2024 Silverado EV WT Range Officially EPA Certified

[Cybertruck 1974]

Didn't know it was even available to review 6 months ago but Kyle Conner did it and does all of them best. The Silverado is not a joke. Cybertruck looks cool but range, charging is nothing compared to the Silverado. I do have a CT FS AWD on order since Dec 22nd but now....1k loss to get the towing range and just flat out range that Tesla promised is looking very tempting. Maybe I'll get both. One to have lookyloos, the other to do real world shit.

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[Cybertruck 1974]

80K for a base work truck that has a 450 mi range. Pass. Or you can pay a hundred grand for a RST. You're better off buying an all-wheel drive Cyber truck and just getting the extended battery. If Range is the only thing you care about.

man did you see the reviews? CT is for the lookers for sure but performance even with the backpack bed killer extra range battery still doesn't compare to the Silverado. Im so disappointed in Tesla. Chevy stole this one in all categories except looks. If people don't see that, they are in la la land.

 

[GuyV]

I think the defining feature of the stainless steel is that it can actually be used for truck things instead of being a pavement princess.

Unless you wrap it in metallic purple.

 

[GuyV]

man did you see the reviews? CT is for the lookers for sure but performance even with the backpack bed killer extra range battery still doesn't compare to the Silverado. Im so disappointed in Tesla. Chevy stole this one in all categories except looks. If people don't see that, they are in la la land.

LOL, if it's successful enough they'll kill it like the Bolt and EV1.

 

[GuyV]

Sadly this is also my number one desire for the cyber truck. I am insanely paranoid of door dings.

Kinda me too, not that I don't expect idiots to figure out how to make dings and scratches, but the stainless steel gives me an excuse not to care, like with my kitchen sink. ?

 

[CyberTW]

man did you see the reviews? CT is for the lookers for sure but performance even with the backpack bed killer extra range battery still doesn't compare to the Silverado. Im so disappointed in Tesla. Chevy stole this one in all categories except looks. If people don't see that, they are in la la land.

I remember that video! Very compelling. The problem will be production. Any company can make a really compelling truck.. but to produce one and scale it to actually get close to break even is the biggest issue. Even at $100k, with that truck, I have to believe it costs them 140k + to make it.. eventually it’s not sustainable and you get left with a truck that is basically cancelled after a few years.. look what’s happening to the lightning! A Decent EV and they keeping on scaling back production and are certainly not close to turning a profit.. throw in the sub-par electronics/UI (because GM and Ford can’t touch Tesla UI / software currently).. that’s the biggest issue I see.. and I could never go back through dealers for buying and all repairs (even software)
But yes the few trucks they have made looked good! I am just skeptical that it’s smoke and mirrors..

 

[cvalue13]

Exactly.. it will probably cost what $120k after dealer markup for a 400 mile (not really) truck?

I can’t imagine anyone who sells trucks taking a $100K truck and marking it up to $120K just because there’s high demand and limited production!!! Talk about despicable!!!

But if the OEM itself is doing it, that’s just business!

 

[jookyone]

I don't know many responsible company owners that are going to buy a $80,000 base work truck. When you can buy a gas equivalent for $40,000 less. That makes absolutely no sense. And the Chevy even with a 450 mi range is only going to get a third of that when it's towing. Same with any other EV.

Very true, the whole reason for the "entry level work truck" is that it is expendable... traditionally. Time will tell whether the "boot theory" applies to work trucks: EV vs gas.

 

[Woodrick]

LOL, if it's successful enough they'll kill it like the Bolt and EV1.

So far they are showing an annual production rate of about 1,000 vehicles, maybe they can double the number next year!

 

[rudedawg78]

BARD was hallucinating apparently.

CoPilot results seem much more likely. ... and I asked for the 'more precision' option and a breakdown by word in a table format that I described.

Bahaha!

And now prepare for that song to be stuck in your head ALLLL day! lol

 

[HitchHiker71]

I don't know many responsible company owners that are going to buy a $80,000 base work truck. When you can buy a gas equivalent for $40,000 less. That makes absolutely no sense. And the Chevy even with a 450 mi range is only going to get a third of that when it's towing. Same with any other EV.

Silverado 4WT EV towing a 6500 lb trailer against an ICE F150 towing the exact same trailer:

https://electrek.co/2023/09/25/chevy-silverado-ev-impresses-towing-vs-gas-ford-f-150-video/

Going from 100% to 2% towing 232 miles with 15 miles left (2%) using 1.1kw/mile. That's a 6500lb box trailer and delivering 50% of estimated range (475 miles according to the GOM) - that's pretty darn good. A far cry better than the 87-100 miles we've seen from CTs for example. Granted it's a huge pack - but this is much better than anything else on the market at present.

It's a shame the WT variants don't have the adjustable midgate - which IMHO is one of the best features of the Silverado/Sierra EVs. I believe the RST will have it - and hopefully some of the lower priced consumer models will also still have the midgate. $105k is pretty steep - too rich for me at least. Even $80k is pushing it.

 

[Darth abbott]

Silverado 4WT EV towing a 6500 lb trailer against an ICE F150 towing the exact same trailer:

https://electrek.co/2023/09/25/chevy-silverado-ev-impresses-towing-vs-gas-ford-f-150-video/

Going from 100% to 2% towing 232 miles with 15 miles left (2%) using 1.1kw/mile. That's a 6500lb box trailer and delivering 50% of estimated range (475 miles according to the GOM) - that's pretty darn good. A far cry better than the 87-100 miles we've seen from CTs for example. Granted it's a huge pack - but this is much better than anything else on the market at present.

I agree that's much better, the problem is electric vehicles are not designed to tow. At least not for long distances The pack size required to get the Silverado to go that far is insane The amount of weight it's toting around on a daily basis for no reason. Which is exactly why Tesla decided not to give us a larger pack to give us the 500 mile range. And tell battery density becomes capable of giving 500 mile range while staying at a reasonable weight they're not going to do it. Realistically if you plan on towing something heavy for long distances You're way better off with a gas or diesel. That's just the way it is. Supercharging networks not set up for towing there is no existing network for other EVs for the most part until they start using Tesla. It's just not practical. They're great for towing short distances though. If range is what really matters the most to people and they're better off getting a gas vehicle plain and simple.

 

[Coolbreeze704]

Well it's personal choice which vehicle you buy. Good luck to you with your $80,00

I don't think anybody in this forum or anybody for that matter is forcing you to buy a cyber truck. I mean that sounds pretty much like you have your mind made up and you should probably just join a Chevy Silverado EV forum.

Personally, taking away all that we know about the CT and it's software, FSD beta, 48volt, SS, etc etc, If I thought this would hold up for the 20 plus years I believe my CT would, I would buy this just on looks.

Not stunning like CT but low key truck beauty. I know I am showing my butt here but I feel like I am in a safe place. I hope.

 

[GuyV]

I agree that's much better, the problem is electric vehicles are not designed to tow. At least not for long distances The pack size required to get the Silverado to go that far is insane The amount of weight it's toting around on a daily basis for no reason. Which is exactly why Tesla decided not to give us a larger pack to give us the 500 mile range. And tell battery density becomes capable of giving 500 mile range while staying at a reasonable weight they're not going to do it. Realistically if you plan on towing something heavy for long distances You're way better off with a gas or diesel. That's just the way it is. Supercharging networks not set up for towing there is no existing network for other EVs for the most part until they start using Tesla. It's just not practical. They're great for towing short distances though. If range is what really matters the most to people and they're better off getting a gas vehicle plain and simple.

We have to qualify that. Current EV pickups are unlikely to be practical for towing long distances in a stretch any time soon, but range can still matter. This is similar to the case for local delivery vehicles. Greater range makes a day's worth of local travel practical, and depending on use case that may be extendable for lunch break or site-specific charging. For contractors it would be normal enough to get your equipment to where it needs to be, maybe even charge there, and get back to base.

 

[HitchHiker71]

We have to qualify that. Current EV pickups are unlikely to be practical for towing long distances in a stretch any time soon, but range can still matter. This is similar to the case for local delivery vehicles. Greater range makes a day's worth of local travel practical, and depending on use case that may be extendable for lunch break or site-specific charging. For contractors it would be normal enough to get your equipment to where it needs to be, maybe even charge there, and get back to base.

Agreed - I actually don't think range would matter as much as it does if charging times were significantly faster than what we see in the real world today. If we saw charging times of 5-10 minutes with 80-90% SoC - I think people wouldn't be as focused on range. IMHO it's mostly the 30-45 minute DC public charging times that scare people away from considering EVs in general. It's the lack of range combined with the long charging times that turn off most traditional automotive buyers at least from what I've observed in many conversations when this topic comes up. If you could find a pull through DC public charger and recharge in 5-10 minutes up to 80-90% I think more people would be amenable to having to stop every 100-150 miles to charge when towing - but it's the 30-60 minute charging times with the larger packs that add up a lot when towing any distance - or when using up the pack with local deliveries as you point out.

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