Cybertruck Range please answer below.

[koolio]

I average 420 Wh/m on 35"x12.5"R18 Gripmax extreme terrain tires on wheels with a +18mm offset. So that's 123000 Wh / 420 Wh/m = roughly 293 miles

On stock tires and OEM wheels I was getting around 390 Wh/m, roughly 315 miles. ?‍

Honestly, I've stopped worry about it. Charging is so easy, fast, and affordable that for my needs I haven't once thought "gee, wish I could continuously drive for more than 300 miles at time..." I gotta pee at least every 150 anyway since I'm constantly sipping water while driving.

Agree. Don’t worry about the range. Just drive it and charge it when you get home.

That said, I’ve been pleasantly surprised at how the CT routinely gets at or slightly better than rated range (320-380 wh/mi).

That said, I have 3200 miles on my AWD and lifetime is 445 wh/mi, but that’s inflated a bit because I was Supercharging it exclusively when I had 3 months free Supercharging (when warming / navigating to the supercharger it’d increase my consumption to warm the pack).

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[Merc_s55]

Question about 'cold' weather driving...

I chatted with someone in Finland who told me their Model Y only loses about 5% when temps go below 0 (F) BUT it depends on the ROADS and what's on them... Namely, snow...

He said when there's snow it loses A LOT more, not because of the cold, but because the cars tires have to work that much harder to 'push' or channel the snow/ice while driving...

He mentioned how if he's on a freshly plowed/salted highway his mileage is MUCH better even with the sub-zero temps compared to a trip on the same highway that hasn't been cleared for a few hours...

Do you find the same thing?

Yes. It's not just the cold. Although that affects not only the battery, but the wheel bearings, etc. We also have to push snow sometimes. I don't have exact numbers, but it was quite low, around 200 miles. Now as it warms up, it's much better.

 

[Lasttoy]

My S has 230k miles. Been in over 30 states. I know how to drive Tesla.

 

[scorpionclaw]

I got 320 on my 2025 AWD with regular wheels and tires on a 5 hour trip mostly 70 mph.

 

[Jager]

For decades, surveys have shown that a substantial majority of drivers think they are "better than average."

Yeah. Try and get the math to work on that one.

The truth is, most drivers suck. The telemetry in modern cars - and EV's, especially - provide an unambiguous metric of that.

I cringe after my wife or son drive my Model 3. The efficiency plummets.

For sure, there are external factors at play. Most of us can't choose where we live. Or the route to work. But even considering those things, there's a reason most drivers never hit the EPA range bogey.

The reasons are not new. But EV's are bluntly honest in a way that ICE vehicles never were.

 

[Gigahorse]

AWD on Core Wheels get about 280 but that is mostly highway driving at 75mph


The real issue is the charge speed. The CT is currently charging like a big battery Model Y, if you visit one of the 9 superchargers in the world that can put out more power you see 322kw for about 7s then the curve drops off a cliff.

6 months ago Tesla said 500kw for the CT specifically was coming, 6months ago

 

[carsly]

AWD on Core Wheels get about 280 but that is mostly highway driving at 75mph


The real issue is the charge speed. The CT is currently charging like a big battery Model Y, if you visit one of the 9 superchargers in the world that can put out more power you see 322kw for about 7s then the curve drops off a cliff.

6 months ago Tesla said 500kw for the CT specifically was coming, 6months ago

Peak charge rates are irrelevant. Frankly, most DCFC speeds are non meaningful for many, if not most, drivers since they are charging at home or work on Level 1/2 during the work day or overnight. 32 amps and 240v is plenty - can add over 70kwh in 10 hours or 90+kwh in 10 hours if you have 48 amp charging.

Sure, for the occasional highway jaunt/road trip you may want/need to DCFC but even then if it takes 18 minutes 20-80% or 23 mins 20-80% isn't a meaningful enough difference unless you're driving across the country and stringing together 8-10 charges back to back to back.

Would love to see CT hold 200 kw from dead to 70%, don't care about the peak. But it's largely academic for many buyers.

 

[Gigahorse]

Peak charge rates are irrelevant. Frankly, most DCFC speeds are non meaningful for many, if not most, drivers since they are charging at home or work on Level 1/2 during the work day or overnight. 32 amps and 240v is plenty - can add over 70kwh in 10 hours or 90+kwh in 10 hours if you have 48 amp charging.

Sure, for the occasional highway jaunt/road trip you may want/need to DCFC but even then if it takes 18 minutes 20-80% or 23 mins 20-80% isn't a meaningful enough difference unless you're driving across the country and stringing together 8-10 charges back to back to back.

Would love to see CT hold 200 kw from dead to 70%, don't care about the peak. But it's largely academic for many buyers.

Two factors for drive-ability of an EV
Range and Charge Speed
CT skimped on range with 123k battery pack but promised 500kw of charging, they need to make good on the back end with a decent curve if they want mass market adoption and for the CT to not just become another fringe product like the Model X.

Sitting at a supercharger with a trailer in the parking lot I had to unhook from, while my truck charges at sub 150kw because I need over 80% to get to the next one is not "driving the future" and Tesla needs to turn on the juice!

 

[carsly]

Sitting at a supercharger with a trailer in the parking lot I had to unhook from, while my truck charges at sub 150kw because I need over 80% to get to the next one is not "driving the future" and Tesla needs to turn on the juice!

In that case, we were promised 1 MW charging with Cybertruck. But not sure that's happening anytime soon.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-cybertruck-semi-megacharger-compatibility/

 

[Texarado]

Two factors for drive-ability of an EV
Range and Charge Speed
CT skimped on range with 123k battery pack but promised 500kw of charging, they need to make good on the back end with a decent curve if they want mass market adoption and for the CT to not just become another fringe product like the Model X.

Sitting at a supercharger with a trailer in the parking lot I had to unhook from, while my truck charges at sub 150kw because I need over 80% to get to the next one is not "driving the future" and Tesla needs to turn on the juice!

Of all o the stalls I’ve charged at while towing, I bet I’ve only had to disconnect 25-30% of the time. Granted, this could be because I live in Texas where chargers aren’t as filled as the coasts. But still, the vast majority of the time I don’t need to disconnect. In time, that will be fixed too as more chargers are rolled out. Just a matter of time.

Tesla is dropping some MAJOR charging locations across central Texas area. The one in Temple has a whopping 72 spots, but others have 50+. And the added benefit of a Buc-ee’s. Brilliant.

 

[Paul Scott]

I have a dual motor foundation series all-wheel-drive with the stock wheels and cyber hubcaps. Full charge estimates about 310 miles. It seems to get pretty close to that temperatures are usually between 50 and 85° and frequent elevation changes. I just drove last weekend from LasVegas to Beatty. I charged in Beatty and then drove around through death Valley and Ash Meadows and back to Vegas and still had about 80 miles of rain left when I got home.

 

[HickoryGoose]

AWD on Core Wheels get about 280 but that is mostly highway driving at 75mph


The real issue is the charge speed. The CT is currently charging like a big battery Model Y, if you visit one of the 9 superchargers in the world that can put out more power you see 322kw for about 7s then the curve drops off a cliff.

6 months ago Tesla said 500kw for the CT specifically was coming, 6months ago

We have the identical set up and I’m averaging 360 Wh/m. I attribute a lot of the difference to topography and temp, but it’s a big difference. I rarely go over 70 on the highway.

 

[Beetlebug62]

Question about 'cold' weather driving...

I chatted with someone in Finland who told me their Model Y only loses about 5% when temps go below 0 (F) BUT it depends on the ROADS and what's on them... Namely, snow...

He said when there's snow it loses A LOT more, not because of the cold, but because the cars tires have to work that much harder to 'push' or channel the snow/ice while driving...

He mentioned how if he's on a freshly plowed/salted highway his mileage is MUCH better even with the sub-zero temps compared to a trip on the same highway that hasn't been cleared for a few hours...

Do you find the same thing?

I only just got my CT a few wks ago, so I can't comment much on how cold affects its range; but, in 7 winters of driving my Model 3, I can say, this is my scatterplot for driving efficiency vs temps:

I don't think a best-fit line is accurate, as I suspect it's more of a curve. Anyhow, my impression is that I lose about 20% based upon cold from 70° dropping to about 32°F. And if there's rain, I lose another 5%; and if there's snow 10%, but it depends upon whether it's slushy or dry cold snow. When things are really cold, I can easily see losing 40-50%.

 

[HaulingAss]

Two factors for drive-ability of an EV
Range and Charge Speed

Disagree, almost all modern EVs will DCFC very quickly (with an appropriately low SOC%), with not a huge difference between most of them. The Rivian seems to be one of the outliers with a huge battery and only 150 kW charge speed and, even then, we are only talking a few minutes difference.

What matters more is the reliability of the chargers you use. Because, when using the Supercharger Network, you know the chargers are going to work when you get there (they report operational status on the center screen and are rarely down).

EV owners have it pretty good these days, as long as they are not one of the unfortunate few who live in remote areas with a low density of Superchargers.

 

[Gigahorse]

We have the identical set up and I’m averaging 360 Wh/m. I attribute a lot of the difference to topography and temp, but it’s a big difference. I rarely go over 70 on the highway.

Yea WA is going to have a lot more up and down, and temp difference. Little higher speed here and it likely evens out due to the other environmental factors.
What we have in common is the need for FASTER charging, I can live with 120 miles of towing range, but can't live with the fact that I have to charge for 90minutes.

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