Cybertruck vault leak in rain: a bit disappointing

[cvalue13]

The vault isn't a tonneau cover - no one ever said it would be water proof.

fair enough, perhaps no one ever said it would be “water proof”

but a certain someone *did* several times discuss and suggest the vault would be a place for sleeping and camping, and other notions that reasonably led people to believe they could - eg - put sound equipment for a band back there.


Meanwhile, there are a lot of rubber sealants across the vault, which means Tesla is certainly trying to make the vault somewhat waterproof/resistant. They understand the value/goal in that effort.


Then there are fanbois, who have yelled loudly things like “the CT tonneau works, unlike the Rivian!” - kind of asking for the responsive critique, no?


If you never needed the tonneau to be more waterproof that it turns out to be, you win.

but people has not unreasonable expectations, or use case needs, that mean as it turns out this is a topic that can’t be dismissed out of hand.

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[Deleted member 17810]

Cybertruck is like David Dunn from unbreakable

 

[jerhenderson]

fair enough, perhaps no one ever said it would be “water proof”

but a certain someone *did* several times discuss and suggest the vault would be a place for sleeping and camping, and other notions that reasonably led people to believe they could - eg - put sound equipment for a band back there.


Meanwhile, there are a lot of rubber sealants across the vault, which means Tesla is certainly trying to make the vault somewhat waterproof/resistant. They understand the value/goal in that effort.


Then there are fanbois, who have yelled loudly things like “the CT tonneau works, unlike the Rivian!” - kind of asking for the responsive critique, no?


If you never needed the tonneau to be more waterproof that it turns out to be, you win.

but people has not unreasonable expectations, or use case needs, that mean as it turns out this is a topic that can’t be dismissed out of hand.

It can be dismissed because it was never claimed to be waterproof. Something isn't an issue when people create expectations that never existed.

 

[CyberGus]

It can be dismissed because it was never claimed to be waterproof. Something isn't an issue when people create expectations that never existed.

Tesla never "claimed" the cabin is waterproof either, but we all rightly expect it. It comes down to expectations.

I did not expect the truck bed to have the same level of comfort as the interior seating. The vault cover is for aero, and to keep the bed contents from escaping.

Expecting a pickup bed to be hermetically sealed is not realistic.

 

[sylvius]

It can be dismissed because it was never claimed to be waterproof. Something isn't an issue when people create expectations that never existed.

I don't agree that it's so cut and dry. If the truck shipped with an open bed like most pickups do, then the buyer should rightfully expect that when it rains the bed gets water in it. If it ships with an integrated cover called the vault and marketed as keeping the contents safe then I think it is pretty reasonable to expect substantial protection from water intrusion. Now whether the cover in its current iteration meets a reasonable expectation is a gray area but I don't think you can just state it's a non-issue because they didn't guarantee it being waterproof.

The upside is that with every truck I've had I had to do some weatherstripping work to get the tailgate better sealed. That will be easy with the CT. It's up at the front that will take some extra work but I suspect there will be ways to tighten that to encourage the water to go where we'd prefer it. Add a bed mat to raise the cargo slightly above the floor and suddenly a little water in the bed is no big deal if it just runs along the sides and out the bottom corner of the tailgate.

 

[Woodrick]

I don't agree that it's so cut and dry. If the truck shipped with an open bed like most pickups do, then the buyer should rightfully expect that when it rains the bed gets water in it. If it ships with an integrated cover called the vault and marketed as keeping the contents safe then I think it is pretty reasonable to expect substantial protection from water intrusion. Now whether the cover in its current iteration meets a reasonable expectation is a gray area but I don't think you can just state it's a non-issue because they didn't guarantee it being waterproof.

The upside is that with every truck I've had I had to do some weatherstripping work to get the tailgate better sealed. That will be easy with the CT. It's up at the front that will take some extra work but I suspect there will be ways to tighten that to encourage the water to go where we'd prefer it. Add a bed mat to raise the cargo slightly above the floor and suddenly a little water in the bed is no big deal if it just runs along the sides and out the bottom corner of the tailgate.

"Safe" is protection from being stolen.

"Safe" isn't waterproof.

But if you want to call "Safe" waterproof, then what about temperature control? If I have a gallon of water, wouldn't your definition of "safe" mean that it wouldn't freeze and burst? Isn't that an environmental equivalent of being "Safe"?

In your definition of "safe" then look toward the frunk as "safe" storage, something that ICE pickups don't have.

It is what it is. Don't like it, don't buy the Cybertruck.

 

[CyberGus]

I don't agree that it's so cut and dry

I see what you did there

 

[CyberGus]

Don't like it, don't buy the Cybertruck.

The tired "love it or leave it" trope is reductive, and detrimental to productive discourse.

 

[sylvius]

Yeah, and I don't need to be told, "it's a pick up truck, the bed is for carrying mulch and trash." I've had several trucks and plenty of the stuff I carry in the bed doesn't react too well to water, like power tools (which is most definitely a use case where you want to keep them both not stolen and dry). And if having a tiny, but waterproof frunk were the solution, I'd be driving a compact hatchback and not a truck. I know lots of people that never put a tonneau on their trucks and they deal with it. All of my trucks have had diamondback hard tonneaus that can be weatherstripped to be mostly (but not completely) impervious. I am reasonably hoping that the CT tonneau will be the same with the added bonus of being retractable.

 

[Deleted member 17810]

That cover was at one point called magical.

 

[Cybertruck 1974]

it barely leaks. Most of the water in the all these videos are from rolling the cover to open position. it only leaks a little at tail gate and driver and passenger side corner points. The cover itself is water proof and doesn;t drip down onto cargo area.

 

[Woodrick]

The tired "love it or leave it" trope is reductive, and detrimental to productive discourse.

If I don't like you, should I be yelling it in your face multiple times a day?

I don't like a lot of things, but I'm not in their forums complaining about them.

I'm not saying love it or leave it. I'm just saying stop bitching about it.

Bitching is not productive.

 

[CyberGus]

If I don't like you, should I be yelling it in your face multiple times a day?

I don't like a lot of things, but I'm not in their forums complaining about them.

I'm not saying love it or leave it. I'm just saying stop bitching about it.

Bitching is not productive.

While there is a fine line between voicing a concern and simply grousing, no one in the history of anger has ever stopped being angry by being commanded "hey! stop being angry"

Maybe that's just me? I work in customer support, so I've had to take terms like "RTFM", "GTFO", and "STFU" out of my vocabulary, generally. Mostly. Professionally, at least

"Hardly ever use a big big D..." ?

 

[CyberGus]

@Kahpernicus : STOP BEING ANGRY

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