is finalized, whenever that will be.

It remains to be seen if Tesla can make hardware ver. 3 do full autonomy. I tend to think it will work. But Tesla will have to make it work or upgrade the hardware, regardless of the expense.

 

[HaulingAss]

Whoever you talked to at Tesla is wrong!

Elon is still saying that FSD is going to work on HW3 and the HW3 is the priority at this time. That's why HW4 and the Cybertruck are expected to be months behind at times.
And Elon even promised that the original Model 3 would be able to run FSD, kind of inferring that if HW4 is required, they'd do it.

I didn't talk to anyone at Tesla, I get all my information from public statements made by the company.

I don't understand what you are telling me I'm wrong about though, considering there is no conflict between your statements and mine.

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