Foundation AWD Home Share installation

[rizvend]

What if you live in an apartment complex? ?

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[Texarado]

What if you live in an apartment complex? ?

You can have 6/12 mos supercharging.

 

[sylvius]

Understand it has to be a 200A sub panel, not just a 200A panel. Hoping that’s not the case. I have a 200A panel and 60A sub panel, and I don’t know if that will be enough. Hopefully.

The main electrical service normally comes into the main panel but when you put in a transfer switch (which is what the powershare gateway is) between the main and the panel, suddenly that main panel is considered a sub-panel. What our electrician told us when he installed our generator is that there are some things that are allowed in main panels that are not allowed in sub-panels which required him to re-wire some things to make it compliant. So it’s possible the main panel becomes a sub-panel with no significant drama other than routing the main service into the gateway and then wiring from the gateway to what was the main panel and is now the subpanel.

 

[Texarado]

The main electrical service normally comes into the main panel but when you put in a transfer switch (which is what the powershare gateway is) between the main and the panel, suddenly that main panel is considered a sub-panel. What our electrician told us when he installed our generator is that there are some things that are allowed in main panels that are not allowed in sub-panels which required him to re-wire some things to make it compliant. So it’s possible the main panel becomes a sub-panel with no significant drama other than routing the main service into the gateway and then wiring from the gateway to what was the main panel and is now the subpanel.

That explanation worries me that I may need 2 sub panels?

 

[sylvius]

That explanation worries me that I may need 2 sub panels?

Probably not, just what you used to call your main panel would now be called your sub-panel.

 

[Texarado]

Probably not, just what you used to call your main panel would now be called your sub-panel.

What I mean is that I already have a main and a 60a sub panel And the 60A is a smaller physical size. It does have 2 spare spots. My sub is fed by a 60a switch from my main. No idea if the sub is physically capable of handling more than 60A.

 

[Cybertruck 1974]

What I mean is that I already have a main and a 60a sub panel And the 60A is a smaller physical size. It does have 2 spare spots. My sub is fed by a 60a switch from my main. No idea if the sub is physically capable of handling more than 60A.

Ok let's get this right for you. Gateway is not a subpanel. Your main panel is where your power company is located and main breaker shutoff is located. The subpanel for solar, batteries, generator is needed to isolate equipment, gateway and air panel from.house etc...if you get powershare you will need to have your 60amp subpanel upgraded to 200amps required by Tesla and Electrical code. You need to have 20% more amp rating than what you are using. Hope that helps.

 

[sylvius]

You’re overthinking. The 200A main panel becomes the 200A primary sub-panel and the 60A panel becomes a secondary sub-panel. You’re allowed to have a sub-panel off a sub-panel.

 

[Outdoors]

Wonder if someone could have it installed in one house, and then remove it and put it in another house? For example the people that live off grid.

I think I will have it installed in our traditional home which it will work on, and then take it out and install. Although I know a Tesla installer, maybe he could just order it when it becomes available.

Edit: I also have a fully off grid setup with multiple feeds for power into my setup. Adding the truck would help my personal grid. Solar, batteries, and a propane 7kW. My inverter will pull from who is providing juice and then turn on gen if batteries drop. Adding another finger in my power setup helps me with my micro grid. Also won't charge my car until my house batteries work up to a certain level. Having two EV's in this scenario is really great. One can always be charging while one is driving.

 

[OnTheSnap]

That explanation worries me that I may need 2 sub panels?

Gateway v3 has a mini sub panel in it. All the backup loads you want connect there.

For my case I have 400A service, that’s split into 2 200A breakers. I will be backing up one of the 200A breakers plus moving a few loads from the other 200A bus to the gateway. Mainly AC and upstairs lighting.

‘My guess is gateway v3 is not yet ramped and shipping. And the PowerShare software is not baked yet as it’s been a low priority for CT launch. Maybe we will see the first PowerShare installs in Q2 as they get the hardware ramped and software ready.

 

[C T Rick]

Without the PowerShare option, what’s to keep someone from just plugging into the bed outlet and running the house or a portion of the house on either a transfer switch or a completely isolated secondary circuit?
What’s the deal with using the rear outlets, especially the 50 amp 240. Does the truck need to be put into a certain setting that allows it to operate? Can you just leave it powered on overnight if need be?

Rick

 

[CyberTruckeeTheOne]

I think I’d rather take the free supercharging. Haven’t heard anything since my initial survey. Took delivery a week ago.

So you have an option to take free supercharging (for how long?) or the powershare?

 

[CyberTruckeeTheOne]

What if you live in an apartment complex? ?

Someone living in a condo posted he was disapproved.

Understandably, they don't own anything outside.

You, you don't own anything at all but the right to be in it, LOL.

 

[SolarWizard]

Tell that to the Tesla Installer who has installed 3 systems to employee only homes....... My source completely blows your non source source out of the water. Man you just hate, angry and can't accept facts can you? get yourself a bao bao tea and take a deep breathe.

you have no idea who I am so I will let your incredible ignorance on that slide

those are not facts. internal installation crews are simply doing employees FIRST because of the very tight supply

 

[OnTheSnap]

Without the PowerShare option, what’s to keep someone from just plugging into the bed outlet and running the house or a portion of the house on either a transfer switch or a completely isolated secondary circuit?
What’s the deal with using the rear outlets, especially the 50 amp 240. Does the truck need to be put into a certain setting that allows it to operate? Can you just leave it powered on overnight if need be?

Rick

Nothing, but you won’t get the automated failover support. As well as whatever features they implement with the bidirectional system.

I have heard the car won’t charge while the outlets are enabled. So when you manually activate the outlet, the house will run the battery down to 20%. You’ll then need to charge it or drive to a working SC.

Also PowerShare supports 11.5kw output. The 240V outlet is 7.2kw max. PowerShare uses the bidirectional AC charger in the car to support your house.

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