FSD 14.3 wide release end of week

[Caraholic]

Been very impressed with FSD as is. Only thing I wish it did was park itself in my garage so my wife doesn’t have to leave it outside till I get home.

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[kjright]

When I said it's main weakness was in lack of excellent parking ability, I was speaking from a functional perspective of an autonomous solution. As long as it's safe to weave around a tar snake or plastic bag, it's less than ideal, but not a functional problem in terms of safely getting from A to B. As a sport-touring motorcycle rider, I've occasionally taken a strange line, left my lane, or braked hard, to increase safety when I wasn't sure what I was seeing (and I was approaching at too high of a speed to wait any longer). Even when I thought it was a low probability that there was any threat to me. I'm not so proud that I care if it looks like I know what I'm doing, I want to stay alive and taking the path that is known to be safe, instead of the one with any level of doubt, is the safest thing to do, even if it looks erratic to someone who can clearly see the potential threat wasn't a threat. And I'm still here. Yes, it can be unsettling to some passengers when FSD avoids non-threats, but it's still in it's infancy and rapidly improving, safety comes before looking competent to people who haven't thought the safety aspect through in a rational manner.



I had one of those two days ago. The Cybertruck had slowed down to 15 mph to enter a roundabout in a residential area and there was a jogger going the same direction on my right, right before I entered the roundabout. At the last minute she glanced over her left shoulder to check for traffic before crossing in front of me. If she continued across the pedestrian crossing I would have immediately hit her. As soon as she glanced left FSD hit the brakes immediately, but not too hard, just enough to bring the Cybertruck from 15 mph to 0 mph in about a second, stopping about 8 feet short of the pedestrian crossing. This all happened in the blink of an eye, she didn't even have to glance left again, she immediately saw that the Cybertruck had braked and continued in front without breaking stride. I couldn't believe the speed of reaction of the Cybertruck (or her ability to smoothly cross in front before the Cybertruck was even to zero mph). It was a stunning display of why FSD is better than even an alert human in most spur-of-the-moment decisions. I got the feeling she (the jogger) was pleasantly surprised how courteous (and aware) a Cybertruck driver was. I'm sure she had no clue it wasn't me who was so alert and courteous. And I am alert and courteous, but I don't think my reaction time is on par with FSD!



That's probably true, that FSD is already so good that the March of 9's (continuing refinement of edge cases) doesn't add significant convenience factor, at least not until it's so much safer than the average human that you do feel safe not paying attention at all (or summoning your vehicle to pick you up at the airport, etc).

FSD is already good enough that it adds considerably to my convenience factor simply by unloading rote memory driving tasks. I call that convenience because it frees up my faculties for other things and leaves me arriving feeling refreshed and ready to take on whatever is on the agenda, even when I'm just driving around the city streets of my small town.

99% of my FSD driving is using the Cybertruck or my wife's Model 3 Performance, both with Hardware 4. But last week I took my Model 3 Performance with Hardware 3 for a drive and was shocked by how much less capable it was! How quickly we forget how good we have it with the Cybertruck!

Had a similar experience to your jogger last week when approaching a cross walk in a 25-30mph shopping area with two lanes on either side of a landscape median. Walker in cross walk was blocked by my A-pillar and I never saw her as I was scouring other surroundings. Thankfully FSD was engaged and immediately got on the binders and stopped before the crosswalk and before I knew she was there. Thank you Elon and Tesla AI team!

 

[no%X#XMVk65v#cq]

Here's my "FSD is better at reading humans than I am" story. Pulling up to a red light, I'll be 2 or 3 cars back. Right about where I will be stopped is a pedestrian that I assume is waiting on a bus. I'm only thinking that stopping right beside them is going to be awkward, as some sort of interaction is likely. But the truck slows significantly before the person and stops. I'm confused. Person without flinching gives the quick "thank you" wave and crosses the street in front of me.

Not only did FSD correctly read the human's intentions better than me (an actual human), but it politely stopped short to allow them to jaywalk.

 

[Mark805]

To the OP - define next week please

 

[BengalBoy]

Just experienced a "sentient" moment in 007. In the turn left only lane controlled by the *arrow light*, the light changed giving me the right away. A beat-up mini-van approaching in the opposite lane was being driven by a man wearing a Giant CowBoy Hat and speeding. (I found the CowBoy Hat comical) Moving into the roadway, 007 stopped before completing the left to see if the man would be able to stop his van. He did, although he crossed over the stop line for his lane. FSD determined long before he arrived that he was speeding and could possibly run the stop light. After the van came to a stop, 007 completed the left turn.

 

[AWDMK4]

I think main weaknesses are phantom braking at night and it will weave around sealed cracks in the road. I also had it swerve around a plastic bag blowing in the wind....

Same happened to me the other day. In my M3P (HW4) with 14.2.2.5, a plastic grocery bag was blowing across the road, a few inches off the surface (R>L) and my M3 braked pretty damn hard. I had to hit the throttle to override. Glad no one was on my ass or I may have been hit. I don't recall this behavior with 13.x.

 

[CyberGus]

To the OP - define next week please

 

[AlDente]

Just finished the return trip and as predicted charged to 80% ($32@ Supercharger) for the return trip and arrived home at 20% SOC. There was no right line lane hugging nor road patch snakes it reacted to. Lots of big shadows on tight corners and FSD never lost it's composure.

The wife commented how nice it is to ride in our robot chauffeured Cybertruck on long 4 plus hour drives like that to the coast. We can really enjoy the groves of giant redwood trees and the amazing No Cal coastline while the Cybertruck negotiates these challenging roads. I'm talking about SR 128 and US Hwy 1 which are both serpentine with several single lane road closures.

There was a temporary (short term) lane closure with a signman and the Cybertruck slowed and stopped as directed, then proceeded when the signman directed (I did nothing) in the opposite lane for the short stretch (500 yds) of road and then smoothly moved back into the right lane when directed by cones and the other sign man at the end. It was yet another jaw dropping FSD moment. People who don't have this software have no idea how good it is.

 

[REM]

As soon as she glanced left FSD hit the brakes immediately, but not too hard, just enough to bring the Cybertruck from 15 mph to 0 mph in about a second, stopping about 8 feet short of the pedestrian crossing. This all happened in the blink of an eye, she didn't even have to glance left again, she immediately saw that the Cybertruck had braked and continued in front without breaking stride. I couldn't believe the speed of reaction of the Cybertruck (or her ability to smoothly cross in front before the Cybertruck was even to zero mph). It was a stunning display of why FSD is better than even an alert human in most spur-of-the-moment decisions. I got the feeling she (the jogger) was pleasantly surprised how courteous (and aware) a Cybertruck driver was. I'm sure she had no clue it wasn't me who was so alert and courteous. And I am alert and courteous, but I don't think my reaction time is on par with FSD!

Yesterday FSD managed to correctly stop at a split pedestrian crossing for a person who was stopping in the center section. Most people are jerks, and don't bother to learn or care about the fact that if there is a pedestrian in a split crossing, you MUST stop. even if they haven't reached your section yet.

Extremely dangerous crossings where most moron drivers wouldn't have a care in the world. FSD understands all the rules, and stopped well in advance.

It blows my mind that people even want to manually drive in traffic anymore.

 

[REM]

Just experienced a "sentient" moment in 007. In the turn left only lane controlled by the *arrow light*, the light changed giving me the right away. A beat-up mini-van approaching in the opposite lane was being driven by a man wearing a Giant CowBoy Hat and speeding. (I found the CowBoy Hat comical) Moving into the roadway, 007 stopped before completing the left to see if the man would be able to stop his van. He did, although he crossed over the stop line for his lane. FSD determined long before he arrived that he was speeding and could possibly run the stop light. After the van came to a stop, 007 completed the left turn.

 

[HaulingAss]

To the OP - define next week please

If last week was the reference week then "next week" would be this week. Right?

 

[Gaximus]

I'm especially skeptical because it was April 1st

This would be a horrible April Fools joke, because it is a product they are going to actually going to release. As in, 14.3 is coming, all the features are already known. That would be like an April fools joke saying the next iPhone will have a slightly better camera. Of course it will. A good April fools joke would be something that we don't think would be possible. Like "14.3 Coming with Ass to CT with auto opening doors when it picks you up at the curb. No need to even get your phone out, uses facial recognition, just wave at it as you come out of the store and it'll come by and pick you up". Now I want that feature.

 

[Gigahorse]

To the OP - define next week please

"Next" week

 

[sefar]

adding to the stories, my CB braked hard to avoid a cat running across the road. My dog was in the backseat and barked at the cat, then stumbled a bit in her seat. Emptied everything off my seats and almost out of my bladder. But I never want to hit an animal so that was good.

 

[Gigahorse]

adding to the stories, my CB braked hard to avoid a cat running across the road. My dog was in the backseat and barked at the cat, then stumbled a bit in her seat. Emptied everything off my seats and almost out of my bladder. But I never want to hit an animal so that was good.

I wonder if it checks for cars behind it prior to doing that.
I love the little woodland critters but if it comes down to me possibly squishing a squirrel or getting rear ended by a semi-truck following close behind I will take the first option please.

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