Cybertruck needs back up warnings

[Ward L]

I've purchased a number of cars in 15 years that didn't have them.

I think it is fair to expect my CT to have backup alarms given my 6 year old Tesla Model 3 has back up alarms. Yes, my CT is better with OTA updates and it will continue to get better. BUTT, the OTA so far are only making the CT what I have already paid for. I need OTA updates for FSD, which really isn’t FSD, and backup alarms…. When talking about CT Tesla Vision with the service manager, he said the CT will never have the measurements on the screen like my Model 3. For example, the M3 displays you are 20” from an object. I expected to have similar features on my CT as my M3. I think that is why we had to acknowledge the CT comes with “Tesla Vision” (deleting the need for radar) before recieving the CT. Now Tesla can define Tesla Vision anyway they want to avoid a lawsuit.

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[CYBEAST]

I've purchased a number of cars in 15 years that didn't have them.

How many were 100k plus?

 

[agordon117]

You guys all have to understand that this is what Woodrick does. He comes into every post with valid complaints and expresses how tesla cannot ever make a bad decision, and anyone who wishes a feature existed or something worked differently should not have bought the truck or any vehicle from tesla.

Don't like the lack of communication? don't buy it.
Don't like the fact that they will try to schedule your pickup at the last minute and not be flexible on dates? don't buy it
Don't like that 6 months after deliveries started we don't have autopilot or backup sensors? don't buy it.

He will then go on to talk about how tesla isn't like other companies, so they should be held to a much lower standard in every category, and if you expect for $100k that they could address any of this, you, the reader, are the one who is crazy. If you want any of tesla's many problems fixed, you should expect to pay $200k instead (or some similar nonsensical thing).

 

[Woodrick]

I think it is fair to expect my CT to have backup alarms given my 6 year old Tesla Model 3 has back up alarms. Yes, my CT is better with OTA updates and it will continue to get better. BUTT, the OTA so far are only making the CT what I have already paid for. I need OTA updates for FSD, which really isn’t FSD, and backup alarms…. When talking about CT Tesla Vision with the service manager, he said the CT will never have the measurements on the screen like my Model 3. For example, the M3 displays you are 20” from an object. I expected to have similar features on my CT as my M3. I think that is why we had to acknowledge the CT comes with “Tesla Vision” (deleting the need for radar) before recieving the CT. Now Tesla can define Tesla Vision anyway they want to avoid a lawsuit.

Yes, you are correct. But I'll add that Model Ys and I believe Model 3s built since Oct 2023 didn't have the USS and they has the same or less than the Cybertruck does today. There is a precedent out there.

Expecting the same as a 2018 Model 3 isn't fair. Tesla has made a lot of changes, and most have been discussed ad nauseum on the forums, for good or bad.

BTW, "Tesla Vision" has nothing to do with radar. Radar just wasn't being used by anything. "Tesla Vision" is the replacement for the USS (ultrasonic) sensors, plus a lot more functionality.

So yes, you may be correct.

But no, it's not in the Cybertruck today, but should be soon.

 

[Woodrick]

You guys all have to understand that this is what Woodrick does. He comes into every post with valid complaints and expresses how tesla cannot ever make a bad decision, and anyone who wishes a feature existed or something worked differently should not have bought the truck or any vehicle from tesla.

Don't like the lack of communication? don't buy it.
Don't like the fact that they will try to schedule your pickup at the last minute and not be flexible on dates? don't buy it
Don't like that 6 months after deliveries started we don't have autopilot or backup sensors? don't buy it.

He will then go on to talk about how tesla isn't like other companies, so they should be held to a much lower standard in every category, and if you expect for $100k that they could address any of this, you, the reader, are the one who is crazy. If you want any of tesla's many problems fixed, you should expect to pay $200k instead (or some similar nonsensical thing).

Valid complaints are indeed valid complaints. But kicking the dead horse isn't needed.

FSD is not here yet, that includes Tesla vision and various other features. For those that come to the forums to learn, all they need is one thread with two or three responses confirming. That don't need 50 threads of 500 messages each.

FSD is not here yet.

And you talk about how expensive the truck is and how Tesla should be white gloving everything just for you. Maybe so, but it isn't this way.
On some of the other Tesla forums, I can go back 5-6 years and find essentially the exact verbiage of your last paragraph.
I'm not trying to make up for Tesla, just trying to set expectations of how Tesla does things. It is different than any other vehicle that you bought, from a $1,000 Pinto to a $1M car.

They aren't excuses; they are facts.

It's similar to going into your old corner grocery store and everyone knew your name to buying at Amazon.

It's a different model for the 21st century. And it's Tesla's attempt to reduce the price of vehicles. From the price of the Model 3 and Model Y dropping, you can see that the model does have promise.

 

[brendah369]

I can second the observation that backup warnings would be really nice. I was backing into my drive this past weekend, at night, with a dimly lit driveway. I missed my backup camera landmarks by just a small bit, and wound up backing into the side of the house. Damaged the bumper and scuffed the rear quarter panel. Will find out on Monday how much that little error is going to cost.....

My Y would alert me if I was about to hit something. I really miss that feature and I hope it is coming soon.

 

[Frank_Castle]

Having to wait for FSD to get collision warnings on the front and back end is kind of BS. These days, it's a pretty basic feature. This was a decent sized hole in the initial release.

 

[Woodrick]

Having to wait for FSD to get collision warnings on the front and back end is kind of BS. These days, it's a pretty basic feature. This was a decent sized hole in the initial release.

You are absolutely right; it is available in other vehicles.
Tesla could have delayed introduction of the Cybertruck for another year for FSD to be available?
Would that have been your preference?

Tesla uses the vision system and AI to do all of this work.
TACC is an old piece of hand code from about 5 years ago.

 

[Frank_Castle]

You are absolutely right; it is available in other vehicles.
Tesla could have delayed introduction of the Cybertruck for another year for FSD to be available?
Would that have been your preference?

Tesla uses the vision system and AI to do all of this work.
TACC is an old piece of hand code from about 5 years ago.

I'm an old SR software developer. I don't its required to delay an entire vehicle launch due to FSD, but the software is prob object based and that portion could have been ported out easily, just like the custom cybertruck O/S on the main screen.

We're talking basic safety functionality.

 

[Stuck4ger]

the CT will definitely get all that stuff. The new vision-only MX just got that all turned on and it works well but it’s still improving. Some things I liked better with the ultrasonic sensors but they just recently added features that surpass what was possible with the older cars. As an example, the new auto park works amazingly well, you scroll to highlight the spot you want and the car backs in with efficiency & precision. The driver side door still only automatically opens a few inches when it used to open as wide as possible without dinging the car next to you but that will eventually get an OTA update once they have more data points. Until then I’d rather it not open enough than open too far!

And about a week ago the Tesla Vision-only Model X doors began opening fully!

 

[Crissa]

We're talking basic safety functionality.

It's not a basic function.

Not to defend Tesla being weirdly slow on the occupancy stuff for vision vehicles, but this isn't a feature on basic vehicles.

You guys specifically bought the truck to have it early. You could've waited.

-Crissa

 

[Frank_Castle]

It's not a basic function.

Not to defend Tesla being weirdly slow on the occupancy stuff for vision vehicles, but this isn't a feature on basic vehicles

I'm cool on waiting on FSD. It's still in dev for the rest of the fleet too, until robo cars are an every day thing.

What cars North of 60k don't have back up warnings if not an overhead view? We're all entitled to opinions. Given the size of the trucks, many drivers with garages that barely fit the truck and length of the super charger cables, this should have been included in the initial release

Rest is history. Still love the truck. Cheers

 

[Crissa]

I'm cool on waiting on FSD. It's still in dev for the rest of the fleet too, until robo cars are an every day thing.

What cars North of 60k don't have back up warnings if not an overhead view? We're all entitled to opinions. Given the size of the trucks, many drivers with garages that barely fit the truck and length of the super charger cables, this should have been included in the initial release

Rest is history. Still love the truck. Cheers

Overhead view is patented by Ford.

And the rest I don't know, and I don't care. You didn't pay for a finished vehicle, you paid for an early vehicle.

-Crissa

 

[CT19TX]

Dinged my bumper backing into the barn tonight. Kinda sucks but oh well, it’s a truck.

 

[Woodrick]

I'm an old SR software developer. I don't its required to delay an entire vehicle launch due to FSD, but the software is prob object based and that portion could have been ported out easily, just like the custom cybertruck O/S on the main screen.

We're talking basic safety functionality.

Except that Tesla Vision is the heart of what is missing. It's the recognition that is a big job for the AI.

And sure, maybe they could have taken the time to spilt them apart and delivery one before the other. They didn't have the desire, direction, or even need to do so.
It's been known for a long time that FSD in the Cybertruck is going to lag behind the fleet.
And it's also relatively well known that HW4 development is going to be 6-12 months lagging behind HW3 development.

I've got a 2018 Model 3 and 2020 Model Y. They went a while before they even got what the Cybertruck has today.

Elon's promise at this point and direction at this time is for the people that have waited the longest. As a Model 3 and Model Y owner, do I want Tesla diverting resources for their newest vehicle and slow my development down? Heck no!

Another way to look at it is that it appears as if they will ship it before they get 40,000 Cybertrucks on the road!

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