AWD Model vs Cyberbeast

[ChristoN]

That’s cool. I’m just looking to cruise. The AWD is perfection. I don’t have a need for the beast and I would probably still be waiting for it today if I didn’t switch to AWD. I prefer to have the CT in any iteration right now than to be waiting for it.

I understand the logic, but I’d rather continue to wait and let them fix things and get the beast. I also don’t want any HUMMER EV/Rivian owner to have anything snarky to say ?. They are making constant changes on the assembly lines just as they’ve done with every other Tesla model. They also never announce hardware changes. Definitely worth the wait to have a truck that gets to a 100 faster than 99% of cars and to 60 faster than pretty much everything.

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[Dazureus]

I just took delivery of my Beast. Previously drove a '16 Model X P90D with 0-60 in the 3.8s range. My wife has a '21 Model Y performance at 3.5s. You get accustomed to the acceleration, but the Beast made both our stomachs drop from the acceleration. It's new all over again. It's irresponsibly quick. I got the tires to chirp on a rolling start accelerator punch; something I couldn't do in the Model X. Being higher up detaches you visually a little from speed, so you have to be careful about speeding. Brakes are not as responsive, but it's because it's a much heavier vehicle. Just need to adjust following distances and be perceptive of traffic. A pillars are pushed more forward vs the Model X, so obstruction around sweeping curves is a bit better. I'm used to driving without seeing the hood so the lack of Cybertruck front end visual cues doesn't bother me. Back when I got the Model X, I didn't pay the 20k more for the Ludicrous mode. It was only 0.2 seconds faster and I was younger with less disposable income. I'm not sorry I got the Beast now.

 

[Cybertruck2024]

I have a Lightning and a M3P. I drive my Lightning 80% of the time because I need a truck for various reasons, but 20% of the time I just need to get into the M3P and have fun. It looks like the AWD and Lightning are about the same at accelerating (I'd love to see this drag race video), and if so, an AWD CT is kinda boring.

Once my Beast is done being pre-delivery repaired (which has sucked), I expect my M3P will become fully redundant to me and it will become the family's car.

Put it this way, I would've passed on the FS if the only trim was AWD. My Lightning was as good or better in a lot of ways, for $100k I had no interest. But for the Beast I'm happy to give Tesla my money.

 

[GuyV]

Oh wow, it looks like the Beast will have to stay on road if it wants to beat the AWD at 0-60. ?

 

[Cybertruck2024]

Any time I see vehicles compared with different tires, when the conditions need a certain tire, I immediately discredit the video as amateur and embarrassing.

 

[GuyV]

Any time I see vehicles compared with different tires, when the conditions need a certain tire, I immediately discredit the video as amateur and embarrassing.

LOL, obviously amateurs, and the time variances by run are large, but the 2 trucks did have the same tires.

 

[Cybertruck2024]

LOL, obviously amateurs, and the time variances by run are large, but the 2 trucks did have the same tires.

Around 3:45 when the race ends they imply they are using different tires. At no point during the video do I get a good enough view to confirm by watching. Again, amateur stuff.

Look at the recreation of the Porsche towing stunt that just posted, where they break down the whole setup. It's night and day. This off road racing video doesn't show anything at all, it's essentially visually incoherent.

 

[kpg81]

Racing in the dirt is completely pointless, both trucks do not have proper traction, and since the Beast has more power, traction control will kick in and reduce power so there's zero point of even running the race. What next, drag race on a frozen lake bed?

 

[Guylouis]

Hell no. Beast is the only way

 

[GuyV]

Around 3:45 when the race ends they imply they are using different tires. At no point during the video do I get a good enough view to confirm by watching. Again, amateur stuff.

Look at the recreation of the Porsche towing stunt that just posted, where they break down the whole setup. It's night and day. This off road racing video doesn't show anything at all, it's essentially visually incoherent.

It's at 4:35, try slowing it or CC if you can't catch it. ?

 

[GuyV]

Racing in the dirt is completely pointless, both trucks do not have proper traction, and since the Beast has more power, traction control will kick in and reduce power so there's zero point of even running the race. What next, drag race on a frozen lake bed?

Well of course it's pointless if you can't win. ?

I'm up for watching the frozen lake bed thing too.

But don't worry, Tesla can fix this. If they can't tune the CB for dirt to beat it, they can detune the AWD.

I am guessing that naturally the AWD has better front/rear power balance and Tesla hasn't given much attention to optimizing their offroad acceleration performance.

 

[kpg81]

Well of course it's pointless if you can't win. ?

I'm up for watching the frozen lake bed thing too.

But don't worry, Tesla can fix this. If they can't tune the CB for dirt to beat it, they can detune the AWD.

I am guessing that naturally the AWD has better front/rear power balance and Tesla hasn't given much attention to optimizing their offroad acceleration performance.

Not sure what your point is, but more HP means more traction loss in the dirt.

Line them up on the street and the Beast completely annialates the AWD like it's standing still. It's not even close. That's where races happen, not on a dirt field somewhere. The AWD does 0-60 in 3-5 business days versus the Cyberbeast.

 

[GuyV]

Not sure what your point is, but more HP means more traction loss in the dirt.

Line them up on the street and the Beast completely annialates the AWD like it's standing still. It's not even close. That's where races happen, not on a dirt field somewhere. The AWD does 0-60 in 3-5 business days versus the Cyberbeast.

That's just what I said. If the Beast wants to win it needs to stay on road. ?

 

[gooshjkc]

Like you I have CB on order and will most likely get it this time next year. It really depends on your preference. Do you want power even if you’re not going to use it all of the time? Yeah the novelty of gunning it runs out fairly quickly, but it’s nice to know you can probably beat almost anyone off the line (well, for the first quarter mile). Many has mentioned off-roading. Let’s be honest here, how many are really going to take $100K+ Cybertruck or CyberBeast off-road? Maybe less than 10%. This is just like Land Rover, tons of people buy them but will never take them off-road even though it’s probably the most capable vehicles to do so. As for truck things, like towing, maybe between 10 to 20%. Even ICE truck owners don’t tow that much. Putting things in the bed, they are both the same so that point is moot. In the end, again it’s the power. Do you want it or not?

 

[txtravwill]

Nice, a fellow Porsche owner..! I have a 992 GT3 myself. That's awesome man. I totally get it, thats why there are two versions, a fast version and a slower version. Depends how much you care about performance and speed, if you don't need fast why spend the extra money.

My grandmother would usually buy the slower models of whatever she got as well because "it still got me to point A and B in the same speed" lol.. she did have a point.

Agree. Both Beast & AWD are fast, both go reasonable/allowed speeds or over speed limits very easily. The Beast is definitely quicker, from 0-60+ and has more upper torque, but I can't do that too often or even want to as prefer to be a little more comfortable these days versus abrupt. Having had so many EVs now also, that novelty has worn off as well.

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