CYBERTRUCKco takes on the Rubicon!

[CYBERTRUCKco]

So, I hope I'm not kicking a dead horse here. Could you have driven any slower, or did she suffer/sustain damage even at that (slow) speed? If that makes sense

I did drive it slowly, the Rubicon is a super gnarly trail, every rig takes damage there.

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[FuturePrimitive]

I did drive it slowly, the Rubicon is a super gnarly trail, every rig takes damage there.

This has always been my impression as well. Damage awaits participants!

Awesome that you ran it, and congratulations for finishing it!

 

[btcrealm]

Sorry for the clumped replies just catching up on this thread.

There are two different Rivian articles with two different vehicles and results. Both below.
https://stories.rivian.com/r1s-first-production-ev-rubicon-trail
https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/rubicon-trail-1-rexbo-r1t-0

As the R1S Quad has been used as the primary comparison here are the specs. I'm comparing top end to top end even though Rogers is the AWD Cybertruck.
R1S Quad
length of 5100 mm (200.8 in)
width of 2077 mm (81.77 in)
height of 1966 mm (77.4 in)
wheelbase is 121.1 inches
clearance of 14.9 inches (378 mm) / 8.1 inches (205 mm)
turning circle is 13.2 meters (43.3 feet)
curb weight of 6,824 lbs (3,137 kg)
149 kWh NMC battery pack
1,025 horsepower (hp)
1,198 lb-ft (1,198 lb-ft) of torque
$121,990

Cybertruck Cyberbeast
length of 223.7 inches (5682 mm)
width of 95.0 inches (2413 mm)
height of 70.5 inches (1790 mm)
wheelbase is 143.1 inches (4358 mm)
clearance of 17.4 inches (440 mm) / 7.9 inches (201 mm)
turning circle is 43.5 feet (13.26 meters)
curb weight 6,863 lbs (3,113 kg)
123 kWh (usable) battery pack
845 horsepower (630 kW)
1,029.6 lb⋅ft (1,396.0 N⋅m) of wheel torque
$99,990

The CT has weak spots- besides the suspension, it has zero flex and needs long travel. But awesome to see you guys pushing it to the limit!

People tend to forget the cybertruck was designed and built by a car company. There are many things about it that make it bad for real offroading.
For those that have driven HMMWVs its a lot like an on road version (bottom chassis wise). Tesla is learning with the community what needs to be fixed and at least from a software perspective has been fixing things.
It is really cool that two tech came out to wrench on it in their off hours.

If you look at Rivian's info, they show they had an R1S on the trail for 12 of the 22 miles of the Rubicon. There were two R1T that were there as support vehicles but were replaced with a modified Jeep.

It's a tough trail! From what I know, most vehicles are pretty modified that run it, and body damage and broken parts are par for the course. Here's an R1T that ran it ended up with body damage from flex on it https://www.rivianforums.com/rubicon-trail-1-rexbo-r1t-0/

Before the Cybertruck launched, we had in our neighborhood a pre-release Cybertruck RC at an engineer's house that had all the dirt and marks of Tesla's testing. I have no doubt it went through thorough testing.

It's awesome that Roger ran the Rubicon and is out testing parts! Everything I've seen from them is very well engineered.

Agreed, Roger has been very responsive and has been open to talking about concepts for offroading components and modifications. I also love they are taking their parts out and use them.

The Drive certainly didn’t do you any favors today

https://www.thedrive.com/news/a-tes...hlid=4d72c072d645d202f9de0322b57d063e0fa26fbd

Yeah, this article got me a lot of flack from other offroading groups I'm a part of. I find it very funny they have to use Rogers posts to augment and 'validate' their article even when the posts are out of context.
I wonder if they did an article on the Rivian runs? Nevermind, found it *shocked* its glowing https://www.thedrive.com/news/rivia...oduction-ev-to-conquer-rubicon-off-road-trail

I've been off-roading for over 40 years and I can tell you this:

Some drivers break stuff almost every time they go out, other drivers, on the same trail, with the same rig and the same mods, rarely break anything. It's mostly about driver skill. Lines matter, throttle control matters, inches matter.

These are unassailable truths. That said, there is no doubt that a short-wheelbase Jeep that is designed more for off-road than on-road duty, is less likely to break things than a Cybertruck. Put the two on a twisty road racing track and it would be no contest.

I'm super glad that Tesla didn't build the Cybertruck primarily as a rock-crawler. I can tell you this, my stock F-150 4x4 wouldn't have stood a chance of even completing that route without multiple winch-outs and drive line and oil pan replacements!

The Cybertruck is designed to handle rugged roads (not rock-crawling trails) while still outperforming other trucks (and many sporty cars) on challenging paved roads, while retaining the capability to strategically get you through washouts, floods, and other hazards that will stop other stock pickups in their tracks. It's the do-it-all, all-weather truck that makes the difficult easy.

Here's another undeniable truth: People who sell off-road parts will always push vehicles past their breaking limits to sell you parts. There would be no point in them doing the Rubicon stock, and not breaking anything, that would not sell their parts. That said, I'm sure a skilled driver, willing to risk doing exactly that, could strategically get through without breaking anything.

I'm pretty sure the people who took the Rivian through unscathed (mechanically) were not sellers of aftermarket off-road "upgrades". Let me know if I'm wrong, but I highly doubt it!

This is 100% true.
Roger & CybertruckCo are out finding the extreme. Unfortunately/fortunately that means breaking the things that are the weak points. Rivian I'm sure both times (R1T & R1S) did everything they could not to break anything.


Overall its a little frustrating parts are breaking but it shouldn't be a surprise as Tesla builds cars and the weight and dimensions are not in its favor.

 

[ABILISK]

Starting to make me think Tesla engineers should’ve driven the 22 mile rubicon instead of the 1,000 mile Baja Rally. It kicked Baja’s ass, but there’s more to be desired here.

 

[RM Rilke]

 

[CYBERTRUCKco]

made for a great story!

 

[CYBERTRUCKco]

Starting to make me think Tesla engineers should’ve driven the 22 mile rubicon instead of the 1,000 mile Baja Rally. It kicked Baja’s ass, but there’s more to be desired here.

They wanted to, but we beat them to it! They did send 2x off duty engineers to come help us fix it, so they wee involved at the end.

 

[Fugue]

As someone who does the Rubicon multiple times a year in my ICE 4x4s I would have to disagree with your statement. You were dragged across the Rubicon by your support Jeep and other volunteers on the trail. You did not complete the trail under your own power and you broke five ways from Sunday.

You may be the self-appointed gatekeeper of Rubicon Trail, but you're No True Scotsman!

 

[RM Rilke]

made for a great story!

You will be telling that one for a long time. It looked epic.

 

[Shygar]

I saw you got a post in the California 4 wheel association In Gear magazine:

 

[CYBERTRUCKco]

I saw you got a post in the California 4 wheel association In Gear magazine:

They sure do love throwing the Cybertruck under the bus! The CT is a great offroad vehicle in 95% of trails, the Rubicon is a very challenging trail which the CT did 98% by itself and used its winch to get through the remaining 2%. Yes, we had damage, we also saw 5 other rigs pulled off the side as well, it happens on the that trail. We completed the Rubicon, fact.

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