Electrical charging port location?

[SparkChaser]

The prototype and all the Betas so far have it on the lefthand side aft of the rear wheel.

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[JRu]

I really wish Tesla would put a charging port on the front and back. I'd pay an extra couple hundred in parts for the convenience of front or back charging, especially at the super charger stations.

 

[Trbizwiz]

I mounted my EVSE to the wall on the drivers side of my Tesla Model Y, and it’s proximal to the garage door. This serves a few functions. It allows quick easy charges of the model Y when parked in the garage. But if I’m doing a project in the garage, I can back up to the garage door, and still charge, while the car is in the driveway. This serves double l, because when the Cybertruck arrives, I can back it up to the garage door, and charge the Y or the CT, with out moving either. My primary reason for this is that we have unlimited off peak charging from our utility, through that charger. So I pay $31/month for that charger, to power my Y. I’ll be able to power the CT, for FREE!!
At most the Y needs an hour or two of charge every other day or so. I could actually keep , up to 3 EVs charged.

 

[cvalue13]

I can back it up to the garage door, and charge the Y or the CT,

i suspect for a lot of folks they should plan on at least sometimes charging the CT backed up to the garage door

 

[CyberGus]

I'll likely end up spending wayyyy to much to have an EVSE pedestal-mounted, so I can just pull into the driveway and plug 'er right in. (Garage parking is out of the question, since that's where I keep all my excess worthless crap.)

 

[CyberGus]

I really wish Tesla would put a charging port on the front and back. I'd pay an extra couple hundred in parts for the convenience of front or back charging, especially at the super charger stations.

I'm skeptical we'd get dual charge ports from Mister "Best Part is No Part" Musk.

 

[JRu]

I'm skeptical we'd get dual charge ports from Mister "Best Part is No Part" Musk.

true. Too bad he can land a unmanned rocket on a platform at sea but can’t figure out charging automation. Unless it’s just a problem in my head. I don’t have a Tesla yet, so don’t know if this is a frustration. I’m just picturing where my CT will go and I think front charging would work so much better

 

[HaulingAss]

Over head wire installation is awesome though. Which was really the point.

Why do you think the overhead cable management arm is awesome. It looks rather unweildy and unnecessary compared to just unplugging the close car and plugging in the car backed into the adjacent stall. I'm a fan of "The best part is no part" unless it's going to make it easier.

 

[Gurule92]

Why do you think the overhead cable management arm is awesome. It looks rather unweildy and unnecessary compared to just unplugging the close car and plugging in the car backed into the adjacent stall. I'm a fan of "The best part is no part" unless it's going to make it easier.

I personally didn't use this arm. But overhead is petter because I have less risk of tripping on it when I'm carrying my kids to the car or when they are walking in the garage.

I've also in the past stopped my car right on the cable (not handle) and couldn't pull my charger to the port.

I rigged up a tool holder thing that pulls my charger nozzle up and I run the cable along the wall and door rails. Pretty sweet

 

[HaulingAss]

I personally didn't use this arm. But overhead is petter because I have less risk of tripping on it when I'm carrying my kids to the car or when they are walking in the garage.

I've also in the past stopped my car right on the cable (not handle) and couldn't pull my charger to the port.

I rigged up a tool holder thing that pulls my charger nozzle up and I run the cable along the wall and door rails. Pretty sweet

We never put the cable in the driving space. In a garage the driving space is generally very well defined by the tight confines. Under the rear bumper keeps it out of the driving/walking space if backing into the garage like the video shows.

But whatever works for you is good. I'm not against overhead cable management arms where it's useful, just that in the application in the video a Tesla Wall Charger in the corner would have solved all the issues he mentioned. Even with the overhead cable management arm a Tesla Wall charger would be a better solution because it wouldn't stick out into the narrow waling space when stowed on the EVSE and it wouldn't need a charging adapter extension or an unweildy J1772 plug which is what they were saying was their real problem (plug sticking out in the walking space).

Most EV's in America have Tesla charge ports and that's not going to change anytime soon. If one of your anti-Tesla friends buys a non-Tesla and needs a charge at your EVSE, he or she will likely already have a Tesla adapter so they can use Tesla Destination chargers on road trips. I have a J1772 adapter for those times when my hotel only has J1772 EVSE's but I rarely need to use it. I prefer to charge without an adapter when feasible and would never buy an EVSE with the wrong charge plug to charge a Tesla. People not thinking clearly like to claim they are "future proofing" themselves but it's simply poor judgement to choose a standard that fits a minority of EV's, both now and as far as the eye can see. The mistake is in thinking non-Tesla EV's will soon be more common than Tesla's. That's not going to happen in America because none of the other American manufacturers can make EV's profitably or cost competitively compared to Tesla and they still have years of low volumes and losing money on every EV they sell. They are compliance cars so they can meet fleet emission standards. It would be corporate suicide to make money losers in high volume.

Meanwhile, Tesla is ramping EV production into the millions.

 

[charliemagpie]

Just run the cable along the ceiling through O rings, and rig a couple of clips.

 

[anionic1]

Really a auto retracting reel is ideal IMO. They are just crazy expensive for that size and capacity of cable.

 

[RandyS]

I really wish Tesla would put a charging port on the front and back. I'd pay an extra couple hundred in parts for the convenience of front or back charging, especially at the super charger stations.

Franz talked about this in a MotorTrend article at the time of the unveiling back in 2019....

"Our suggestion was to have multiple charge ports on the truck, perhaps one at each corner, though it wasn't in the cards. Tesla chief designer Franz von Holzhausen tells us the additional wiring required would add too much weight."

https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-electric-pickup-superchargers/

 

[ldjessee]

Most EV's in America have Tesla charge ports and that's not going to change anytime soon. If one of your anti-Tesla friends buys a non-Tesla and needs a charge at your EVSE, he or she will likely already have a Tesla adapter so they can use Tesla Destination chargers on road trips. I have a J1772 adapter for those times when my hotel only has J1772 EVSE's but I rarely need to use it. I prefer to charge without an adapter when feasible and would never buy an EVSE with the wrong charge plug to charge a Tesla. People not thinking clearly like to claim they are "future proofing" themselves but it's simply poor judgement to choose a standard that fits a minority of EV's, both now and as far as the eye can see. The mistake is in thinking non-Tesla EV's will soon be more common than Tesla's. That's not going to happen in America because none of the other American manufacturers can make EV's profitably or cost competitively compared to Tesla and they still have years of low volumes and losing money on every EV they sell. They are compliance cars so they can meet fleet emission standards. It would be corporate suicide to make money losers in high volume.

Meanwhile, Tesla is ramping EV production into the millions.

And with Ford now joining, this is even more so...
Can I borrow your crystal ball?

 

[HaulingAss]

And with Ford now joining, this is even more so...
Can I borrow your crystal ball?

Haha, that's true, but I didn't need a crystal ball to be able to tell which charging standard was dominant in North America.

For at least three years I've taken issue with the claim that installing a J1772 EVSE in your garage was "future-proofing", because I knew that legacy auto was not prepared to make EVs in high volumes while that was exactly Tesla's business plan. Tesla has been growing chargers and cars with Tesla charge ports faster than legacy auto who has only been giving lip service to EVs to stay on the right side of public opinion and keep regulators off their backs. They were buying more time to keep selling gasoline powered cars at a profit because they are complete newbies at making pure electric cars (and bad at manufacturing, distribution and marketing as well).

The natural result of that dynamic was that there would be more EVs with NACS (Tesla) charge ports than EV's with the more expensive, but inferior, J1772 charge ports, for as far as they eye could see. So why would any Tesla owner want to install the inferior standard (unless they bought legacy auto's lie that "the competition was coming", hook, line and sinker)

With Ford's "defection" to the superior standard, the momentum has turned in a more obvious manner. Why would other automakers let Ford be the only legacy automaker with this important advantage? Less expensive charge ports, easier to use charge plugs and more numerous DC fast chargers (and ones that actually work when you need them).

Any automaker serious about selling EV's in high volume in North America will want to make a deal with Tesla, it's just a matter of how long it takes them to realize how badly they need that. And, any automaker who wants to sell high volumes of any kind of car in North America in 2030 will need high volumes of EVs.

I've been saying for years that the defacto DC fast charging standard in North America is the Tesla (NACS) standard and it would have been in China and Europe also, if the respective governments there didn't mandate an inferior, more expensive, more unwieldy standard first.

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