? [Update: NOT Production Wiper] New Cybertruck design spied! Shortened front, no door handles, side mirrors, curved windshield glass! [Dec. 10]

[Ogre]

--really want a 6.5' bed for up to 3 dirt bikes with tailgate down - as I've done on my 2500 trucks...but 6' without interference of overhang on fenders will suffice - at least get 2 bikes or dont interfere with one diagonal

I suspect we’re getting a bed which is technically 6.5 feet and can haul a few sheets of 4x8 plywood without overhanging the tailgate, but is effectively a 5.5’ - 6’ bed if you have taller stuff. You should be able to get the tire of a moto under the lip, but the fenders and bars will be way above the roofline… hopefully the fenders won’t bang into that lip.

I mountain bike and have similar issues. I was able to get 3-4 bikes standing up moto-style in the bed in my Tundra (6.5” bed), I hope we’ll be able to get 3 standing in this. The lip at the top shouldn’t be a big problem, but losing the ~6” to that sloped area in the front will.

--like the side skirts with steps - easier to do lift over and clean roof, etc

I hadn’t thought too much about these, but with the tall sides might be very important to access the bed.

In summary - please take my money asap, I have faith in Tesla/elon and absolutely cant wait! It will take longer, but Elon is not going to lose and will release a world beater (for most people).

Likewise… and I agree with most of the rest of what you said that I edited out too.

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[Tinker71]

As a man of culture, curves has always had big appeal to me. But in this singular instance I would have to say... GET RID OF THAT RIDICULOUS CURVED WINDSHIELD. NOW! Give me some sharp angles please, that is what made the truck look cool in the first place.

Tesla is starting down the path of the OEMs. Watering down their cool ass prototype/concept until it looks nothing like what was promised.

Throw the curves at the curb, give us angles that uh.. dangle.
Someone take away Franz' smooth edges tool NAO.

I thought there were issues with wind vortex with the big flat window. I don't think the change was for any other reason.

 

[Dixon1430]

Shortened overall length not just front. No way the bed is over 6ft now, but thats actually ok. I want to park in the damn garage, and all of the competitors best selling configurations are far and away crew cab with 5.5' bed. Love the wheels, glad there are mirrors, not a huge fan of the massive long bow wiper. You can see the "trunk" under the bed lid, the likely composite bed liner like most of the competition etc. All in all this is the most information we've gotten since launch! Thanks to whomever took the drone pics.

Although you are correct about the bed length of other more traditional trucks, the whole sales pitch at the reveal was that more would be offered within the same foot print. I was really hopeful that the 6.5 foot bed would make it through to production. Doesn’t look like it. ??‍

 

[Dixon1430]

I thought there were issues with wind vortex with the big flat window. I don't think the change was for any other reason.

There has to be more to it. Elon has said that the angular aspects of the truck are actually not great for aerodynamics and nothing else has changed. He has also said that it’s really hard to make a windshield with that angle so I’m wondering if it doesn’t have to do with strength? Who knows. I’m undecided about how I feel about the windshield. I hope they figure out the wiper and I hope the bed is still 6.5 ft.

 

[Tinker71]

There is a lot of space under that lip.

You can see here, they can almost fit a body bag in the area underneath the lip. It’s a pretty big section. The bag is likely 2 feet wide and about a third of it is obscured underneath.

My thinking is each of the 2 front sections of the bed are 2 foot and the back section with the under vault storage is 30 inches. If you look at the floor section above the tires it looks to be about 2 foot and the rear one is longer.

In this blurrier photo you can see exactly how big that bag is, there is a heck of a lot tucked under that lip section.

One final shot, this one with the body bag nearly obscurred.

The entire wheel well… likely 36” by itself, and everything behind it is behind the body bog here.

I think it’s likely 60-66 inches of lip free vault, then another 12 - 18 inches underneath that lip area. We already know the very front 6-12 inches of the vault is cheater space where the front wall slopes backwards into the vault area.

If you have cargo that will tuck under that lip, it works, maybe a motorcycle tire will tuck in there?

One other weird thing is on a older style truck, the cab is much higher relative to the vault. Much more of your bike will be sticking up in the wind than with an F-150.

I don't think the bed was ever 78 inches except right at the bottom since the bed wall sloped with the seat. I can handle 74" but I will be disappointed with any thing less.

 

[Tinker71]

I never thought CT could have a laser wiper. How can they keep the costs low if they add never seen before breakthrough technologies? Laser wiper could be for Roadster (if it will ever be a thing).
I still wonder why Elon insists with this "no handles" idea. They were not bad at all in the prototype and lending a car to a friend will be impossible.

Less to get picked on for panel gap issues.

 

[Ogre]

Although you are correct about the bed length of other more traditional trucks, the whole sales pitch at the reveal was that more would be offered within the same foot print. I was really hopeful that the 6.5 foot bed would make it through to production. Doesn’t look like it. ??‍

I hate to say this, but Tesla cheated quite a bit on bed length at launch and I suspect a lot of that is only just being noticed now and being attributed to this change.

This image is from some patent illustrations made a while back. The red line is from the edge of the lip to the truck bed. The green line is the 6’6” truck bed. Not quite clear how much we’re losing here and patent drawings don’t need to be to scale, but we’re definitely losing at least 6” to slope plus lip.

This has been in the design for some time. It looks almost like they’ve made the lip area even larger in this new design, likely so the cover can roll easier.

 

[Tinker71]

I can see the bed ridges reflected on something on the right hand side.... I think there is a glass there

I think the rear window will roll down 10" or so and it will have a load bearing sill to rest long items on. This will be the same elevation as the tailgate.

 

[JBee]

Here you go.. if you are suggesting 35" tire diameter... Bed length is 5.5 feet from inside of tailgate to edge of the "overhang" as shown. Or 6 feet from inside of tailgate to bed wall if approx in line with the roof window to black plastic trim edge. These are approximates as I did not reverse distortion of the angle/lens.

Truck is 222" long.

If anyone has accurate tire size I can adjust the measurements.

If this is the case and it is really close to this size and the overhang cuts into the wheel chock placement/interferes with the front mudguard.. then its gone from useful to not useful for my biggest usage desire as my vespas are 69.3" length max. And these are smaller length two wheeled toys. This means its completely not useful for anyone trying to load a harley or bigger motorcycle into back with tailgate up.

That rear 35" wheel measurement looks to line up with the new rear under tray storage lid line.

I think we're getting a spare wheel now! :-D

 

[Throwcomputer]

That rear 35" wheel measurement looks to line up with the new rear under tray storage lid line.

I think we're getting a spare wheel now! :-D

Or a donut stowed in an under bed compartment same as the ridgeline.

 

[JBee]

I'm suspecting that the rear motors are the carbon wrapped kind used in the plaid, which are also smaller and lighter than the M3 etc, because of this they can move the rear motors in front of the rear wheel drivshafts, and still fit the vault cover in front. Better for weight distribution too.

That means the larger rear storage cover space can now be big enough to fit a full-size spare on top of the rear gearbox and drivetrain assembly. The spare itself might be optional if you just want to use the space instead, but at least we have somewhere to put a spare.

I'm also wondering if in the end all versions are quad motors just with different pack sizes, or if the dual motor might just be rear wheel drive with two in the back. At some point, if you can optimise your cost by making your own motors and controllers like Tesla does, it just doesn't make sense to have all these different versions.

 

[JBee]

Tell me about it, 27 pages of rinse repeat...but I'm here now. :-/

Nothing much better to do being in Hotel quarantine for 2 weeks. Can't wait to get out.

 

[CyberGus]

The new windshield was revealed by Tesla 2 months ago:

The beveled corner was believed to be for a windshield wiper.

 

[Klaxon]

Blue tape is just holding the fender flare on, once in production they should be able to do a better job....

Really? I was sure it is to reinforce the exoskeleton.
Lots of our equipment is held together with such tape.

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