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A common flaw in American perspective is the belief that everyone in the world wants its version of democracy.
Not everyone wants democracy obviously. There are those that are perfectly fine with being subjugated and controlled by a central authority believing it is best for everyone. The ones that are not fine with it come to the U.S.

China is rapidly overtaking the US with its current system and yes it will supercede the US as the world's primary superpower..
No, China is not rapidly overtaking the U.S. But there are those that are wishing, hoping, believing that China will overtake the U.S. including, believe or not, Americans!

I suppose it is possible that China will be the dominate superpower some day, but only if we elect leaders like Joe Biden and the radical left that has seized control of the Democrat Party.
 
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Yea, what screams corruption other than a politician who has at worse forgotten to attribute every paraphrase. Ooo, scary.

-Crissa
The "Big Guy" corrupt? Say it isn't so!
 

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A common flaw in American perspective is the belief that everyone in the world wants its version of democracy. China is rapidly overtaking the US with its current system and yes it will supercede the US as the world's primary superpower.... something the US will never regain once lost. The US has its own issues with corruption.... just look at Trump.
Trump is a symptom and not the cause of corruption. It is true that American government does not follow the will of the people and that is corrupt but that is a far cry from the corruption of the Chinese government. I do not think people want democracy, even lots of Americans don't want it and are tired of making the compromises that it requires, I said people demand it since it is the only way to escape the absolute power/ absolute corruption dynamic.
You think China is overtaking, but you don't say how.
In innovation? There are threads on this forum how Tesla cannot be copied... copy is what people do when they are behind.
In finance?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/jack-mas-blunt-words-just-180824380.html
In stability?
One country, 2 systems..., Taiwan... and the west is so stable that they use labor camps.
Do you really think a country that has to use labor camps to maintain its power structure is surpassing the USA any time soon?
 


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US involvement in sanctioning Iraq, Iran and Cuba were not always supported by the world, despite what you may be taught in the US. A reason those nations were sanctioned by the US had a great deal to do with their rejection of US puppet governments, US corporate meddling, and US military involvement and interest in their resources - and nothing at all to do with human rights.
Yes, I understand that some of the sanctions are about US government and corporations trying to force a specific economic program.

But also, some is not all. What is your opinion about the human rights issues?
 

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Not everyone wants democracy obviously. There are those that are perfectly fine with being subjugated and controlled by a central authority believing it is best for everyone. The ones that are not fine with it come to the U.S.
Funny, I thought you were talking about the US and how some are happy to believe, even when there is video evidence to the contrary, the lies spouted by politicians more worried about their image than getting things done. That they are happy to have freedoms turned over for a bit of safety and security... As long as it is aimed at people not like them.

There are many things I love about my country, but throwing away freedoms in exchange for pushing down others is not one of them.
 

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How about all long term politicians are corrupt! There is too much money in politics, leading to corruption. Lets get the money out of politics (term limits, no family employees, remove immunity, make them have the same retirement and insurance, etc) and we should see a change. Anyone that thinks a senator or congressperson can become wealthy off of their salary only, is not thinking much. They all buy in eventually.

On China: China is a communist/socialist government which relies on expansion. They also devalue their currency which is a bit of a 'cheat' that allows them to maintain manufacturing advantages. I, for one, don't want that for our country. I also don't think it will work for them over the longer term.

Anywho...
 

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Do you really think a country that has to use labor camps to maintain its power structure is surpassing the USA any time soon?
That seems unrelated to having global power and projection. USSR had labor camps and was a superpower. The US had labor camps and was a superpower. England had labor camps (entire countries, in fact) and was the world's superpower.

On China: China is a communist/socialist government which relies on expansion. They also devalue their currency which is a bit of a 'cheat' ...
None of this is supported by facts or evidence.

-Crissa
 

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That seems unrelated to having global power and projection. USSR had labor camps and was a superpower. The US had labor camps and was a superpower. England had labor camps (entire countries, in fact) and was the world's superpower.


None of this is supported by facts or evidence.

-Crissa
This wasn't so hard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_China

(on communism/China)

The government of the People's Republic of China (Chinese: 中华人民共和国政府; pinyin: Zhōnghuá Rénmín Gònghéguó Zhèngfǔ) is collectively the state authority in China under the exclusive political leadership of the Communist Party of China (CPC).[2] It consists of legislative, executive, military, supervisory, judicial and procuratorial branches.


(on currency manipulation by China gov)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renminbi
"When China's economy gradually opened in the 1980s, the RMB was devalued in order to improve the competitiveness of Chinese exports. "

https://www.investopedia.com/trading/chinese-devaluation-yuan/

"Thus, skeptics rejected the market-oriented-reform rationale instead of interpreting the devaluation as a desperate attempt to stimulate China's sluggish economy and keep exports from falling further."
 


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This wasn't so hard:
Noted, you didn't support the first point, and your second point... also wasn't supported. Something that happened forty years ago is hardly evidence of manipulation today.

And that's not even including the hilarity of using Investopedia as a source.

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That seems unrelated to having global power and projection. USSR had labor camps and was a superpower. The US had labor camps and was a superpower. England had labor camps (entire countries, in fact) and was the world's superpower.


None of this is supported by facts or evidence.

-Crissa
Ahh yes England was considered a superpower but was unable to project its power and lost all those labor camps... In other words they really weren't a superpower when push came to shove. Russia folded without ever testing that supposed superpower. Indeed they could not sustain their invasion of Afghanistan. China would lose horribly if it attempted a war "cold or hot" with the United States. Superpower war requires long term abilities and deep domain knowledge to sustain the effort and China is not at that level yet.
 

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...And now it's the US's turn to decline. Put in motion by the Republican administration.

-Crissa
Decline? I don't think facts support that and I disagree that it is partisan lead. This last administration has used brinkmanship to destabilize but instability, while dangerous, and decline are antithetical.
 

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I enjoyed the video and agree with a lot of the opinions. I think Tesla’s competitive advantages are speed of change, engineering, innovation, software, vertical integration and Elon Musk. And to think that they came within a month of bankruptcy two years ago!

They are now a BEV powerhouse that will be a challenge to catch up with. You can reverse engineer, tear down, buy Monroe Company reports but it’s nearly impossible to replicate a Tesla vehicle due to its proprietary software and relentless effort to improve existing products.
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