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A 2022 Rivian R1T is used for a crash test research by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and Development Center and the University of Nebraska-Lincoln's Midwest Roadside Safety Facility on Oct. 12, 2023 in Lincoln, Neb. Preliminary tests point to concerns that the nation’s roadside guardrails are no match for new heavy electric vehicle





LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — Electric vehicles that typically weigh more than gasoline-powered cars can easily crash through steel highway guardrails that are not designed to withstand the extra force, raising concerns about the nation’s roadside safety system, according to crash test data released Wednesday by the University of Nebraska.

Electric vehicles typically weigh 20% to 50% more than gas-powered vehicles thanks to batteries that can weigh almost as much as a small gas-powered car. And they have lower centers of gravity. Because of these differences, guardrails can do little to stop electric vehicles from pushing through barriers typically made of steel.

Last fall, engineers at Nebraska’s Midwest Roadside Safety Facility watched as an electric-powered pickup truck hurtled toward a guardrail installed on the facility’s testing ground on the edge of the local municipal airport. The nearly 4-ton (3.6 metric ton) 2022 Rivian R1T tore through the metal guardrail and hardly slowed until hitting a concrete barrier yards away on the other side.

“We knew it was going to be an extremely demanding test of the roadside safety system,” said Cody Stolle with the facility. “The system was not made to handle vehicles greater than 5,000 pounds.”

The university released the results of the crash test at a time when the rising popularity of electric vehicles has led transportation officials to sound the alarm over the weight disparity of the new battery-powered vehicles and lighter gas-powered ones. Last year, the National Transportation Safety Board expressed concern about the safety risks heavy electric vehicles pose if they collide with lighter vehicles.

Road safety officials and organizations say the electric vehicles themselves appear to offer superior protection to their occupants, even if they might prove dangerous to occupants of lighter vehicles. The Rivian truck tested in Nebraska showed almost no damage to the cab's interior after slamming into the concrete barrier, Stolle said. In response to the release of the test results Wednesday, Rivian Automotive Inc. noted that the truck used in the testing received a 2023 Top Safety Pick+ award, the highest tier award issued by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

But the entire purpose of guardrails, found along tens of thousands of miles of roadway, is to help keep passenger vehicles from leaving the road, said Michael Brooks, executive director of the nonprofit Center for Auto Safety. Guardrails are intended to keep cars from careening off the road at critical areas, such as over bridges and waterways, near the edges of cliffs and ravines and over rocky terrain, where injury and death in an off-the-road crash are much more likely.

“Guardrails are kind of a safety feature of last resort,” Brooks said. “I think what you're seeing here is the real concern with EVs — their weight. There are a lot of new vehicles in this larger-size range coming out in that 7,000-pound range. And that's a concern.”

The preliminary crash test sponsored by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ Research and Development Center also involved a Tesla sedan crash, in which the sedan lifted the guardrail and passed under it. The tests showed the barrier system is likely to be overmatched by heavier electric vehicles, officials said.

The extra weight of electric vehicles comes from their outsized batteries needed to achieve a travel range of about 300 miles (480 kilometers) per charge.

“So far, we don’t see good vehicle-to-guardrail compatibility with electric vehicles,” Stolle said.

More testing, involving computer simulations and test crashes of more electric vehicles, is planned, he said, and will be needed to determine how to engineer roadside barriers that minimize the effects of crashes for both lighter gas-powered vehicles and heavier electric vehicles.

“Right now, electric vehicles are at or around 10% of new vehicles sold, so we have some time,” Stolle said. “But as EVs continue to be sold and become more popular, this will become a more prevalent problem. There is some urgency to address this."

The facility has seen this problem before. In the 1990s, as more people began buying light-weight pickups and sport utility vehicles, the Midwest Roadside Safety Facility found that the then-50-year-old guardrail system was proving inadequate to handle their extra weight. So, it went about redesigning guardrails to adapt.

“At the time, lightweight pickups made up 10-to-15% of the vehicle fleet,” Stolle said. “Now, more than 50% of vehicles on the road are pickups and SUVs.”

“So, here we are trying to do the same thing again: Adapt to the changing makeup of vehicles on the road.”

It's impossible to know what that change will look like, Stolle said.

"It could be concrete barriers. It could be something else,” he said. “The scope of what we have to change and update still remains to be determined.”

Philip Jones, executive director of the Alliance for Transportation Electrification, which supports the use of electric vehicles in North America, questioned why electric vehicles were singled out in the testing, noting that several large SUV models can weigh around 6,000 pounds.

“The EVs are not necessarily heavier,” Jones said. “I drive a Chevy Bolt, and it’s 3,700 pounds.”

But he acknowledged that, on the whole, the first generation of electric vehicles are heavier than their gas-powered counterparts. Successive generations are likely to be lighter, he said, as manufacturers work to make smaller batteries that carry more power.

The U.S. Federal Highway Administration declined to immediately comment on the Nebraska test results.

The concern over the weight of electric vehicles stretches beyond vehicle-to-vehicle crashes and compatibility with guardrails, Brooks said. The extra weight will affect everything from faster wear on residential streets and driveways to vehicle tires and infrastructure like parking garages.

“A lot of these parking structures were built to hold vehicles that weighed 2,000 to 4,000 pounds — not 10,000 pounds,” he said.

“What really needs to happen is more collaboration between transportation engineers and vehicle manufacturers,” Brooks said. “That's where you might see some real change.”


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A 2022 Rivian R1T is used for a crash test research by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and Development Center and the University of Nebraska-Lincoln's Midwest Roadside Safety Facility on Oct. 12, 2023 in Lincoln, Neb. Preliminary tests point to concerns that the nation’s roadside guardrails are no match for new heavy electric vehicle





LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — Electric vehicles that typically weigh more than gasoline-powered cars can easily crash through steel highway guardrails that are not designed to withstand the extra force, raising concerns about the nation’s roadside safety system, according to crash test data released Wednesday by the University of Nebraska.

Electric vehicles typically weigh 20% to 50% more than gas-powered vehicles thanks to batteries that can weigh almost as much as a small gas-powered car. And they have lower centers of gravity. Because of these differences, guardrails can do little to stop electric vehicles from pushing through barriers typically made of steel.

Last fall, engineers at Nebraska’s Midwest Roadside Safety Facility watched as an electric-powered pickup truck hurtled toward a guardrail installed on the facility’s testing ground on the edge of the local municipal airport. The nearly 4-ton (3.6 metric ton) 2022 Rivian R1T tore through the metal guardrail and hardly slowed until hitting a concrete barrier yards away on the other side.

“We knew it was going to be an extremely demanding test of the roadside safety system,” said Cody Stolle with the facility. “The system was not made to handle vehicles greater than 5,000 pounds.”

The university released the results of the crash test at a time when the rising popularity of electric vehicles has led transportation officials to sound the alarm over the weight disparity of the new battery-powered vehicles and lighter gas-powered ones. Last year, the National Transportation Safety Board expressed concern about the safety risks heavy electric vehicles pose if they collide with lighter vehicles.

Road safety officials and organizations say the electric vehicles themselves appear to offer superior protection to their occupants, even if they might prove dangerous to occupants of lighter vehicles. The Rivian truck tested in Nebraska showed almost no damage to the cab's interior after slamming into the concrete barrier, Stolle said. In response to the release of the test results Wednesday, Rivian Automotive Inc. noted that the truck used in the testing received a 2023 Top Safety Pick+ award, the highest tier award issued by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

But the entire purpose of guardrails, found along tens of thousands of miles of roadway, is to help keep passenger vehicles from leaving the road, said Michael Brooks, executive director of the nonprofit Center for Auto Safety. Guardrails are intended to keep cars from careening off the road at critical areas, such as over bridges and waterways, near the edges of cliffs and ravines and over rocky terrain, where injury and death in an off-the-road crash are much more likely.

“Guardrails are kind of a safety feature of last resort,” Brooks said. “I think what you're seeing here is the real concern with EVs — their weight. There are a lot of new vehicles in this larger-size range coming out in that 7,000-pound range. And that's a concern.”

The preliminary crash test sponsored by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ Research and Development Center also involved a Tesla sedan crash, in which the sedan lifted the guardrail and passed under it. The tests showed the barrier system is likely to be overmatched by heavier electric vehicles, officials said.

The extra weight of electric vehicles comes from their outsized batteries needed to achieve a travel range of about 300 miles (480 kilometers) per charge.

“So far, we don’t see good vehicle-to-guardrail compatibility with electric vehicles,” Stolle said.

More testing, involving computer simulations and test crashes of more electric vehicles, is planned, he said, and will be needed to determine how to engineer roadside barriers that minimize the effects of crashes for both lighter gas-powered vehicles and heavier electric vehicles.

“Right now, electric vehicles are at or around 10% of new vehicles sold, so we have some time,” Stolle said. “But as EVs continue to be sold and become more popular, this will become a more prevalent problem. There is some urgency to address this."

The facility has seen this problem before. In the 1990s, as more people began buying light-weight pickups and sport utility vehicles, the Midwest Roadside Safety Facility found that the then-50-year-old guardrail system was proving inadequate to handle their extra weight. So, it went about redesigning guardrails to adapt.

“At the time, lightweight pickups made up 10-to-15% of the vehicle fleet,” Stolle said. “Now, more than 50% of vehicles on the road are pickups and SUVs.”

“So, here we are trying to do the same thing again: Adapt to the changing makeup of vehicles on the road.”

It's impossible to know what that change will look like, Stolle said.

"It could be concrete barriers. It could be something else,” he said. “The scope of what we have to change and update still remains to be determined.”

Philip Jones, executive director of the Alliance for Transportation Electrification, which supports the use of electric vehicles in North America, questioned why electric vehicles were singled out in the testing, noting that several large SUV models can weigh around 6,000 pounds.

“The EVs are not necessarily heavier,” Jones said. “I drive a Chevy Bolt, and it’s 3,700 pounds.”

But he acknowledged that, on the whole, the first generation of electric vehicles are heavier than their gas-powered counterparts. Successive generations are likely to be lighter, he said, as manufacturers work to make smaller batteries that carry more power.

The U.S. Federal Highway Administration declined to immediately comment on the Nebraska test results.

The concern over the weight of electric vehicles stretches beyond vehicle-to-vehicle crashes and compatibility with guardrails, Brooks said. The extra weight will affect everything from faster wear on residential streets and driveways to vehicle tires and infrastructure like parking garages.

“A lot of these parking structures were built to hold vehicles that weighed 2,000 to 4,000 pounds — not 10,000 pounds,” he said.

“What really needs to happen is more collaboration between transportation engineers and vehicle manufacturers,” Brooks said. “That's where you might see some real change.”
Officer: “Do you know why I stopped you?”

Disoriented EV Driver: “No..sir…did I do something wrong?”

Officer: “not really. But you did crash through 6 concrete barriers, flip over twice, careen through a dense evergreen forest, inadvertently create a new river system, fly through mid-air over a ravine that rivals the Grand Canyon, slide through a long-burning forest fire, float through 2 wide lakes, entered and exited a military base, and finally came to rest on Canadian soil.”

Disoriented EV driver: “f’ing eh?”
 

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A 2022 Rivian R1T is used for a crash test research by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and Development Center and the University of Nebraska-Lincoln's Midwest Roadside Safety Facility on Oct. 12, 2023 in Lincoln, Neb. Preliminary tests point to concerns that the nation’s roadside guardrails are no match for new heavy electric vehicle





LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — Electric vehicles that typically weigh more than gasoline-powered cars can easily crash through steel highway guardrails that are not designed to withstand the extra force, raising concerns about the nation’s roadside safety system, according to crash test data released Wednesday by the University of Nebraska.

Electric vehicles typically weigh 20% to 50% more than gas-powered vehicles thanks to batteries that can weigh almost as much as a small gas-powered car. And they have lower centers of gravity. Because of these differences, guardrails can do little to stop electric vehicles from pushing through barriers typically made of steel.

Last fall, engineers at Nebraska’s Midwest Roadside Safety Facility watched as an electric-powered pickup truck hurtled toward a guardrail installed on the facility’s testing ground on the edge of the local municipal airport. The nearly 4-ton (3.6 metric ton) 2022 Rivian R1T tore through the metal guardrail and hardly slowed until hitting a concrete barrier yards away on the other side.

“We knew it was going to be an extremely demanding test of the roadside safety system,” said Cody Stolle with the facility. “The system was not made to handle vehicles greater than 5,000 pounds.”

The university released the results of the crash test at a time when the rising popularity of electric vehicles has led transportation officials to sound the alarm over the weight disparity of the new battery-powered vehicles and lighter gas-powered ones. Last year, the National Transportation Safety Board expressed concern about the safety risks heavy electric vehicles pose if they collide with lighter vehicles.

Road safety officials and organizations say the electric vehicles themselves appear to offer superior protection to their occupants, even if they might prove dangerous to occupants of lighter vehicles. The Rivian truck tested in Nebraska showed almost no damage to the cab's interior after slamming into the concrete barrier, Stolle said. In response to the release of the test results Wednesday, Rivian Automotive Inc. noted that the truck used in the testing received a 2023 Top Safety Pick+ award, the highest tier award issued by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

But the entire purpose of guardrails, found along tens of thousands of miles of roadway, is to help keep passenger vehicles from leaving the road, said Michael Brooks, executive director of the nonprofit Center for Auto Safety. Guardrails are intended to keep cars from careening off the road at critical areas, such as over bridges and waterways, near the edges of cliffs and ravines and over rocky terrain, where injury and death in an off-the-road crash are much more likely.

“Guardrails are kind of a safety feature of last resort,” Brooks said. “I think what you're seeing here is the real concern with EVs — their weight. There are a lot of new vehicles in this larger-size range coming out in that 7,000-pound range. And that's a concern.”

The preliminary crash test sponsored by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ Research and Development Center also involved a Tesla sedan crash, in which the sedan lifted the guardrail and passed under it. The tests showed the barrier system is likely to be overmatched by heavier electric vehicles, officials said.

The extra weight of electric vehicles comes from their outsized batteries needed to achieve a travel range of about 300 miles (480 kilometers) per charge.

“So far, we don’t see good vehicle-to-guardrail compatibility with electric vehicles,” Stolle said.

More testing, involving computer simulations and test crashes of more electric vehicles, is planned, he said, and will be needed to determine how to engineer roadside barriers that minimize the effects of crashes for both lighter gas-powered vehicles and heavier electric vehicles.

“Right now, electric vehicles are at or around 10% of new vehicles sold, so we have some time,” Stolle said. “But as EVs continue to be sold and become more popular, this will become a more prevalent problem. There is some urgency to address this."

The facility has seen this problem before. In the 1990s, as more people began buying light-weight pickups and sport utility vehicles, the Midwest Roadside Safety Facility found that the then-50-year-old guardrail system was proving inadequate to handle their extra weight. So, it went about redesigning guardrails to adapt.

“At the time, lightweight pickups made up 10-to-15% of the vehicle fleet,” Stolle said. “Now, more than 50% of vehicles on the road are pickups and SUVs.”

“So, here we are trying to do the same thing again: Adapt to the changing makeup of vehicles on the road.”

It's impossible to know what that change will look like, Stolle said.

"It could be concrete barriers. It could be something else,” he said. “The scope of what we have to change and update still remains to be determined.”

Philip Jones, executive director of the Alliance for Transportation Electrification, which supports the use of electric vehicles in North America, questioned why electric vehicles were singled out in the testing, noting that several large SUV models can weigh around 6,000 pounds.

“The EVs are not necessarily heavier,” Jones said. “I drive a Chevy Bolt, and it’s 3,700 pounds.”

But he acknowledged that, on the whole, the first generation of electric vehicles are heavier than their gas-powered counterparts. Successive generations are likely to be lighter, he said, as manufacturers work to make smaller batteries that carry more power.

The U.S. Federal Highway Administration declined to immediately comment on the Nebraska test results.

The concern over the weight of electric vehicles stretches beyond vehicle-to-vehicle crashes and compatibility with guardrails, Brooks said. The extra weight will affect everything from faster wear on residential streets and driveways to vehicle tires and infrastructure like parking garages.

“A lot of these parking structures were built to hold vehicles that weighed 2,000 to 4,000 pounds — not 10,000 pounds,” he said.

“What really needs to happen is more collaboration between transportation engineers and vehicle manufacturers,” Brooks said. “That's where you might see some real change.”
 

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So I guess that barriers are like butter to Semi-tractors?
 


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Here’s one (of the many) flaws with that study. They state that the “system was not made to handle vehicles greater than 5,000 lbs. And then they go connect that weight to EVs. Yes, the Rivian is over 5k#, but outside of trucks, almost none of the EVs are over 5k#. The Tesla models 3, Y and S are under. The X is barely over. In gas cars, the suburban is over 5K#, the F150 has trims just over 5k#, the F250 and up are ALL over 5k#. The article “somehow” missed that. MAYBE the problem isn’t with the EVs (or big cars), it’s with the wooden guard rail system??? I would imagine that even the Model X with its CG so much lower than a suburban stands a better chance of being helped by a guard rail than a higher CG F250 or Yukon XL. The facility (Univ of Nebraska-Lincoln’s Roadside Safety Facility) is nothing short of dishonest when they test a BEV TRUCK and compare it to “an average gasoline powered sedan). Really? No kidding. Who would have ever thought that a TRUCK would weigh more than a car? What a load of propaganda. The real headline is “Current U.S. guardrails are insufficient against large trucks and SUVs.”
 

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Here’s one (of the many) flaws with that study. They state that the “system was not made to handle vehicles greater than 5,000 lbs. And then they go connect that weight to EVs. Yes, the Rivian is over 5k#, but outside of trucks, almost none of the EVs are over 5k#. The Tesla models 3, Y and S are under. The X is barely over. In gas cars, the suburban is over 5K#, the F150 has trims just over 5k#, the F250 and up are ALL over 5k#. The article “somehow” missed that. MAYBE the problem isn’t with the EVs (or big cars), it’s with the wooden guard rail system??? I would imagine that even the Model X with its CG so much lower than a suburban stands a better chance of being helped by a guard rail than a higher CG F250 or Yukon XL. The facility (Univ of Nebraska-Lincoln’s Roadside Safety Facility) is nothing short of dishonest when they test a BEV TRUCK and compare it to “an average gasoline powered sedan). Really? No kidding. Who would have ever thought that a TRUCK would weigh more than a car? What a load of propaganda. The real headline is “Current U.S. guardrails are insufficient against large trucks and SUVs.”
And since when are concrete barriers considered guard rails? Especially the short ones. And when are you expected to hit them perpendicular?
 

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The real headline is “Current U.S. guardrails are insufficient against large trucks and SUVs.”
That's stated in the article.

The facility has seen this problem before. In the 1990s, as more people began buying light-weight pickups and sport utility vehicles, the Midwest Roadside Safety Facility found that the then-50-year-old guardrail system was proving inadequate to handle their extra weight. So, it went about redesigning guardrails to adapt.

“At the time, lightweight pickups made up 10-to-15% of the vehicle fleet,” Stolle said. “Now, more than 50% of vehicles on the road are pickups and SUVs.”

“So, here we are trying to do the same thing again: Adapt to the changing makeup of vehicles on the road.”

It's impossible to know what that change will look like, Stolle said.

"It could be concrete barriers. It could be something else,” he said. “The scope of what we have to change and update still remains to be determined.”

Philip Jones, executive director of the Alliance for Transportation Electrification, which supports the use of electric vehicles in North America, questioned why electric vehicles were singled out in the testing, noting that several large SUV models can weigh around 6,000 pounds.

“The EVs are not necessarily heavier,” Jones said. “I drive a Chevy Bolt, and it’s 3,700 pounds.”

But he acknowledged that, on the whole, the first generation of electric vehicles are heavier than their gas-powered counterparts. Successive generations are likely to be lighter, he said, as manufacturers work to make smaller batteries that carry more power.
 

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That's stated in the article.
Not really. It is implied in that statement, buried in the article. But like I said, the HEADLINE should be directed at the barriers...
 

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And since when are concrete barriers considered guard rails? Especially the short ones. And when are you expected to hit them perpendicular?
It does happen. You see skid marks of an accident that begins 3 or 4 lanes over and they veer over and are 60+ degrees off at time of impact. But, and I agree with what you are saying, what would a barrier need to look like to stop every vehicle on the road from crossing over when hit at 60+ degrees and 75-85mph? And if you could contain the vehicle, what chances of survival would the occupants have?

The F1 barriers work because they are all hit by cars that are designed for the types of impacts you are likely to have, at the most likely angles you are likely to have them. And when someone hits one at an angle that they weren't expecting, bad things can happen. Just ask Romain Grosjean.
 


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It does happen. You see skid marks of an accident that begins 3 or 4 lanes over and they veer over and are 60+ degrees off at time of impact. But, and I agree with what you are saying, what would a barrier need to look like to stop every vehicle on the road from crossing over when hit at 60+ degrees and 75-85mph? And if you could contain the vehicle, what chances of survival would the occupants have?

The F1 barriers work because they are all hit by cars that are designed for the types of impacts you are likely to have, at the most likely angles you are likely to have them. And when someone hits one at an angle that they weren't expecting, bad things can happen. Just ask Romain Grosjean.
And that's why non-divided Interstates now have 6ft center barriers. And even non-divided Interstates are installing capture wires to hopefully snag a wheel and slow down the traversal of the median.


It all comes back to the reason why protective barriers are installed. It's not to protect vehicles, it's to protect the inhabitants.

Teslas may require expensive repairs when in accidents, but they save lives by doing so. I don't think that the Cybrertruck could have a better testimonial than it's first accident with the Toyota. You normally don't walk away from a vehicle that got t-boned on the driver's side.
 

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There are plenty of traditional ICE vehicles, trucks, and semi's very much heavier than electric vehicles having been on U.S. highways for decades and as long as guard rails have existed.

Who knew? Oh wait - most people with common sense.

Most guard rail impacts are not head on, as guard rails are designed mainly to prevent veering into dangerous areas. This is why they have their specific profile to add rigidity from side swipes while having less surface contact friction with the vehicle. They're also designed to crumple and curl if impacted into their end, to prevent stabbing through the vehicle crashing into them.

Can't believe such an article is even published. Well actually, today yes I can. There's going to be a lot of bogus headlines out there especially in the MSM which is not surprising and wise to ignore.

If EV's are 'too heavy for the guard rail system', then so were many vehicles of the 50's, 60's, 70's and today. The 1956 Buick Roadmaster, 1957 Buick Special, 1958 Chrysler New Yorker, 1967 Cadillac Eldorado, and 1978 Buick Estate Wagon were all well over 4000 lbs, and the 1976 Ford Thunderbird was about 4900 lbs. These vehicles also didn't have the crumple zones mandated today, so their impact on a guard rail would do even more damage than one of today's EVs. These are just a few examples.

Then you can take a newer large pickup truck of today's models such as the 2020 GMC Sierra 3500HD weighing in a 6743 lbs with the shortest bed configuration. Let alone all the other dually trucks, tow trucks, commercial box trucks, and semis out there.

Why they didn't publish this article when the 9500 lb GMC Hummer EV started production back in 2022?

Seriously some of this FUD desperation is so laughable.

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