My Cybertruck rear ended a Silverado. No Collision Avoidance Assist

[jerhenderson]

Why did the Silverado stop in the middle of traffic? There was no one in front of him. I guess he wanted to see the Cyber Truck - and he got his wish.

Send video to your insurance company and they may determine Silverado is at fault.

Lol not likely.... the CT driver wasn't paying attention.

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[jerhenderson]

In watching the video, it appears that you weren't paying attention.

 

[jcktrb]

"I Rear Ended A Silverado" There
Fixed the title for you. ??

I didn't make the title, the moderators changed it.

Yes, the Silverado slammed the brakes to avoid the car in front of him switching lanes. It's possible that he was on his phone and didn't realize that the car in front of him hasn't fully switched lanes.

As for me, I was checking my rear view mirror for the next lane change as there was a wide opening that was looking to seize.

The navigation recalculated to a faster route but it involved taking an immediate exit.

 

[Obtuse]

I think you mean YOU rear ended a Silverado, not the Cybertruck.

 

[rizvend]

I didn't make the title, the moderators changed it.

Yes, the Silverado slammed the brakes to avoid the car in front of him switching lanes. It's possible that he was on his phone and didn't realize that the car in front of him hasn't fully switched lanes.

As for me, I was checking my rear view mirror for the next lane change as there was a wide opening that was looking to seize.

The navigation recalculated to a faster route but it involved taking an immediate exit.

Not sure how that's possible because FSD is not out yet and cruise control is still very limited. ?

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

Now that I think of it, about a month ago as I was doing a U-Turn at a light, the car in front of me which was also doing a U-Turn was pretty slow to do so, and suddenly collision avoidance slammed on the breaks and sounded the alert. Caught me & the car behind me completely by surprise because we were all just rolling to that U-turn at less than 10mph so it was a very unnecessary overreaction.

The takeaway for me is the collision avoidance is hit or miss (ha!) on the Cybertruck. I've been driving Teslas since 2017 and I don't recall the behavior being as inconsistent on the Model S, 3 or Y.

The Tesla collision avoidance is not really that. It is more of a collision reduction. It is intended to reduce the risk to passengers by reducing the speed of the collision, but it doesn't stop the car. The OP was driving slowly so there was nothing for the collision avoidance to do.

This same thing happened to me with my Model Y last year in a parking lot. I pulled into a space and went for food. At the time there was no one to the right of me. When I got back there was an extended-cab pickup to my right. I forgot to back out straight but left the wheel where it was when I pulled in, and hit the pickup. Totally my stupidity but there was not even a bleep from the Tesla.

I am certain that most everyone will agree that what we 'want' in a car is a proactive collision avoidance, meaning it will take over to keep a collision from happening at all. FSD might do that because it is doing everything, but what we have today in collision avoidance does not.

Why the Silverado stopped is unclear but you took your eyes off the Silverado at the wrong time. We all do this, and occasionally we get caught. A true collision avoidance would have protected you.

 

[QuantMech]

These systems are not perfect but they are very helpful most of the time in my opinion/experience. There are times when sytem overreacts and times when it under reacts. There is still a lot of work to be done to make these systems better and closer to Full Self Driving(FSD). Poorly marked roads, bad weather are 2 issues that are in dire need of being addressed In my opinion/experience.

In this particular instance the system should have been able to warn at the very least possibly interact but i am Leary at times with some of the over reactions that can also cause accidents. I don’t want to sound harsh but ultimately Tesla driver should have been paying attention to car in front of him, rear ending someone is rarely fault of vehicle rear ended exception is definitely insurance scammers. Glad no one was hurt and damage was relatively mild.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

That is strange, the CT probably just needs more data. There are 240 million + Tesla cars on the road, sending back training data to Tesla. Only <20k CTs on the road. Tesla just needs more collisions to know how to train the data. So we just need more people not paying attention, driving there CTs, and it'll get better.?

240 million Teslas on the road? I don't think so. There might be 4 million. Typo? But definitely you are right on the number of CTs.

 

[Gaximus]

240 million Teslas on the road? I don't think so. There might be 4 million. Typo? But definitely you are right on the number of CTs.

You are correct, I read the stat sheet wrong(quickly), one source says 4.9 million total. I thought it was quite high, but assumed it was doing really well over seas.

 

[carsly]

You are correct, I read the stat sheet wrong(quickly), one source says 4.9 million total. I thought it was quite high, but assumed it was doing really well over seas.

Over 6.2 million and counting...

https://autos.yahoo.com/tesla-achie... vehicle maker Tesla just,the Model S in 2012.

 

[Jhodgesatmb]

More worried about that dumb A$$ motorcycle splitting the lane, CA isn't Afghanistan or Singapore and we have laws for that!

Lane splitting isn't illegal in California, and the origins in air-cooled motorcycles made sense (not just for motorcycle cops on Harleys). There is no question that lane splitting brings with it risks for bikers and drivers alike, and requires hyper alertness. I split lanes the entire time I lived in Los Angeles and there were a few dicey situations but I never had a collision and am, clearly, still around. If you could explain why you mentioned Afghanistan and Singapore maybe we could better evaluate your position.

 

[CTInProcess]

Lmao….

Don’t worry, that Silverado owner most likely placed his CT order right after seeing how it can’t be damaged.

 

[Woodrick]

There is no FSD for Cybertrucks yet, nor auto pilot.

But there is TACC, which does not appear to be in use. Gapping of vehicle before incident doesn't appear to be consistent with TACC.

 

[Woodrick]

More worried about that dumb A$$ motorcycle splitting the lane, CA isn't Afghanistan or Singapore and we have laws for that!

And in CA it is stupidly legal! Lane splitting allowed. Scares the crap out of me.

And the bikes have had the balls to knock Tesla mirrors off, because FSD keeps the cars in the middle of the lane, not giving the lane splitters room to get through.

 

[Woodrick]

I'm looking at it and wondering why the driver merged behind the Silverado when there was a huge gap and room to get in front of it.

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