Do the OEM All-Terrain Tires Warrant a Recall?

[poop]

I just rolled over 14,000 miles on the original all-terrain tires and I’m frankly shocked at how quickly they’ve deteriorated. By 5,000 miles I’d already replaced one tire under warranty for foam separation; another followed at 11,000 miles. At 12,000 miles I had a puncture plugged (no nail found), and just a day before I planned to swap them out for the rugged “winter” AT tires in the tesla shop, a fourth tire sprung a leak (also, no nail).


I’ve read countless reports of owners needing to replace stock wheels before even hitting 10,000 miles, and many more complaints about foam delamination. When I brought my concerns to the service manager, he brushed them off—insinuating I’d been off-roading or abusing the truck. In reality, I live on a gravel road and never exceed 10 mph on it; I’ve also never taken it off-road.

He just kept saying the OEM ones are "all-terrain" in quotes and that they are more like city tires. (I've attached photos of the OEM AT vs. the AT ones in the shop)


Interestingly, my previous two Model Y’s never exhibited any of these issues. Could the extra weight of the Cybertruck, a potential manufacturing defect in this tire batch, or the new variable suspension be accelerating shear wear and foam separation? Has anyone else encountered similar problems with their OEM AT tires?

This has made me super weary of taking road trips again. They've failed on 2 of the 3 road trips so far and I've been lucky to find the only weekend operating service center while the other time was on a weekday near a service center.

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[HaulingAss]

Of course not. Most owners are not having ANY of the problems you mention. I really like these tires as an all-purpose Cybertruck tire. Plenty tough for most uses, comfortable, quiet with great turn-in in the corners and predictable grip and stopping power. Tread life is a little below average but a worthwhile tradeoff for the good performance. They could have better ice traction but that would further impact tread life. Tires are all about compromises to achieve the characteristics that are most important to you.

While it's always possible you got defective tires, it's more likely they were over-heated at some point in their life. This can happen in many ways, under pressure for conditions is the most common.

 

[poop]

Of course not. Most owners are not having ANY of the problems you mention. I really like these tires as an all-purpose Cybertruck tire. Plenty tough for most uses, comfortable, quiet with great turn-in in the corners and predictable grip and stopping power. Tread life is a little below average but a worthwhile tradeoff for the good performance. They could have better ice traction but that would further impact tread life. Tires are all about compromises to achieve the characteristics that are most important to you.

While it's always possible you got defective tires, it's more likely they were over-heated at some point in their life. This can happen in many ways, under pressure for conditions is the most common.

Yeah you're probably right here on heat, I've let PSI dip to 46-47 and GPT said "Over a long run, chronic under-inflation of 10–15% (e.g. 5 psi on a 50 psi tire) can raise carcass temperatures dozens of degrees above normal."

 

[Shadowmite]

Yeah you're probably right here on heat, I've let PSI dip to 46-47 and GPT said "Over a long run, chronic under-inflation of 10–15% (e.g. 5 psi on a 50 psi tire) can raise carcass temperatures dozens of degrees above normal."

Ironically Tesla delivered my brand new Cybertruck to me with the tires at 40psi and insisted they were fine for me to drive home.

 

[earthworm]

no punctures or foam issues, but i did have a slow leak (2-3 psi per week) at the bead. having a tire shop remove and reinstall fixed it. probably started from my offroading.

 

[Ruffles]

No issues for me. I'm at 22k on the original set. I asked Tesla to rotate them at 15k and they said they were fine and didn't need it. I rotated them myself at 20k and they are holding out great. I'll probably buy them again although I'd like to see a picture of the Pirelli all season tires with the cyber wheel covers. If they look OK, I might try them but I hate the way they look with the Core covers.

 

[TeslaKen]

My stock tires have been great and have more than 20K miles on them and seem to be wearing well, much better than the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S's on my Model 3 Performance that seem to wear down half way by the time I drive them home.

 

[sefar]

Tesla oem tires often wear out earlier than expected. My very first MS got about 18k on the first set, the replacements were still going at 40k. Similar issue for my current MS. Something else is going on with your CT, lots of us in the Midwest approaching 20k on the OEM AT tires.

I suspect all carmakers get oem tires with less tread than replacement but the weight and speed of a tesla (don't lie, we all romp them) exacerbates the problem.

 

[Lunars_X]

I've had one tire replaced for foam delamination 2 weeks ago. But the tire wear looks fine so far. But I've less than 7,000 miles on mine.

 

[jeffrey2z]

No problems on beast at 38k miles. Will probs get new tires at end of summer when it’s closer to 50k

 

[henchman24]

All tires are compromise. Look at the factory all terrains as about the lowest tier of all terrains that you can get with ~40% of their tread shaved off. They are not K02s or anything like that sort of tire. Very much an on-road focused AT with a heavy range focus and with the tread depth, you won't get the typical mileage out of them. This is done for a multitude of reasons, but driving characteristics on road and probably most of all, range is impacted. As a typical rule of thumb Tesla runs less tread depth on AT or sticky tires to eek out a big more range on those options. If you put good performance tires on a Plaid/3P, you'll get a decent amount less range. Same with more aggressive ATs... though I think that impact is less in the real world than EPA tests.

Now any foam tire can delaminate from the inside and the rougher roads you drive on, the more opportunity it has to happen. I personally don't like foam for multiple reasons (patching being the top one) and feel the benefit is marginal at best. But automakers aren't going away from the because they do have a NVH benefit.

 

[Vigorous1982]

Of course not. Most owners are not having ANY of the problems you mention. I really like these tires as an all-purpose Cybertruck tire. Plenty tough for most uses, comfortable, quiet with great turn-in in the corners and predictable grip and stopping power. Tread life is a little below average but a worthwhile tradeoff for the good performance. They could have better ice traction but that would further impact tread life. Tires are all about compromises to achieve the characteristics that are most important to you.

While it's always possible you got defective tires, it's more likely they were over-heated at some point in their life. This can happen in many ways, under pressure for conditions is the most common.

I've had my tires replaced at least three times due to foam separation, which caused severe balancing issues. The latest fix was to remove the foam completely, and it has worked for me. I haven't noticed a change in road noise. I recommend doing that if you're having that problem. The tires themselves seem fine to me.

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