Cybertruck sideswiped on highway. ROAD RAGE?

[mongo]

Watching the original 4 second video, I think you will see this is not the case. Put your cursor on the car up by the bridge and play the video. You will see there is no appreciable side-to side motion until impact happens.

This is also one more way to verify the way the nose suddenly rose due to acceleration and remained there until impact.

I appreciate you looking at this from a fact-based perspective, and trying to find an alternate explanation, that doesn't require a sudden acceleration, but I think if you examine this theory more thoroughly, it doesn't hold together.

One method to examine the possibility of phone movement creating the illusion that the nose suddenly rose, and remained high, is to compare the distance of the bottom of the concrete jersey barrier to the inset video thumbnail of the left camera through the duration of the original 4 second video. The conclusion is clear. The video doesn't lie.

Putting your cursor on the small car in the background as the 4 second video plays is quite useful to debunk the idea that it could all be an illusion caused by the Cybertruck shifting to the left. That happens, but not until the point of impact.

I'm pretty sure the three images I posted were all precollision, but these two definitely are (and all removed iPhone shifts):
Look at the termination point of the left lane line on the main image. Also look at its position relative to the text in the left camera thumbnail. It goes from the right of the 'f' to the left.

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[HaulingAss]

I'm pretty sure the three images I posted were all precollision, but these two definitely are (and all removed iPhone shifts):
Look at the termination point of the left lane line on the main image. Also look at its position relative to the text in the left camera thumbnail. It goes from the right of the 'f' to the left.

Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying, the Cybertruck gradually shifted left in the lane while the minivan was overtaking on the right. I agree with that, but it can't fully explain the sudden nose-high attitude the Cybertruck suddenly takes on and maintains until collision.

It sounds like you are saying you don't believe the Cybertruck accelerated the last 1.5 seconds before impact. Am I misunderstanding you?

 

[kbolt]

Looks like you accelerated hard at the last second. Did you?

Speed looks pretty consistent

 

[Jethro]

You can ask a lawyer to go for fees and other "damages" (i.e. time/suffering), etc, and then there is no contingency... you get the whole ball of wax and they get the fee. However, IANAL and I have no idea how easy or difficult it is to get legal fees back and some kind of punitive damages that has no health issues.

Good advice! Unfortunately the attoney’s I’ve spoken with don’t see a lot of money unless there are severe personal injuries. Be great if Tesla (or somebody) offered ”road rage” insurance to protect the innocent.

I would love to recover the time I’ve spent defending my honor against ”Asses” on this forum. I don’t understand the aggression.

 

[Jethro]

My analysis is not malicious at all, it is based solely on the evidence presented, primarily the fact that two seconds before impact the nose of your Cybertruck rises up suddenly and stays there until impact. This kind of motion cannot be explained by bumps in the pavement due to the fact that all suspensions have a natural resonance frequency well above 15 Hz (which is the frequency required for the nose to suddenly rise up and stay there for two seconds due to a bump in the road).

To hold the nose high for 1.5 to 2 seconds requires a steady force be applied to the chassis. Unless you believe in magical forces, the only force strong enough to do that is the sustained acceleration force of the Cyberbeast you were driving. Period.

The undeniable conclusion, based solely on the video evidence, is that your Cybertruck accelerated strongly for 1.5 to 2 seconds before impact (as if you just noticed him out your driver side window).

In reviewing the longer video, I have to conclude your left lane usage does not appear to be egregious. However, without speed data, I cannot conclude that with certainty. My analysis relies on the assumption that your speed was steady and didn't vary to make it difficult to get around you. I have little to go on either way so I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were cruising at a steady speed (until you suddenly hit the accelerator seconds before impact).

Why do you think my evidence-based analysis is malicious? I can only form an opinion based upon the actual evidence. Your claim that you don't recall hitting the accelerator right before impact doesn't carry much weight in my analysis since it is directly contradicted by the video evidence.

Just the facts, man. Let's not turn this personal. I think you probably posted this to see how the evidence you collected would appear to a neutral third party. I'm giving you that feedback. Take it in the constructive manner it is presented. I'm sorry you were involved, hopefully an honest reflection on what actually happened can help you avoid having the same thing happen to you with another driver that is just as bad as the driver depicted by your dashcam.

H.ASS, your conclusions are based upon limited information AND possibly your own bias/education/experience.
Analysis/logic is backwards and unnecessary negative.
Perhaps consider another hobby and/or therapy.

 

[Jethro]

This is a strawman argument. I didn't deny the OP changed speed at all. I pointed out that it is completely irrelevant. Without a turn signal from the minivan the CT changing speed is normal for cruising down a highway.

Also it is perfectly within the laws of physics to have less resistance to wind when another vehicle passes by you.

Upon reviewing the longer video several times i noticed:
-the horizon bounces up and down several times
-the speed is constant and consistent with use or cruise control
-I was actively passing other vehicles.
-my vehicle went down a hill about 1/2 mile and was climbing another hill when accident occurred. CC may have deccelerated then accelerated during this period…but nothing dramatic as I recall.
-the driver appear to be looking at my vehicle.
-the other vehicle did not signal, had excessive speed and was in my lane in the side camera.
-the other vehicle appears to have be following me aggressively for several miles. I was unaware he was trying to pass.

Thanks to everyone for the analysis. I posted this more to see if others have encounter aggressive drivers and what they did to de-escalate the situation.

 

[Jethro]

For fun I floored it (well, "AWD floored it" lol) and couldn't really visualize a "nose-high" effect on the video. Between the low CoG and self-leveling air suspension, the truck stays mostly level.

I've seen videos of Beasts launching off the line, and there's definitely a noticeable shift from an outside observer, but the internal cameras are not a great measure of in-flight acceleration.

LOL! I’ve tried similar and have not noticed a significant hood line vs. horizon change for any length of time while traveling at speed…definitely at launch tho. Seems hard to quantify.

I’m surprise the CT doesn’t record speed/braking/signal/sound conditions in addition to video.

 

[kpanda17]

Recently my wife and I were returning from a series of car shows and got sideswiped on the highway.

The other driver was passing us on the right, seemed to be speeding excessively, appeared to be in our lane when he was behind us and may have been following us for some time. We cant say if he was aggressive, under the influence or distracted, but hit us HARD!

Originally we thought it was a “hit and run” as the other driver left the seen without a word. Turned out to be a local resident who was quickly interviewed then released from a parking lot. He is claiming it’s our fault and has filed a claim. The video seems to show otherwise.

Anyone else had problems?

I’m guessing we need a good lawyer familiar with Kansas. Thoughts, recommendations? Anything would be greatly appreciated…we are very shaken and car shows are over.

VIDEO:

I‘m sorry that happened to you. Unfortunately, I know this far too well. For this happened to me twice. Hopefully, not to my CB when it comes in. For sure, you were not at fault. The law of the land dictates if you’re in your lane and another vehicle comes into your lane it is other other person‘s fault. Definitely, send that video to your insurance and let them handle it. Furthermore, file a police report quickly. Insurance company will need this too. Added plus to filing is the other person will get a ticket. Even though it won’t make the damage on your CT go away, but you will feel a little better.

Looks innocent, but they seems distracted, I dont see road rage

 

[Crissa]

Good advice! Unfortunately the attoney’s I’ve spoken with don’t see a lot of money unless there are severe personal injuries. Be great if Tesla (or somebody) offered ”road rage” insurance to protect the innocent.

I would love to recover the time I’ve spent defending my honor against ”Asses” on this forum. I don’t understand the aggression.

Usually, 'Uninsured motorist' insurance will cover hit and runs.

If it doesn't, I would want to know what company is being so poor so I can avoid them.

-Crissa

 

[abrader]

I was driving my 3 yr old to a public park yesterday in downtown Orlando and had someone come up behind me in the left and aggressively beep and try to psyche out swerve in my lane to try to run me off the road or make me crash into the car to my right. I’m not that jumpy tho and didn’t budge.

Later some ford f150 aggressively cut me off in a lane change but that didn’t feel as aimed at the cybertruck as the earlier attack.

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