"FSD is a few months away" for Cybertruck, says Elon Musk (5/9/24)

[Dmayo305]

Why does everyone act like Tesla is still a strapped for cash start-up? Especially Tesla. Look, if TWRAPS or another small business on this forum wanted to ask for some grace for a minute while they get some wins, I'm all about it. Tesla, not so much.

My bad, @DumpsterFire - if that sounded like a personal attack, it wasn't. I hear that line a lot and I just disagree with it. Tesla is the 15th most valuable company in the world by market cap (roughly $555B). They can afford to pay someone to add basic lane keeping assistance TODAY. They can afford to pay a team to fix the aero covers, TODAY. Money makes the world go round, and they have lots of it.

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[RickBush]

I don't even like FSD to be honest. I want autopilot for those long highway trips. I am a much more aggressive driver than FSD and I just end up turning it off quickly. Autopilot is a life saver.

Use the latest autopilot it drives more aggressive 12.3.6

 

[CyberGus]

FSD update 5/9/24 from Elon Musk:

We must focus on FSD for the other 99% of the fleet.

Cybertruck FSD is a few months away.

Maybe the FSD team just needs to hire a few more people ?‍

 

[ChristoN]

I don't mind this, considering the beast is taking a while, might be worth just changing the interior to make sure I get it late this year. By then FSD or autopilot will be ready and they will have addressed more issues with the truck, and it may even arrive as a 2025 model. I love FSD and use it almost every day on my new model S and the one prior to that. I don't however like the cabin camera, I was spoiled in my 21 MS LR because I was grandfathered in without the cabin camera.

 

[Jimbo Ringo]

I think a lot of people would be happy with getting basic autopilot at this point.

Absolutely, just give us the “keep it in its lane” ability along with the existing cruise control.

 

[Sturdybirdy]

So the CT doesn’t have any advanced cruise control or lane keeping assistance?

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

FFS, it blows my mind how low of a priority the CT is to Tesla.

You didn’t read Elon’s really short comment? He said they need to focus on the other 99% of the fleet. Tesla is focused on building more Cybertrucks (minimal layoffs there) and eventually they will comprise more of the fleet and provide more data. I want it as much as anyone but we knew this was going to happen months ago.

 

[skinzy]

Few months....hummmmm. In Musk months that means a year or two?

 

[Giskard]

It stinks, but the Tesla autonomy team just has bigger fish to fry at the moment. It sounds like the issue (as someone else pointed out earlier) is the rear wheel steer which no other Tesla has had before. So they essentially have to retrain the "outputs" of AP and FSD to take that into account. Right now they're laser focused on iterating FSD in front of the 8/8 robotaxi reveal. There's also some early Model S/X owners that haven't gotten FSD v12 yet, just because they're a relatively small percentage of the fleet and Tesla's autonomy team can't spare the time right now. At least it sounds like they have plenty of compute available - that was a big bottleneck, too, until recently.

We'll just have to be patient. I, for one, would be thrilled to be "suffering" with no AP/FSD in my CT as mine hasn't arrived yet. And I use FSD all the time in my Model Y ...

 

[Cyberman]

FSD update 5/9/24 from Elon Musk:

We must focus on FSD for the other 99% of the fleet.

Cybertruck FSD is a few months away.

Yeah, like 48 months, right? I've heard enough false start dates from Tesla to know better. Just sayin'.
Anyone else believe? Elon is the original "manana"

 

[webspeedracer]

Agreed. At least I’m no longer backing into walls, trees, curbs and assorted potted plants anymore now that my brain isn’t waiting for the beeps…. ?

Yeah same, have marred both rear bumper corners despite extra caution, and never backed into anything in 8 yrs driving MS and MX. ?‍

 

[CTInProcess]

Just need AP.

FSD is a waste of money

 

[batlag]

FSD update 5/9/24 from Elon Musk:

We must focus on FSD for the other 99% of the fleet.

Cybertruck FSD is a few months away.

Thanks for passing along the info admin. So can anyone figure out what the actual reason is? Is it just that the steer by wire operates so much differently than the rest of the fleet, so they are figuring out how that’s going to integrate with FSD?

 

[CTInProcess]

It stinks, but the Tesla autonomy team just has bigger fish to fry at the moment. It sounds like the issue (as someone else pointed out earlier) is the rear wheel steer which no other Tesla has had before. So they essentially have to retrain the "outputs" of AP and FSD to take that into account. Right now they're laser focused on iterating FSD in front of the 8/8 robotaxi reveal. There's also some early Model S/X owners that haven't gotten FSD v12 yet, just because they're a relatively small percentage of the fleet and Tesla's autonomy team can't spare the time right now. At least it sounds like they have plenty of compute available - that was a big bottleneck, too, until recently.

We'll just have to be patient. I, for one, would be thrilled to be "suffering" with no AP/FSD in my CT as mine hasn't arrived yet. And I use FSD all the time in my Model Y ...

Exactly! 4 years wasn’t enough time to R&D AP with RWS…

 

[webspeedracer]

Couldn't CTs at least get Autosteer portion of Autopilot, for freeways?? That’s basic Mobileye stuff on my 2016 MS, FFS.

Just finished SLC-Tahoe-SLC, prepping for UT-VT-UT in late June (which I do every summer), and actually prefer AP over FSD for long freeway drives. I may choose the Rivian for this summers trip if no AP and we have a NACS adapter by then.

Basic AP/NOA would be fine for CT until they’re ready to roll out FSD beta (in my ‘18 MX) needed a lot of supervision with lane changing and other odd behaviors on my 2023 XC trip, does that weird increasing follow-distance creep behavior that is more aggravating than relaxing (even on Mad Max). And Mad Max setting makes it change lanes more often, requiring extra brain cycles and more stress than just handling all driving myself, when all I really want from that setting is to stay in the respectful nether reaches of a Semi draft.

Since you mention rear-steer as an programming obstacle (good point), the engineers should simply disable Rear-steer for Basic AP on the freeway, and just port the fleet AP to the truck (recalibrated for CT camera locations). That would satisfy the majority of desired use-case for now, I would think? I wouldn’t use FSD in a metro anyway…only reason I’ve tried it periodically is to gauge progress of the FSD team. Besides, with edge-to-edge ML now, we should be teaching the truck how to drive anyway!

It stinks, but the Tesla autonomy team just has bigger fish to fry at the moment. It sounds like the issue (as someone else pointed out earlier) is the rear wheel steer which no other Tesla has had before. So they essentially have to retrain the "outputs" of AP and FSD to take that into account. Right now they're laser focused on iterating FSD in front of the 8/8 robotaxi reveal. There's also some early Model S/X owners that haven't gotten FSD v12 yet, just because they're a relatively small percentage of the fleet and Tesla's autonomy team can't spare the time right now. At least it sounds like they have plenty of compute available - that was a big bottleneck, too, until recently.

We'll just have to be patient. I, for one, would be thrilled to be "suffering" with no AP/FSD in my CT as mine hasn't arrived yet. And I use FSD all the time in my Model Y ...

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