Cybertruck home charging and utility Time of Use, overnight rates, Not enough time

[kpanda17]

How often do you need to go from 0 to 100% tho?

-Crissa

long road trips, monthly, 5-95%

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[kpanda17]

As a Pacific Gas & Electric customer in the Bay Area, supercharing is often cheaper than charging at home.

insane

 

[Gurule92]

I'm actually looking at switching to a time of use plan because my normal non time of use rate is like 11c/kwh and the off peak is like .06 or something crazy. But my roofing company STILL hasn't put my solar back on. (3 months and counting)

Id say in the rare case when you need to charge that long. You can just eat that difference. Even the peak rate doesn't look too crazy

 

[kpanda17]

Or a Powerwall.

makes sense, if the ToU window is only 6-8 hours and you need 10 for the 5-95% charge, then use the PW to finish or start
crazy we have to do this, the utilities should just be told what to do
I get the peak ding and attempting to get us to use less power during the 3pm-7pm everyone home window, but the other times should have better super off peak pricing

 

[kpanda17]

I'm actually looking at switching to a time of use plan because my normal non time of use rate is like 11c/kwh and the off peak is like .06 or something crazy. But my roofing company STILL hasn't put my solar back on. (3 months and counting)

Id say in the rare case when you need to charge that long. You can just eat that difference. Even the peak rate doesn't look too crazy

my peak rate diff from super off peak is an 82% rate spike, robbery

 

[Crissa]

long road trips, monthly, 5-95%

...You need 95% the next day?

I need sleep the next day.

-Crissa

 

[Celiboy]

only rarely, but there must be forum members that drive and drain the battery fully
the utilities are driving us toward solar and powerwalls definitely
what happened to sustainable energy driving down electricity costs...

Your rate is 8 cents a kilowatt hour super off peak and 12 cents peak? Am I reading that correctly? Is that a higher rate for your area?

I’m in California and although my off peak ToU is midnight to 3pm, the rate is 4 times your Super off peak. Even though it’s higher, I’m still saving more money than when I was filling up my ICE truck. Because I start work at 7, my realistic charging window is 6 hours. For that reason I charge more frequently at 30%-50%.

 

[Celiboy]

As a Californian, these rates make me physically ill...

I couldn’t agree more. At those rates I’d charge any damn time I felt like it .

 

[kpanda17]

Your rate is 8 cents a kilowatt hour super off peak and 12 cents peak? Am I reading that correctly? Is that a higher rate for your area?

I’m in California and although my off peak ToU is midnight to 3pm, the rate is 4 times your Super off peak. Even though it’s higher, I’m still saving more money than when I was filling up my ICE truck. Because I start work at 7, my realistic charging window is 6 hours. For that reason I charge more frequently at 30%-50%.

0.083 goes to 0.17, nasty

 

[Celiboy]

0.083 goes to 0.17, nasty

Yeah that’s a pretty significant jump. Hopefully with your normal use you’ll be able to stay in the super off peak window. I charged from 30%-80% last night which cost about $14. At your super off peak rate it would it would have been $4.56. I hate PG&E.

Thankfully I have solar so my cost is offset some if not all depending on the day.

 

[Gurule92]

my peak rate diff from super off peak is an 82% rate spike, robbery

Yea, it's higher. But not too bad compared to some places. And you wouldn't be using that for too long

 

[HaulingAss]

Time of Use (TOU) rate schedules are becoming more common as regulators encourage utilities seek to make more efficient use of transmission lines and generating assets. If those assets can be utilized more fully, at all times of the day, it makes each kWh of electricity cost less to generate and deliver.

That's a good reason to always install the highest amperage charging circuits that your electrical service can fit, because you never know when your utility might add TOU rate schedules that can save you money if your EVs can charge within the period that has the lowest rates.

You will sleep well knowing you are doing your part to maximize grid efficiency. With growing solar generation, what we really need is to encourage employers to install employee charging, so more people can charge mid-day, when the sun is shining and there is a surplus of electricity. If more EVs could suck up that mid-day surplus, more fossil fuel generators could be shut down at night. Of course if you're home mid-morning to early afternoon, and have solar, that's also good.

 

[agordon117]

You will sleep well knowing you are doing your part to maximize grid efficiency.

LOL.

If efficiency is any piece of a concern for anyone, the most efficient thing you can do is driving your existing vehicle until it breaks, then fix it, and keep driving it.

The way PG&E operates, and the amount of people they service, it's hard to pretend that anyone cares where electricity is coming from, or how efficiently it's being produced. the tiny credit someone gets per KWh produced vs how much they would have to pay to use a KWh from the grid at the same time of day, is insane. All of the people here that were worried about powershare bumping their plan up to NEM 3.0 made me dig into that a little bit today. What I read was really insane. The only incentive they are driving you towards is having your own personal giant battery bank and solar panels so you never need to buy electricity at their crazy rates. Otherwise nobody would bother installing new solar to help anything, because it only serves to penalize you unless you are self sufficient.

 

[CyberGus]

the most efficient thing you can do is driving your existing vehicle until it breaks, then fix it, and keep driving it

I do not see how this is efficient. There is no penalty to "efficiency" for replacing a vehicle.

 

[agordon117]

I do not see how this is efficient. There is no penalty to "efficiency" for replacing a vehicle.

sure there is. That vehicle didn't come from nowhere. A lot of energy was used to create it. ICE or EV, it doesn't matter. there were processes in the production of that vehicle that cannot be offset just by saying "oh we used solar for some of the energy used to produce this".

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