"FSD is a few months away" for Cybertruck, says Elon Musk (5/9/24)

[JayWebbMD]

I would think that every model of Tesla needs its own training data for FSD. Unless the vehicle has exactly the same dimensions and exact same camera placement. Its AI, so it isn’t taught to look at things and judge distances, it’s just taking image characteristics and matching it up with what it’s seen in training and trying to recreate new images that match what it expects to see. So when looking at a frontal view of the road, the height and distance between the cameras makes a big difference. Directly porting the software from another model would be like moving your eyes another inch apart and asking you to walk a straight line. You’d see double and your brain would have a lot of trouble with depth perception. I don’t know if they actually train their models using data from customers driving, but I suspect they don’t. So it will take a little while to get the training data they need.

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[Giskard]

No FSD for Cybertruck for the first year makes no sense. On the last earnings call Elon and another dude confirmed that licensing FSD to other OEMs was basically plug and play. Sell them the license and hardware and flip a switch, and voila, FSD.
And no way 4-wheel steer matters. I guess Elon lied on the earnings call.
I don't think Tesla should be delaying FSD on Cybertruck any longer and should be honest as to why.

Pretty much all cars other OEMs would be looking to license FSD for also do not have rear steering to worry about. Also once Tesla has a model that works with rear steering for the CT it should make it easier for other rear steer vehicles (e.g., larger variants of the next gen platform). And even if an OEM signs an agreement to license FSD this year it'll likely be 2-3 years before they start selling a vehicle that includes it. It takes a long time for them to adjust their designs and manufacturing lines.

Oh, and anyone that's ever had to drive a rear steer vehicle (e.g., combine harvester) would know it definitely takes some getting used to. I totally disagree with your opinion that "no way 4-wheel steer matters". Here is one of many conversations about this from X:

 

[Darthamerica]

Just Imagine the FUD from a FSD CT accident right now. I think it’s better to be patient and trust that Tesla knows best when the feature is ready. Patience…

 

[mhaze]

No FSD for Cybertruck for the first year makes no sense. On the last earnings call Elon and another dude confirmed that licensing FSD to other OEMs was basically plug and play. Sell them the license and hardware and flip a switch, and voila, FSD.
And no way 4-wheel steer matters. I guess Elon lied on the earnings call.
I don't think Tesla should be delaying FSD on Cybertruck any longer and should be honest as to why.

I will eagerly download the updates for auto steer and FSD when they are ready.

The criticisms of yesterday's FSD are quite irrelevant because I'll be downloading tomorrow's FSD.

 

[getsometom]

I’m still under the “I’ll believe it when it see it” mentality for FSD on the Cybertruck

 

[65SoYoLO]

Few months....hummmmm. In Musk months that means a year or two?

I was thinking the same thing. does he know a "few months" means TWO MONTHS, not two years?

 

[Darthamerica]

I will eagerly download the updates for auto steer and FSD when they are ready.

The criticisms of yesterday's FSD are quite irrelevant because I'll be downloading tomorrow's FSD.

I’d be surprised if it’s “only” Autosteer.

 

[Mal]

I'm in the camp that they shouldn't take the $12k for FSD until it's available on the truck. You're still committing to buying it at $12k, but the money shouldn't change hands until delivery of FSD.

That, or give those that already paid in full $99/month in free charging until FSD is available.

Either would be more fair than holding the money and not delivering or delivering in Elon time.

 

[Crissa]

I don't understand why anyone thinks it has to do with rear steering, rear steering makes it act more like a smaller car, not less.

Joe Tegtmeyer is thousands of miles from the autonomy team, so I'm not sure why he's a source on this.

-Crissa

 

[mhaze]

I’d be surprised if it’s “only” Autosteer.

Sometime in the past Autosteer was a stand alone product, but in the future won't it just be a constrained FSD?

 

[mhaze]

I'm in the camp that they shouldn't take the $12k for FSD until it's available on the truck. You're still committing to buying it at $12k, but the money shouldn't change hands until delivery of FSD.

That, or give those that already paid in full $99/month in free charging until FSD is available.

Either would be more fair than holding the money and not delivering or delivering in Elon time.

Now what was that famous line by P. T. Barnum?

But people sure enjoyed those circuses!

 

[RonGonRetired]

FSD update 5/9/24 from Elon Musk:

We must focus on FSD for the other 99% of the fleet.

Cybertruck FSD is a few months away.

So in Elon speak that could be few=8-48

 

[Darthamerica]

Sometime in the past Autosteer was a stand alone product, but in the future won't it just be a constrained FSD?

I still have my old MS with AP1 and Autosteer. But that system is a lot different and rather hard coded. Considering Tesla’s position on reducing cost, It doesn’t seem like Tesla would want to dedicate resources to what’s effectively an obsolete feature to satisfy the few of us with Cybertrucks. My guess is they are working on CT FSD and we’ll see it sometime during the summer/fall. That way they leverage synergies with the rest of the fleet.

 

[batlag]

FSD update 5/9/24 from Elon Musk:

We must focus on FSD for the other 99% of the fleet.

Cybertruck FSD is a few months away.

Well, with how Elon is with timelines, I fear we don’t see it till 2025. Hope like he’ll I’m wrong.

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