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Guys, I don't mean to be the bearer of bad news... but... Model 3, Y, and CT will NOT be getting the UE5 visualization. As @devdrone6 mentioned, there is another thread that talks about this extensively, which was the exact thread I already covered.

In short: The 3, Y, and CT lack the GPU horsepower to achieve this. Perhaps with newer MCU releases or retrofits it might be a possibility. However, as it stands, this will not be a possibility with the current gen models. If you want more information or reasons as to why, I suggest you check the other thread for a more in-depth dive.
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Guys, I don't mean to be the bearer of bad news... but... Model 3, Y, and CT will NOT be getting the UE5 visualization. As @devdrone6 mentioned, there is another thread that talks about this extensively, which was the exact thread I already covered.

In short: The 3, Y, and CT lack the GPU horsepower to achieve this. Perhaps with newer MCU releases or retrofits it might be a possibility. However, as it stands, this will not be a possibility with the current gen models. If you want more information or reasons as to why, I suggest you check the other thread for a more in-depth dive.
We will see. Optimizations can be made to render the visualization using the CyberTruck's AI4 chip to run the UnReal Engine. It might not look as crisp, have the detailed visualizations of the S/X AI4 chip but, time will tell. Fingers crossed that I am more right than wrong.
 

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Guys, I don't mean to be the bearer of bad news... but... Model 3, Y, and CT will NOT be getting the UE5 visualization. As @devdrone6 mentioned, there is another thread that talks about this extensively, which was the exact thread I already covered.

In short: The 3, Y, and CT lack the GPU horsepower to achieve this. Perhaps with newer MCU releases or retrofits it might be a possibility. However, as it stands, this will not be a possibility with the current gen models. If you want more information or reasons as to why, I suggest you check the other thread for a more in-depth dive.
You are making a guess...an educated one, sure, but you don't know for sure.
 

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a nice “one-up” to the competitors if this is true..

I will admit I love the Waymo Google based navigation graphics.. and also Rivians recent update with v2 Graphics and how it displays the vehicle in the ‘cartoon’ style..
 


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Seems unlikely to me they would develop software that will work only on vehicles that are destined to become obsolete.
I adore our model x but the truth is the newer single screen design cars are the direction Tesla is taking.
Just look at the Chinese spec model Y-L with 6 seats.
It’s a matter of time before these cars take over the role of the s and x for less money and at that point they will have to come up with something else “premium”’to interest people who are willing to pay more than double for a “luxury” Tesla.
 
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Talk about a first world problem. The video representation of my car that drives for me doesn’t look enough like the road in the bloody windshield I don’t have to pay attention to anymore. 😭😫 The pain. And did I mention the windshield wiper every person on Earth has wined about (but never taken the 1 minute it takes to understand) for a decade? I hear Reddit is accepting applications.
 

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You are making a guess...an educated one, sure, but you don't know for sure.
It's not an educated guess - Its spec limitations of the actual AMD Ryzen chip.

Also, can we stop calling it an AI4 chip?
AI4 is completely separate to the MCU.
AI4 = Full-Self Driving, Tesla in-house, System On Chip (SOC)
MCU = Media Control Unit, AMD Ryzen <-- Two Versions, One Ryzen is CPU only and the other (in S and X) CPU/GPU combo. This is how and why the S and X is able to graphically run UE5 using Hardware Acceleration.

Now the only way around this might be if they resolution or object limit. Resolution limit means what it means - instead of 1440p it might render at 1080p or 720p. Object limit is exactly what they did when Tesla Vision came out - The intel cpu can still produce the 3D elements, however there won't be as many objects rendered or displayed on the screen.

Long story short - something will have to be sacrificed; either partially or altogether.
 
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It's not an educated guess - Its spec limitations of the actual AMD Ryzen chip. Also, can we stop calling it an AI4 chip?

AI4 is completely separate to the MCU.
AI4 = Full-Self Driving, Tesla in-house, System On Chip (SOC)
MCU = Media Control Unit, AMD Ryzen <-- Two Versions, One Ryzen is CPU only and the other (in S and X) CPU/GPU combo. This is how and why the S and X is able to graphically run UE5 using Hardware Acceleration.

Now the only way around this might be if they resolution or object limit. Resolution limit means what it means - instead of 1440p it might render at 1080p or 720p. Object limit is exactly what they did when Tesla Vision came out - The intel cpu can still produce the 3D elements, however there won't be as many objects rendered or displayed on the screen.
Every code warrior thinks they know more about hardware and running code than the next computer nerd. I've been involved in gaming engines and the processors needed to run the latest and greatest for over 20 years. Why don't you take your pessimistic opinion back to your thread? I prefer optimism and people who understand there is always a work-around if the hardware is capable. The AI 4 system was designed specifically for upgraded features and functionality. That is a fact. If it bothers you, go preach to your skeptical friends in that other thread. I find your opinions rather banal.
 

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Every code warrior thinks they know more about hardware and running code than the next computer nerd. I've been involved in gaming engines and the processors needed to run the latest and greatest for over 20 years. Why don't you take your pessimistic opinion back to your thread? I prefer optimism and people who understand there is always a work-around if the hardware is capable. The AI 4 system was designed specifically for upgraded features and functionality. That is a fact. If it bothers you, go preach to your skeptical friends in that other thread. I find your opinions rather banal.
I'm sorry @BengalBoy, I didn't realize computation and coding works on optimism. My bad. In the last 20 years, some games were able to be software driven, heck I still remember when Need For Speed II used to have a drop down to render games in Software or Hardware Accelerated mode. UE5 is not that. It requires a graphical accelerated hardware to work. As a game engine designer for 20 years, clearly you should know this. If Tesla was creating their own game engine to render, then perhaps you might have a point. However, the claim in the article is that it will be running UE5 game engine.

Also, the fact that you decided to call it AI4 right after clearing the confusion about AI4 vs MCU says all I need to know about your technical background.
 


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I'm sorry @BengalBoy, I didn't realize computation and coding works on optimism. My bad. In the last 20 years, games were able to be software driven, heck I still remember when Need For Speed II used to have a drop down to render games in Software or Hardware Accelerated mode. UE5 is not that. It requires a graphical accelerated hardware to work. As a game engine designer for 20 years, clearly you should know this. If Tesla was creating their own game engine to render, then perhaps you might have a point. However, the claim in the article is that it will be running UE5 game engine.

Also, the fact that you decided to call it AI4 right after clearing the confusion about AI4 vs MCU says all I need to know about your technical background.
I'm sure your wonderful conversation at dinner parties. 😄
 

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People talking as if they know something, but Unreal Engine can run on Nintendo Switch 1 which has 4 gig ram and 32 gig storage. Cybertruck media processor may not be S/X level, but it has at least 8gig ram and 128 gig storage. If Tesla wants, they can make it work on Cybertruck, as well as Model 3 and Y. It's also extremely likely they will, as effort for this sort of thing on the niche cars seems like a waste of time. I personally don't care, but Cybertruck can definitely run it if they want to make it happen. UE is scalable and far from the most demanding engine in the world.
 

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All the “computer” talk aside, why the heck a brand new vehicle (in their lineup) didn’t get the same if not a better or more advanced chip than an older model (SX)?
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