Another setback for the Cybertruck

[jahansolu]

Had my CT since December. Nothing but good with it. The person starting this thread is definitely a troll. Admin should pick up on these quicker. It just allows others to pile on. The good thing is that there are lots of others who talk about the awesomness of this ride. Stay safe all. Try to ignore the trolls.

Hello @Merc_s55 , "troll" here,

The thread was started because of genuine frustration with the current condition of the Cybertruck, and perhaps the lack of a clear roadmap which Cybertruck owners can follow or get excited about.

If you were to look at other threads which I have started or posted in, I do love the Cybertruck a lot. In fact, at one point I did try to collaborate with a manufacturing company in China to create a Snow Melting solution for those owners experiencing snow build up in front of their headlights. Unfortunately, there wouldn't be enough units sold to make the unit economically viable. Which was why I posted my findings and materials I used if anyone wanted to recreate for their own use - free of charge.

The way I see Cybertruck Owners Club is an opportunity to speak to other users not only about the good or excellent aspects of the truck but also it's short-comings; this allows for others to share either their experiences or quick fixes.

Just in case it wasn't clear: I love my Cybertruck and would never trade or sell it for anything else - it's a piece of history, like the DeLorean.

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[jahansolu]

I thought I might just not notice it so specifically checked for it on my last long trip (200 miles round trip freeway, two lane, and city driving) and mine doesn't do this at all.

You're one of the lucky few.

Note: I live in Canada where having two lanes here is considered a Highway - a joke, especially when compared to the multi-lane situation in the States - so please keep this in mind.

I'm starting to notice a few reasons for the lane drifts, and please correct me if I'm wrong or if it's all in my head. This is all when FSD is active:
1) It's pre-calculating an overtake
When I'm behind a slow moving vehicle, I've noticed the truck sometimes gets uncomfortable close to their rear, but then also starts to either drift heavily to either left or right in anticipation for an overtake. As one user mentioned, luckily it limits itself when there's a vehicle beside it. However, it definitly starts to drift into another lane (before signaling).
2) When a Semi-Truck is in the right lane
FSD already anticipates and leaves enough room for Semi-Trucks or larger vehicles, this is a known fact. What's unique to the Cybertruck is that it's already trying to shift even when it's nowhere close or beside the Semi-Truck. Again in anticipation of when it will be taking over.
3) Around (highway) bends
It will either hug the left or right side of the road especially around bends. Luckily, it mostly hugs the left which may seem ok, but if there's a vehicle behind me its almost guaranteed that my truck is launching any debris or rocks at them.

Canadian roads are narrow, especially compared to highways in the States. Therefore, our tolerance by other road users is much less when there is little room for any margin of error.

 

[GuyV]

I agree it seems like the Cybertruck has been ignored too long. I’m told from the sales people at Tesla that Robotaxi is the emphasis and others will come along later. I also have issues with my CT hugging the white line on certain roads (hitting the rumble strips) forcing me to take over. Also, its lane choices are horrible. Keeps going to a merge lane when the regular lane is fine. Like it doesn’t understand the proper route. My CT works fine with FSD while cruising down the interstate or highway but in town, it’s a different matter. It won’t even stop at my address. FSD always takes me 4 houses down from where I live then stops. . I’ve verifies the address but to no avail. If I come in the other way (to my house), it turns on the blinker to the right when my house is on the left but does stop at the house. So strange.

I have the same problem of left lane hugging, but not always. Each trip is different, but with either good or bad behavior consistent throughout.

I also agree that its lane choices are often maddening. I've taken to using chill mode so that at least when I prompt it to get into the correct lane it pretty much stays there, but chill is kind of maddening in its own way. Maybe separate settings for lane behavior would help.

I thought it was bad that mine always stops two houses down. Four, oh good grief!

 

[jahansolu]

Oh! Another issue I've also witnessed is truck has a tendency to indicate its signals 1 block prior to the actual turn it wants to take, anyone else? The navigational data is correct, which is why I think its a FSD issue.

 

[Merc_s55]

Hello @Merc_s55 , "troll" here,

The thread was started because of genuine frustration with the current condition of the Cybertruck, and perhaps the lack of a clear roadmap which Cybertruck owners can follow or get excited about.

If you were to look at other threads which I have started or posted in, I do love the Cybertruck a lot. In fact, at one point I did try to collaborate with a manufacturing company in China to create a Snow Melting solution for those owners experiencing snow build up in front of their headlights. Unfortunately, there wouldn't be enough units sold to make the unit economically viable. Which was why I posted my findings and materials I used if anyone wanted to recreate for their own use - free of charge.

The way I see Cybertruck Owners Club is an opportunity to speak to other users not only about the good or excellent aspects of the truck but also it's short-comings; this allows for others to share either their experiences or quick fixes.

Just in case it wasn't clear: I love my Cybertruck and would never trade or sell it for anything else - it's a piece of history, like the DeLorean.

Ok. I may have missed on this one. I might be getting a little punchy. I apologize.
Take care

 

[jahansolu]

Ok. I may have missed on this one. I might be getting a little punchy. I apologize.
Take care

All good my dude.

 

[TyPope]

Just going to drop these two nuggets here:

1. I was following a little Toyota car driven by what I thought was a drunk (but it was about 5am) or sleepy person. They kept weaving back and forth but almost completely within their lane... They were using what must have been Toyota's Ping Pong Self Driving.

2. Shopping for a car for my daughter. Her first. Go to test drive it. Super anemic to me but probably just fine. It's a Prius Prime. Start that first turn out of the parking lot and almost biffed it. I mean, you have to turn that steering wheel SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much.

So now, I realize I'm spoiled in another way. Love our 4WS and tight ratio steering!

 

[PungoteagueDave]

Hello @Merc_s55 , "troll" here,

The thread was started because of genuine frustration with the current condition of the Cybertruck, and perhaps the lack of a clear roadmap which Cybertruck owners can follow or get excited about.

If you were to look at other threads which I have started or posted in, I do love the Cybertruck a lot. In fact, at one point I did try to collaborate with a manufacturing company in China to create a Snow Melting solution for those owners experiencing snow build up in front of their headlights. Unfortunately, there wouldn't be enough units sold to make the unit economically viable. Which was why I posted my findings and materials I used if anyone wanted to recreate for their own use - free of charge.

The way I see Cybertruck Owners Club is an opportunity to speak to other users not only about the good or excellent aspects of the truck but also it's short-comings; this allows for others to share either their experiences or quick fixes.

Just in case it wasn't clear: I love my Cybertruck and would never trade or sell it for anything else - it's a piece of history, like the DeLorean.

Yeah, sorry the the self-appointed fanboi police jumped on you. There's a lot of that around here - just enjoy your truck, ignore them, and carry on.

 

[S.C.M.O.D.S.]

has anyone noticed that the dry wipe on the windshield has gotten worse in this latest software update? Mine seems to dry wipe every time I’m in FSD now.

What seems to work for me is to turn on FSD, then I immediately use voice command "turn wiper off". This makes it so you don't have to hit the wiper button (thus causing an initial unwanted wipe) just to touch the off option on the screen or scroll down to it to turn the wiper off. It also seems to stay off for the remainder of my drive. My windshield can get quite occluded with water from rain or road spray and it won't come on unless I tell it to or I push the wiper button. When I do this it still just wipes the windshield the one time and stays off. So at least for me, I just have to remember to voice "wiper off" when turning on FSD and I'm good.

 

[cyber61]

What seems to work for me is to turn on FSD, then I immediately use voice command "turn wiper off". This makes it so you don't have to hit the wiper button (thus causing an initial unwanted wipe) just to touch the off option on the screen or scroll down to it to turn the wiper off. It also seems to stay off for the remainder of my drive. My windshield can get quite occluded with water from rain or road spray and it won't come on unless I tell it to or I push the wiper button. When I do this it still just wipes the windshield the one time and stays off. So at least for me, I just have to remember to voice "wiper off" when turning on FSD and I'm good.

Thank you. I’ll definitely give this a try. The new update last night seems to be even worse for dry wipes.

 

[DJAlan2000]

I just got back from a 1,000 mile road trip. FSD did over 99% of it. It went into the wrong lane once after exiting the freeway onto a two-way service road and slightly swiped a curb with its rear wheel once on a left turn. I reported both incidents.

On the way back, it exited on the two-way service road and got into the proper lane. Maybe it’s a coincidence, maybe they fix reported errors really quickly, but one thing we know for sure is that CT has its own FSD stack. It takes all of us to make it great, just like it took A LOT of sexy car drivers to make all of them great.

Don’t give up on CT. Don’t fail it, and don’t fail the rest of your brethren who drive one. It’ll get there if we all pitch in.

Just makes sense that ALL vehicles would have their 'own' stacks... After all, each vehicle is a different size, for one, and has different capabilities as well...

I think the CT one is just not 'properly' setup fully yet... That's why it's riding the left line sometimes (hardly at all now with last update)

 

[roadrunner32]

It's becoming pretty evident that Tesla really doesn't care nor places priority anymore on the Cybertruck. Had the sales matched the pre-orders, I feel like we would all be in a different boat; enjoying all the benefits that other models get.

1) FSD is fundamentally a joke - either gets uncomfortably close to other vehicles, curbing, keeps hugging either the left/right part of the lane (instead of being dead center), and/or runs the wipers dry on a sunny day. In some safety critical situations, it just turns into the wrong side of the road / divider.
2) No Actual Smart Summon - not even providing users with a dumb summon in the meantime until they can figure out how to implement ASS - I have a feeling this will never come and will be cancelled like Autopilot.
3) Cancelled Autopilot - Tesla completely gave up on their Autopilot venture for non-FSD users, which is huge given every Tesla to date used to have the basic Autopilot feature.
4) and now this: S and X will be getting an overhaul when it comes to the next revision of FSD. Thanks to their vehicles having a dedicated GPU, it will be using Unreal Engine moving forward to push the next generation of FSD Visualizations - similar to 10.10 software seen in the CyberCab. For the longest time, especially given the price of the Foundation Series, I thought the Cybertruck will at least share the same processor as the S and the X - not the 3 and Y. However, Grok just confirmed the Cybertruck only has 2 TFlops vs the dedicated GPU S and X have at 10 TFlops therefore it won't be able to ever run Unreal Engine.

If only the Cybertruck had sold well... none of us would be in this situation.

The only thing I dont like about the cybertruck is that mine is the only one I see.
Not having any problem with FSD I use it all the time. This morning the power went out right in the middle of our bible study. So I went home, turned off the incoming breaker and plugged in power from cybertruck. (I do have an interlock). It ran for a half hour until I observed power was restored. only lost 2 miles charge. It was just a test. my buddy up in Gary Indiana was shocked that it could drive it self autonomously. we need to spread these features around. See my thread on "Let's emphasize how strong and tough this stainless steel body is".

 

[bluerice]

Just makes sense that ALL vehicles would have their 'own' stacks... After all, each vehicle is a different size, for one, and has different capabilities as well...

I think the CT one is just not 'properly' setup fully yet... That's why it's riding the left line sometimes (hardly at all now with last update)

The Tesla graveyard needs another tombstone— PowerShare (with Tesla solar and PW). This was a huge selling feature for me and what’s keeping me from selling it. However as usual Tesla keeps pushing to a later and ambiguous date…time frame.

I laughed when I saw the interview with Tesla where he mentioned a cyber suv. Please. Good luck with convincing anyone to buy that after the cybertruck —their dream, my nightmare.

FSD needs competition. Cruise control with lane change doesn’t cut it. Need nvidia to save the day. Once other cars have comparable FSD I can be done with Tesla. PLEASE SAVE US JENSEN.

 

[Beetlebug62]

So, I was wondering have others noticed that the truck keeps in its lane better?

I have a country road, 45-50mph, where on a couple curves, the truck will touch the yellow centerline and even cross over as much as a foot. Almost as if the momentum takes it across. Anyway, it hasn't done that in a long, long time.

And then I have another country highway, 55mph, where it likes to hug the centerline. I put on the sidecam and watch, it's about 6" away. Now, it's about 18" away.

I've only driven once on the interstate highway in the last month, on my way to The Who concert in Boston, and I mostly avoided going into the left lane, so I can't really say if it hugged the left line or not; but it drove the right two lanes quite well, but I never really had issues with the right two lanes, only the furthest left one.

So, my question is, have others noticed any change in the truck's behavior? That it seems to have improved, even though the only software updates have been "minor"?

Here's 3 images of the corner I take that sometimes leads to my truck crossing over the yellow line by a foot.

Before the turn, you can see the curve, going 51mph, and my truck seems centered:

Mid-turn, still going 51mph, and I may be a tiny bit closer to the centerline.

And corner exit, where in the past, I'd drift over the yellow by as much as a foot. No issues for a long, long time.

And, here's from back in early June. Looking out the left cam, I've crossed the yellow line. Look at the front and rear cams, I am way over. This is the exact same spot as the above images, on turn exit.

 

[DJAlan2000]

The Tesla graveyard needs another tombstone— PowerShare (with Tesla solar and PW). This was a huge selling feature for me and what’s keeping me from selling it. However as usual Tesla keeps pushing to a later and ambiguous date…time frame.

I laughed when I saw the interview with Tesla where he mentioned a cyber suv. Please. Good luck with convincing anyone to buy that after the cybertruck —their dream, my nightmare.

FSD needs competition. Cruise control with lane change doesn’t cut it. Need nvidia to save the day. Once other cars have comparable FSD I can be done with Tesla. PLEASE SAVE US JENSEN.

So you only keep your Tesla because of FSD?? And you think someone else is going to come up with something better soon?? I don't... The other car companies don't want to spend the MONEY it would cost to fully develop it from scratch... They know it would be BILLIONS and the payoff not so much... BUT, I think that sometime in the next year we will see Tesla 'licensing' the software out to at least one other car company, perhaps more... Then, MAYBE some time down the road, in about 5 years, someone will get their own FSD type software and hardware...

You know, kind of like how everyone said "We can't REUSE rockets" but after several YEARS of SpaceX doing so now others are developing their own 'reusables' as well...

So funny how so many companies are COPYING Tesla's things... Satellite Internet/Phones, Full Self Driving, Electric cars with MEGA speed/power (not like the weak volt/bolts), the best EV Charging network IN THE WORLD, 4 wheel steering, steer by wire, adjustable suspension, 360 degree views from cameras, built in AI (Grok in Tesla's now!) and so much more!

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