Eight Foot Bed on Cybertruck

[ScoobyDoo]

I voted that I'm good with 6.5' but I can definitely see there being a market for 8' bed. Maybe down the road have an 8' version with a 300kw+ battery so it can compete with F450 (and others) range at full load.

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[HaulingAss]

Trucks don't have four doors.
LOSE THE REAR DOORS AND SEATS, then you got plenty of room for a long bed.

I used to think that too. Then I noticed 85% of the newer trucks I see on the road have four doors and 6- 1/2 foot beds!

I swear to dawg that I'm ripping the rear seats out of mine and making a racking system to fit the space..

That's a great idea if you don't need the passenger capacity!

 

[Crissa]

That's why I hope the rear seats fold down.

-Crissa

 

[Cyberman]

Agreed. CT suspension dynamically adjusts ride compared to a conventional spring-only suspension on highway. Air-over-spring is more supple, especially the lower is vehicle ride height.

Supple. As in smooth? IDK. I would not choose to use the word “supple“ in the Colorado Forest Service road, driil road and logging trail to describe CT ride handling off highway. CT‘s air suspension I am won’t to confuse with Semi tractor Air-Ride suspension seen floating on highways. I’d love it were true, Dynamically supple and AI controlled body roll at 16” ride height for CT. But I’m steeling my expectation for it to be more firm, Static-stiff and mechanically reactive(read quicker rebound) at 16” ride height trailering – no miracles.

Supple. As in ability to articulate offroad? Not so much, either. The F-250 3 point straight axel is going to provide a greater degree of freedom with body-on-frame flex contributing twist enabling a FORD to keep wheel traction down to the ground differently, longer offroad than AWD.

CT AWD is going to 4x3-wheel often putting daylight under a fourth wheel. Loaded with trailer that transfers weight and traction to 3 wheels. That translates to pucker, my word. I’m sufficiently impressed with AWD and CT 16” ground clearance to submit that pucker is just another experience we all get used to using. AWD is going places 4x4 used to rule. CT is the point of that spear.

Cybertruck is so stiff(missing voabulary apology) that it will sky wheels off the ground, using AWD three-wheel traction control. Its bluesky in the windshield time when a front tire lifts. Or tippy-canoo feeling when a rear tire raises up off the ground. Where conventional frame F-250 flex enables four-wheel ground contact with 4x4 over the same ground is maintained for the most part and lifts a wheel much less than AWD.

Even with that, in the trailering case, CT AWD can and should haul trailer over USFS roads. AWD will fail differently than 4x4 fails at obstacles, fields of large diameter rock (~10”+) and severe off camber grade (i.e. /-sloped) which ICE articulates a little better and negotiates differently with a trailer attached.

Lodgepole cuts I’ve made in UT Uintas get back in off FS road where you have your pucker factor high getting out loaded with trailer. CO I’ve only 4x4 over abandoned rail bed and mapped trail. All steep solid rock under wheel, snow and crazy drop-out beauty. Desert sand, rock fields are problematic at grade for 4x4 and AWD, alike, with a trailer if not impassible. BUT it’d make for one hell of a Cybertruck tip’o the spear commercial. I’d love to set that up and shoot! I have the exact location in Springtime for that challenge.

I can almost grock what you're saying, but not quite.

 

[rr6013]

I can almost grock what you're saying, but not quite.

So Cal analogy:

F-250 8’ bed == Sector8 long board= supple
Cybertruck == normal skateboard= smooth
CT maxxed ht.== trick board = stiff

Does air bag suspension change the ride to make it supple? Wheelbase is hard to beat. Had ‘72 Crewcab longbed dually, that was supple! Air bags harden at full inflation which raises the CT ride height to 16”. Offroad pulling trailer, CT suspension is inflated raising hitch higher the gnarlier the road deteriorates. Inflated airbag=hard==firm.

Grok — Higher the suspension the firmer becomes an airbag. Firmer translates into an exo-skeleton as stiffness in ride quality. Exo-skeleton is already rigid. So the truck’s platform acquires a stiffness ride quality. /grok

Apologies for my confusion equating stiffness==rigidity! Thank you for comeback to figure out the missing vocabulary piece.

 

[Crissa]

I don't think I was getting it, either, but, nice!

-Crissa

 

[Doug McAllister]

rr6013, why are you ordering a CT if you can’t live without an 8ft bed. If your a contractor hauling sr or plywood constantly then you would be better off with ice. I was a sub contractor ( retired ) and hauled most everything on flat 18 ft trailer. It worked better for me for my situation.

 

[Red61224]

Having a full-length, eight foot bed on Cybertruck would be awesome.

I often use a 6.5’ bed (Silverado) and always wish I had 8’ instead.

Our garage is 24’ deep, so extra length would be okay ?

Exactly, I actually use my current truck (F-150) to haul stuff other than golf bags, you know like firewood, lumber, landscaping machinery & tools, and a 6.5-foot bed is going to be cramped so I would still have to rely on a trailer for a lot of long items.

 

[HaulingAss]

So Cal analogy:

F-250 8’ bed == Sector8 long board= supple
Cybertruck == normal skateboard= smooth
CT maxxed ht.== trick board = stiff

Does air bag suspension change the ride to make it supple? Wheelbase is hard to beat. Had ‘72 Crewcab longbed dually, that was supple! Air bags harden at full inflation which raises the CT ride height to 16”. Offroad pulling trailer, CT suspension is inflated raising hitch higher the gnarlier the road deteriorates. Inflated airbag=hard==firm.

Grok — Higher the suspension the firmer becomes an airbag. Firmer translates into an exo-skeleton as stiffness in ride quality. Exo-skeleton is already rigid. So the truck’s platform acquires a stiffness ride quality. /grok

Apologies for my confusion equating stiffness==rigidity! Thank you for comeback to figure out the missing vocabulary piece.

Apologies for not taking the time to explain this in detail but, from what you have written it appears you have a misunderstanding of how the Cybertruck suspension will get it's adjustability.

While info is scarce at this point in time, I expect the suspension will not have airbags. The suspension will raise/lower without changing the stiffness, the stiffness will be seperately adjustable. And it will probably have adjustable damping too. You will be able to tune it to ride however you want.

Unlike every other truck out there with this much capacity, it will have fully independent suspension on all four corners. You will never get a truly supple ride over uneven terrain with a solid axle.

 

[HaulingAss]

Exactly, I actually use my current truck (F-150) to haul stuff other than golf bags, you know like firewood, lumber, landscaping machinery & tools, and a 6.5-foot bed is going to be cramped so I would still have to rely on a trailer for a lot of long items.

I've been cutting all my own firewood for 40 years. It's heavy stuff until it's seasoned. When I fill up the 6 1/2 foot bed of my F-150 with green firewood rounds I'm well over double it's 1750 lb. weight rating. It's probably a good thing the bed isn't 8' or I would be tempted to triple the rated cargo capacity! I just drive slowly, especially over bumps, to avoid permanently tweaking the crappy twin I-beam frame. I've seen a number of trucks around the county here that are permanently tweaked (their cabs don't line up with their beds). My point is, I'm more likely to run into a weight capacity issue than a bed length issue.

I've also hauled a lot of longer items in both 6.5' beds as well as 8' beds. I've used red visibility flags on both - it's no big deal. Sure, an 8' bed is more capable, but only 18" more capable. I can generally get the job with either equally well and that's why 6.5' beds have become so popular, even with trucks used for work.

I've never had golf clubs in my truck, for that I would take the sedan.

 

[Crissa]

We always did a first split before putting firewood in the truck, it dries faster and packs tighter that way.

-Crissa

 

[HaulingAss]

We always did a first split before putting firewood in the truck, it dries faster and packs tighter that way.

-Crissa

I split it when I get home except for rounds that are too large to lift into the bed. But I don't think it changes the speed of drying depending upon if you split it when loading or when you get home.

When I cut wood in the spring it's pretty saturated and splits much easier after a month or two of drying. Some wood like this alder will split fine either way but the larger Douglas Fir rounds go much quicker once they get the beginning of a little checking.

Also, once I split it it "fluffs up" the volume about 20%. As you can imagine, a round is much more compact than once it's split because the split pieces will never fit back together as compactly as they were before you split it!

I'm going to appreciate being able to tilt the Cybertruck bed closer to the ground. On the 4x4 F-150 above, I've noticed how much easier it is to load as the suspension compresses as I load more wood in the back because the bed sits crazy high in the unloaded state. Just the few inches the F-150 compresses as I load it makes a big difference.

 

[rr6013]

rr6013, why are you ordering a CT if you can’t live without an 8ft bed. If your a contractor hauling sr or plywood constantly then you would be better off with ice. I was a sub contractor ( retired ) and hauled most everything on flat 18 ft trailer. It worked better for me for my situation.

Oh gosh, the 1 ton 8’ dually was immediately replaced by IH 1850 diesel 5th wheel after going thru brakes, tires and 454 engine valve guides.
Real work took a real truck to stand up to abuse.

Honestly. A simple design won me over in 10 minutes. Ordered next day, thrilled EV specs haul, pull, trailer and go 1M miles. Great design innovates around a platform engineered to work in the first place. Cybertruck is that platform by which EV’s will be measured.

 

[Crissa]

Surface area. The more surface area exposed - especially the inside, which isn't designed to resist evaporation - the faster it dries out.

Since most of our firewood would be fir or similar, the round sizes would be pretty regular. You can tesselate triangles tighter than rounds.

-Crissa

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