Cybertruck “Slow boiling Frog” moment

[gadgetmerc]

Put things in perspective. The S&P500 is a good proxy for the state of our economy. It went up twice as much as the original cost estimate of the Cybertruck over the same period. The leftover profit was almost a shock to me when I cashed out the money I had saved for my AWD in an index fund.

I have 3500 miles on my Beast... I'm just saying that I can understand how greatly price can impact perception.

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[GuyV]

I have 3500 miles on my Beast... I'm just saying that I can understand how greatly price can impact perception.

One should never let shallow perceptions get in the way of serious value analysis.

 

[SentinelOne]

Pass the granade!

 

[eswimm]

Concept vehicles specs rarely match production. In this case, the range estimates of the extremely high power vehicles have all been excessive because battery performance at the time required 200kWh packs to actually generate the current needed for those HP ratings. There's no way a production version of the roadster is going to achieve ~1s 0-60 and have 600mi range. The CT could have had more battery in it, but part of me wonders if there was a 10,000lb GWVR rating they were worried about.

In either case, concept vehicles aren't promises, otherwise there are a lot of promises being broken.

We didn't have 4-wheel steering in the concept, so they have over-delivered in some areas as well.

 

[FitNess]

I went from full size Range Rover to G63 to Cyber Beast.

Incredibly comfortable ride to less comfortable ride and cramped to holy crap my guests have luxury leg room to spare and middle of the previous two ride comfort.

Comfortable power to noisy and more power to stealthy quiet my lord this thing is stupid quick!

Decent cargo space to much less cargo space to.. I can’t use all of this space..

Great sound system to great sound system to a great sound system.

I can keep going but this Cyber Beast creates more parked conversations then anything I have ever owned. Is faster zero to any US legal speed limit then anything I have ever had with more then 2 wheels.
I probably shouldn’t feel so safe in it but I do and it cost me HALF of what my usual interests do and a third of the insurance.

Yes I’d love an electric 4 wheeler to come with it, but I wouldn’t use it much. Yes I’d love a tailgate with a ramp but also wouldn’t use it much. I already don’t use quite a lot of this things toys, my brain would explode if I got it all ?

Did I mention how cheap it is compared to other vehicles that create this much public interest when you pull up or leave?

 

[Clintmilt7]

Tesla didn't claim the Cybertruck would have bullet-proof glass. That was misinformation propagated by the media. It does have tougher glass than other available trucks which should reduce the likelihood of having to go to the auto glass shop for rock chips and cracks. But it's still susceptible to damage, just tougher.

The noise and misinformation around the Cybertruck, and Tesla's outspoken leader, is deafening and many sheeple can't help but to think much of it is true. But when I watch my Sentry Mode videos of people checking out a Cybertruck for the first time, with a mixture of awe, confusion and delight on their faces, I know that simply looking at one is helping to reverse some of the Reddit misinformation and hate. God help them if they actually had a chance to drive one and live with it for a week or two! Minds would be blown as they realized just how wrong their preconceived notions were.

How true it that! It is a technological marvel that amazes me every time I drive it even after 2 months of ownership. This Beast is a work of art and break through in our automobile/ truck industry. It’s a car with truck features. I could give a dam about only having 320 miles of range and maybe a 100 miles if towing over 10,000 lbs. Me, my camping days are over and I sold my ski boat. I just love the idea that I can blow the doors off anything that pulls up next to me.?????

 

[flyinglow]

I think that, when it came time to actually make a production vehicle, reality set in and they used techniques they were mostly familiar with and knew how to make work. Musk has a tendency to use superlatives that are misleading. Exoskeleton being one of them. Exterior body panels on any vehicle contribute, in some degree, to its rigidity and strength but it also has to be crash safe/deformable and repairable. I would imagine that a true exoskeleton would be a bear to engineer for all the requirements of a passenger vehicle. Some of the early single seat monocoque race cars could probably be described as having an exoskeleton but that has gone the way of the Dodo. Race cars today have a safety cell tub surrounded by sacrificial body panels that bleed off energy as they break/deform in a crash. The Cybertruck structure may seem disappointing to you but it probably serves that purpose while still giving us the promised stainless steel shell,

 

[Ray in montana]

Does anybody else feel like a new design of the Cybertruck is a “slow boil” of a frog? The initial vision is a large truck with a stainless steel body bent in right places and a unicast that transfers the load from the frame to the body of the truck. It looks massive, impressive, and cyber… Glass is able to withstand rocks, sides the bullets and it seats 6. Moreover, it is going to be so cheap to produce and the range will kick such an ass(500 miles), that it will be a game changer and disruptive for existing truck market. New Cybertruck is the aluminum cast with the raw unambiguous stainless steel plate panels that are thin, unbend, cut the skin, fastened to aluminum cast, smaller truck in size, standard glass that cracks left and right based on feedback, price tag out of this world and nothing but problems. I am a die hard fan for Tesla but I am feeling like something is just wrong between what I have being waiting for 5 years and what is offered. Does anybody else realizing what is happening? Or we are just ready to jump on any grenade as long as it say “Cybertruck” in Tesla’s font on it?

Just wondered if you own one? I have had mine for 4 months and have put thousands of miles on it and it has had zero problems. I love it and without a though i would buy it again. It is without a doubt the most amazing vehicle i have ever owned. I if have such doubt then dont buy one.

 

[Nolacyber]

Does anybody else feel like a new design of the Cybertruck is a “slow boil” of a frog? The initial vision is a large truck with a stainless steel body bent in right places and a unicast that transfers the load from the frame to the body of the truck. It looks massive, impressive, and cyber… Glass is able to withstand rocks, sides the bullets and it seats 6. Moreover, it is going to be so cheap to produce and the range will kick such an ass(500 miles), that it will be a game changer and disruptive for existing truck market. New Cybertruck is the aluminum cast with the raw unambiguous stainless steel plate panels that are thin, unbend, cut the skin, fastened to aluminum cast, smaller truck in size, standard glass that cracks left and right based on feedback, price tag out of this world and nothing but problems. I am a die hard fan for Tesla but I am feeling like something is just wrong between what I have being waiting for 5 years and what is offered. Does anybody else realizing what is happening? Or we are just ready to jump on any grenade as long as it say “Cybertruck” in Tesla’s font on it?

I do t believe he owns one. His post is extremely troll like and actually contains nothing useful.

 

[Tecyber1]

Does anybody else feel like a new design of the Cybertruck is a “slow boil” of a frog? The initial vision is a large truck with a stainless steel body bent in right places and a unicast that transfers the load from the frame to the body of the truck. It looks massive, impressive, and cyber… Glass is able to withstand rocks, sides the bullets and it seats 6. Moreover, it is going to be so cheap to produce and the range will kick such an ass(500 miles), that it will be a game changer and disruptive for existing truck market. New Cybertruck is the aluminum cast with the raw unambiguous stainless steel plate panels that are thin, unbend, cut the skin, fastened to aluminum cast, smaller truck in size, standard glass that cracks left and right based on feedback, price tag out of this world and nothing but problems. I am a die hard fan for Tesla but I am feeling like something is just wrong between what I have being waiting for 5 years and what is offered. Does anybody else realizing what is happening? Or we are just ready to jump on any grenade as long as it say “Cybertruck” in Tesla’s font on it?

I think waiting on your CT has led you to overthink it. I don't see the CT getting cheaper to manufacture at all. If anything, it will remain relatively consistent. What I do see is quite a few updates over the years once more and more of them are on the road Tesla gets feedback etc.

One of the updates I expect is the rearview mirror being video output from the rear camera! That one is so obvious I am shocked Tesla didn't do it!

If anything you should be happy that what you will take delivery of will be far superior to what you saw 5+ years ago!

 

[jameskk]

Does anybody else feel like a new design of the Cybertruck is a “slow boil” of a frog? The initial vision is a large truck with a stainless steel body bent in right places and a unicast that transfers the load from the frame to the body of the truck. It looks massive, impressive, and cyber… Glass is able to withstand rocks, sides the bullets and it seats 6. Moreover, it is going to be so cheap to produce and the range will kick such an ass(500 miles), that it will be a game changer and disruptive for existing truck market. New Cybertruck is the aluminum cast with the raw unambiguous stainless steel plate panels that are thin, unbend, cut the skin, fastened to aluminum cast, smaller truck in size, standard glass that cracks left and right based on feedback, price tag out of this world and nothing but problems. I am a die hard fan for Tesla but I am feeling like something is just wrong between what I have being waiting for 5 years and what is offered. Does anybody else realizing what is happening? Or we are just ready to jump on any grenade as long as it say “Cybertruck” in Tesla’s font on it?

Dude, it's you NOT the Cybertruck.

 

[Macgreiner]

Does anybody else feel like a new design of the Cybertruck is a “slow boil” of a frog? The initial vision is a large truck with a stainless steel body bent in right places and a unicast that transfers the load from the frame to the body of the truck. It looks massive, impressive, and cyber… Glass is able to withstand rocks, sides the bullets and it seats 6. Moreover, it is going to be so cheap to produce and the range will kick such an ass(500 miles), that it will be a game changer and disruptive for existing truck market. New Cybertruck is the aluminum cast with the raw unambiguous stainless steel plate panels that are thin, unbend, cut the skin, fastened to aluminum cast, smaller truck in size, standard glass that cracks left and right based on feedback, price tag out of this world and nothing but problems. I am a die hard fan for Tesla but I am feeling like something is just wrong between what I have being waiting for 5 years and what is offered. Does anybody else realizing what is happening? Or we are just ready to jump on any grenade as long as it say “Cybertruck” in Tesla’s font on it?

I've only driven the truck twice and it is fabulous. I'm looking forward to owning one.

Apart from a couple of hyperbole lines in the OP post - I can't find anything in what he has shared in this post to be untrue. Yes it has some extra features but it is way over the projected price and way under the projected range. That is just fact. You can either say yeah I know - I'm still going to buy it (like me). Or you can say nope I'm out, like many I know. Each to their own.

 

[CyberGus]

but it is way over the projected price and way under the projected range. That is just fact.

The AWD is right on target for the projected “dual motor” range. The price is right in line as well, If you adjust for inflation and the “early adopter” FS upcharge.

 

[Crissa]

I don't see the CT getting cheaper to manufacture at all.

Just having practice at making something, will make it cheaper to produce - you end up with institutional expertise that reduces the labor hours per vehicle from on the floor to training to implementing minor tweaks in the layout and use of automation and with Tesla, even the design of the product.

On top of that, alot of the expense up front is straight up capital and R&D costs of implementing their design.

-Crissa

 

[Tecyber1]

Just having practice at making something, will make it cheaper to produce - you end up with institutional expertise that reduces the labor hours per vehicle from on the floor to training to implementing minor tweaks in the layout and use of automation and with Tesla, even the design of the product.

On top of that, alot of the expense up front is straight up capital and R&D costs of implementing their design.

-Crissa

True but I guess I should have focused on Tesla's GP (Gross Profit)....sure it may become cheaper for them to manufacture but will that translate to cheaper cost to you and I? Perhaps but if they can maintain and or even better increase margins, they will!

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