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When making a left, my FSD seems to drive into the oncoming lane before moving right. It's pretty dangerous if a car was coming head on. If a car was comig it'd be a dangerous sitatuion. When I drive, I might cross the line a tad, but the CT in FSD is fully entering the left lane. I reported it to Tesla when I had to turn it off so I hope they review those.
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I understand it's the best thing out there for the moment in terms of being close to autonomous but it certainly isn't good enough yet to drive itself without interventions in urban areas. If Robotaxis is the same as FSD 12.5.5, it would be highly risky I think. I love Tesla so I really want it to be good but it cuts corners too sharply and also misses things that it cannot classify such as plastic roadsigns that stick up in the middle of the street (it does see cones and other objects though). As an example of a dangerous scenario, mine made a turn and instead of going on the road, it went onto a local light rail track and followed that path instead which could be disastrous if one happened to have been oncoming.
Absolute nonsense. It’s called FSD ā€œ12.5.5ā€ which means it logically went through 12 versions and revisions. You think it stops with this one? They already have the next hardware lined up with different cameras and different chips with Ai5. It will keep getting better. Teslas are iPhones on wheels, they will continue to get better every year and the tech will change. By the time the robotaxi is ready it will be version 15.x.x etc…. Enough of these ridiculous comments.
 

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If robotaxis release with even similar or slightly better than the CT in software and capabilities it would be a disaster on day 1.
Robotaxi will be a phased approach, I think current one is great for level 4 autonomy, hardly ever have to intervene.
I think level 5 can be reached very soon, relatively speaking to how long it took to get here, in 2-3 yrs.
 

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Is what you said supposed to make sense?

It does all the driving things, but needs to be supervised to do them. With the goal of eventually not needing to be supervised.

What are you trying to say? That you can't understand the words which are on the page? There's no other way to name something that's supposed to be full autonomy eventually without it being in the name.

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I understand it's the best thing out there for the moment in terms of being close to autonomous but it certainly isn't good enough yet to drive itself without interventions in urban areas. If Robotaxis is the same as FSD 12.5.5, it would be highly risky I think. I love Tesla so I really want it to be good but it cuts corners too sharply and also misses things that it cannot classify such as plastic roadsigns that stick up in the middle of the street (it does see cones and other objects though). As an example of a dangerous scenario, mine made a turn and instead of going on the road, it went onto a local light rail track and followed that path instead which could be disastrous if one happened to have been oncoming.
Yes there are few white knuckle moments yet keep using it, just report any unusual incident regardless how little it may be via your voice control so they can collect the incoming data. To my it cuts way too close to the curbs, I don’t mind giving a right of way to the oncoming traffic but wait is rather long when there aren’t any oncoming traffic left,
 

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I understand it's the best thing out there for the moment in terms of being close to autonomous but it certainly isn't good enough yet to drive itself without interventions in urban areas. If Robotaxis is the same as FSD 12.5.5, it would be highly risky I think. I love Tesla so I really want it to be good but it cuts corners too sharply and also misses things that it cannot classify such as plastic roadsigns that stick up in the middle of the street (it does see cones and other objects though). As an example of a dangerous scenario, mine made a turn and instead of going on the road, it went onto a local light rail track and followed that path instead which could be disastrous if one happened to have been oncoming.
It’s called supervised for a reason. What you were supposed to do when it tried to turn down the light rail road was disengage FSD then leave a voice note ā€œhey it tried turn down a light rail roadā€ then the next time you drive past that road it would have been corrected
 

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I got it last Monday. It's been 99% flawless through complicated intersections with heavy traffic and through streets with heavy traffic and construction workers.
 


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I understand it's the best thing out there for the moment in terms of being close to autonomous but it certainly isn't good enough yet to drive itself without interventions in urban areas. If Robotaxis is the same as FSD 12.5.5, it would be highly risky I think. I love Tesla so I really want it to be good but it cuts corners too sharply and also misses things that it cannot classify such as plastic roadsigns that stick up in the middle of the street (it does see cones and other objects though). As an example of a dangerous scenario, mine made a turn and instead of going on the road, it went onto a local light rail track and followed that path instead which could be disastrous if one happened to have been oncoming.
It’s unsafe. I’ve tried it on a very easy drive/road close to my home and it’s super aggressive with the lane changes, it changes lanes when it doesn’t really need to even if the option to minimize lane changes is selected.
It either takes corners too sharply or too wide and sometimes it just slams on the brakes in the middle of the road when the next car ahead of me is over 1k feet away in front of me. I guess it gets confused by shadows or signs on an overpass, who the hell knows.

You’re not gonna find a lot of people who will agree with you here though, this place is full of blind fanatics who also happen to be apologists. I love our Teslas (we have a MY and a M3) but I won’t lie about FSD, it’s not ready and it isn’t safe.
 
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YOU should definitely not use it. Because, what you’re telling us is that YOU allowed your car to go onto a light rail track endangering yourself and others? The system is not for you. You are not responsible enough to use the tool, so - please don’t. Thank you.
I like how you’re placing blame on OP for FSD being unsafe and unreliable. That’s not the point of the post. Yes we should all be alert and ready to take over when FSD messes up, which happens a lot, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that FSD is not where Elon and his apologists claim it’s at.
 

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That's cool to say supervised, but why cause cognitive dissonance by saying "Full Self Driving" when it's not full self driving at all? I think that's where a lot of people get hung up.
EXACTLY THIS 100%! The naming convention is deceitful.
 

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I like how you’re placing blame on OP for FSD being unsafe and unreliable. That’s not the point of the post. Yes we should all be alert and ready to take over when FSD messes up, which happens a lot, but that doesn’t take away from the fact that FSD is not where Elon and his apologists claim it’s at.
I’m not an apologist; I’m a realist. OP is driving the car. He’s driving the car just as much as he would be if he were using any other driver assist tool such as adaptive cruise control.

He had to agree to those terms before he was allowed to turn full self driving on. There was even an additional pop-up saying that this was an advanced access beta and he needed to be extra careful and vigilant.

He wasn’t. He said ā€œhis car droveā€ into a place where it shouldn’t be - he failed to do his one job - supervise the car!

I’m unfazed by your objection to me calling out somebody for what they’ve done.

I’m probably not going to be somebody that you’ll enjoy engaging with.
 

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EXACTLY THIS 100%! The naming convention is deceitful.
Well, this was tried in court and the court did not agree.

But, we are a nation peopled by a preponderance of imbeciles so, for the record: Red Bull does not give you actual wings, and hot McDonald’s coffee is hot.
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